Bub (BLM)
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 20, 2014 13:22:48 GMT -5
We may see the return of an Aggressive Competitor to the title scene
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mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Apr 20, 2014 13:24:22 GMT -5
I do not care how many pops they're getting you cannot call the Wyatts faces with their characters What seems like a heel character on paper can be viewed differently in practice. Especially when you have a writing team who live in a delusional echo chamber. a man who declares himself a demon and his cult.
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Sephiroth
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Post by Sephiroth on Apr 20, 2014 13:28:18 GMT -5
Or they could finally make it official and turn Cena heel. You can even have him pull a Douchetista and tell Bryan "Thats my title you've got, and I'll be needing it back!"
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 20, 2014 13:30:46 GMT -5
What seems like a heel character on paper can be viewed differently in practice. Especially when you have a writing team who live in a delusional echo chamber. a man who declares himself a demon and his cult. Yet causes no real long term damage, and comes across as holding legitimate arguments of criticism against the supposed standard bearer of the company. Undertaker and Kane have also at various times cloaked themselves in demonic, satanic and hellish imagery, but have still been considered faces.
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mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Apr 20, 2014 13:33:18 GMT -5
a man who declares himself a demon and his cult. Yet causes no real long term damage, and comes across as holding legitimate arguments of criticism against the supposed standard bearer of the company. Undertaker and Kane have also at various times cloaked themselves in demonic, satanic and hellish imagery, but have still been considered faces. they've also rejected it to turn face. Undertaker didn't simply change nothing and start wrestling heels, he saved Elizabeth and set himself against Jake Roberts. overall, nothing in wrestling is longterm
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 20, 2014 13:38:52 GMT -5
Yet causes no real long term damage, and comes across as holding legitimate arguments of criticism against the supposed standard bearer of the company. Undertaker and Kane have also at various times cloaked themselves in demonic, satanic and hellish imagery, but have still been considered faces. they've also rejected it to turn face. Undertaker didn't simply change nothing and start wrestling heels, he saved Elizabeth and set himself against Jake Roberts. overall, nothing in wrestling is longterm Not trying to be mean here, but do you two guys ever discuss different topics aside from that one?
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 20, 2014 13:39:21 GMT -5
Yet causes no real long term damage, and comes across as holding legitimate arguments of criticism against the supposed standard bearer of the company. Undertaker and Kane have also at various times cloaked themselves in demonic, satanic and hellish imagery, but have still been considered faces. they've also rejected it to turn face. Undertaker didn't simply change nothing and start wrestling heels, he saved Elizabeth and set himself against Jake Roberts. overall, nothing in wrestling is longterm Undertaker's protection of Elizabeth has never been logically explained. Nor has his random turn against Jake.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Apr 20, 2014 13:39:56 GMT -5
I do not care how many pops they're getting you cannot call the Wyatts faces with their characters "The Wyatts are faces" is 2014's answer to late 2012's "Punk is a face". If this board existed in late 1996, we'd have a "The nWo are faces" thread every week.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 20, 2014 13:41:06 GMT -5
they've also rejected it to turn face. Undertaker didn't simply change nothing and start wrestling heels, he saved Elizabeth and set himself against Jake Roberts. overall, nothing in wrestling is longterm Not trying to be mean here, but do you two guys ever discuss different topics aside from that one? I don't think I've discussed Elizabeth and the Undertaker before.
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Chip
