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Post by mcmahonfan85 on May 28, 2016 1:18:24 GMT -5
Also question that I don't know if anyone has addressed or explained, but why are Jubilee and Angel teenagers/young adults in the 80's? We've seen them in the later timeline around that same age. I know the timeline was changed but how does that affect character's ages? I thought that was confusing. Explained, no. But I'm assuming they're just going with "X3 and the first Wolverine movie don't count because they suck." The Last Stand is still canon and unless i am recalling wrong, Jubilee's name was ever mentioned, and Angel was only referred to as "Angel", never Warren Worthington III, and thus can be considered an entirely separate character
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Post by Big DSR Energy on May 28, 2016 1:53:19 GMT -5
The Last Stand is still canon Is it? The end of Days of Future Past had Cyclops alive despite dying in The Last Stand.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on May 28, 2016 2:01:18 GMT -5
The Last Stand is still canon Is it? The end of Days of Future Past had Cyclops alive despite dying in The Last Stand. its a alternate timeline (like Back to the Future II), but the movie is still canon. without it, the movies would go: X2 - Jean Grey dies by sacrificing herself to everyone else The Wolverine - Wolverine is in exile after killing Jean because...? also, he's surprised to see Professor X alive for some reason
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Post by Some Guy on May 28, 2016 2:58:57 GMT -5
It was alright I guess. Fassbender was great as usual, most of the heroes were fine with maybe JLaw's performance being a bit eh and Oscar Isaac was given absolutely nothing to work with.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on May 28, 2016 3:10:15 GMT -5
I don't think of Jennifer Lawrence as a bad actress or unlikeable. It's just that the last couple Hunger Games were bad movies in general, and she wasn't the right choice for Mystique. When placed Iin the right role, she's pretty good. And she is pretty easy on the eyes. I don't mean to dismiss your opinion, you like who you want to like, but I've always found Lawrence just kinda plain-looking. I'm baffled by people who lose their minds over how attractive they find her. I feel pretty similar about Kristen Stewart, who WILL TOTALLY NOT be playing the role of Squirrel Girl in my movie version of said character. I'm okay with Allison Williams playing Dazzler though.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 28, 2016 3:22:51 GMT -5
Is it? The end of Days of Future Past had Cyclops alive despite dying in The Last Stand. its a alternate timeline (like Back to the Future II), but the movie is still canon. without it, the movies would go: X2 - Jean Grey dies by sacrificing herself to everyone else The Wolverine - Wolverine is in exile after killing Jean because...? also, he's surprised to see Professor X alive for some reason I believe Singer and/or Kinberg have said the "official/primary" timeline is: First Class > DOFP (1973) > Apocalypse > X-Men > X2 (partially) > DOFP (Epilogue) > Wolverine 3 While the "alternate/nullified" timeline is: Origins: Wolverine > X-Men (partially)> X2 (partially) > Last Stand > The Wolverine > DOFP (Sentinel War) Even that isn't perfect, because mutants are kind of a new phenomena in the eyes of the public in the first X-Men, despite being very much in the public spotlight from 1973 onwards. But I believe the idea is that something either Logan or Xavier learned from their older selves in DOFP helped them avoid putting Jean in the position to sacrifice herself, which may or may not get paid off in future movies. In any case... "All these timelines are so confusing."
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 28, 2016 9:26:30 GMT -5
Also question that I don't know if anyone has addressed or explained, but why are Jubilee and Angel teenagers/young adults in the 80's? We've seen them in the later timeline around that same age. I know the timeline was changed but how does that affect character's ages? I thought that was confusing. Explained, no. But I'm assuming they're just going with "X3 and the first Wolverine movie don't count because they suck." See also Gothic Psylocke, the Emma Frost conundrum, and large black man Bolivar Trask.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on May 28, 2016 9:47:41 GMT -5
I feel pretty similar about Kristen Stewart, who WILL TOTALLY NOT be playing the role of Squirrel Girl in my movie version of said character. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
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Post by Hit Girl on May 28, 2016 11:11:59 GMT -5
I don't mean to dismiss your opinion, you like who you want to like, but I've always found Lawrence just kinda plain-looking. I'm baffled by people who lose their minds over how attractive they find her. I feel pretty similar about Kristen Stewart, who WILL TOTALLY NOT be playing the role of Squirrel Girl in my movie version of said character. I'm okay with Allison Williams playing Dazzler though. If Squirrel Girl was written as being jaded and cynical and fully self-aware that her superpower is utterly ridiculous, Kristen Stewart would be perfect for the part. Honestly I think it could totally work.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on May 28, 2016 11:51:30 GMT -5
I feel pretty similar about Kristen Stewart, who WILL TOTALLY NOT be playing the role of Squirrel Girl in my movie version of said character. I'm okay with Allison Williams playing Dazzler though. If Squirrel Girl was written as being jaded and cynical and fully self-aware that her superpower is utterly ridiculous, Kristen Stewart would be perfect for the part. Honestly I think it could totally work. Zack Snyder presents Squirrel Girl
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Post by Hit Girl on May 28, 2016 12:35:18 GMT -5
If Squirrel Girl was written as being jaded and cynical and fully self-aware that her superpower is utterly ridiculous, Kristen Stewart would be perfect for the part. Honestly I think it could totally work. Zack Snyder presents Squirrel Girl Nah The version of Squirrel Girl I have in mind would be more like "Daria" and possess sarcastic humour, which is alien to Zack. This is, after all, a guy who wanted Batman to be raped in prison.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on May 28, 2016 13:58:38 GMT -5
its a alternate timeline (like Back to the Future II), but the movie is still canon. without it, the movies would go: X2 - Jean Grey dies by sacrificing herself to everyone else The Wolverine - Wolverine is in exile after killing Jean because...? also, he's surprised to see Professor X alive for some reason I believe Singer and/or Kinberg have said the "official/primary" timeline is: First Class > DOFP (1973) > Apocalypse > X-Men > X2 (partially) > DOFP (Epilogue) > Wolverine 3 While the "alternate/nullified" timeline is: Origins: Wolverine > X-Men (partially)> X2 (partially) > Last Stand > The Wolverine > DOFP (Sentinel War) Even that isn't perfect, because mutants are kind of a new phenomena in the eyes of the public in the first X-Men, despite being very much in the public spotlight from 1973 onwards. But I believe the idea is that something either Logan or Xavier learned from their older selves in DOFP helped them avoid putting Jean in the position to sacrifice herself, which may or may not get paid off in future movies. In any case... "All these timelines are so confusing."there is a difference between canon and timeline. canon is an official part of a overall series, where as timeline normal is just the chronological order in which they happen, and when dealing with time travel it is the chronological order of few specific events (related to whichever timeline it is). in Star Trek, Wrath of Khan isn't negated and removed from canon because Star Trek Into Darkness did it differently in the new timeline. as for Singer and Kinberg, here is an interview they gave with Collider about the timeline in X-Men. in short, they are in a new timeline and certain things are going to happen because they are unavoidable and always going to happen (like Khan in Star Trek), but that does not mean they end up the same and the original trilogy are not necessarily how the events will go. here is a chart some guy made basically explaining the X-Men timelines like Doc Brown in Back to the Future II (though for some reason he put in extra crap like Daredevil and the Fantastic Four) {Spoiler} but to go back to the original point, X-Men 3 is still canon. it has to exist in order for other parts to make sense. X-Men Origins: Wolverine has been removed from canon (the filmmakers act like it doesn't exist and you can skip over it an not miss of thing) but The Last Stand, though corrected, is still part of the story.
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Post by Grennel on May 28, 2016 14:57:11 GMT -5
I felt bad for fans of Angel, he got jobbed like a mofo.
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Post by andrew8798 on May 28, 2016 16:44:10 GMT -5
Right now looking at 80 million for the weekend
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 16:44:41 GMT -5
Saw this last night, really like it
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Post by Big DSR Energy on May 28, 2016 19:05:50 GMT -5
Saw this last night, really like it Yeah, same. I had a lot of fun. I somehow failed to mention that in my earlier posts.
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Post by andrew8798 on May 28, 2016 20:23:53 GMT -5
Singer said don't expect a DC this time around
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on May 28, 2016 21:05:18 GMT -5
Just saw it. It wasn't as bad as some of the headlines suggest. Offhand X3 and Origins are still way worse than this. I liked this better than The Wolverine too.
I dunno, it was solid?
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Post by Some Guy on May 28, 2016 21:42:05 GMT -5
Just saw it. It wasn't as bad as some of the headlines suggest. Offhand X3 and Origins are still way worse than this. I liked this better than The Wolverine too. I dunno, it was solid? The headlines weren't saying it was bad, they were just saying it was mediocre because they didn't seem to have a consistent narrative focus, which isn't wrong.
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Post by andrew8798 on May 28, 2016 21:43:36 GMT -5
Some were saying it was worse then X-3
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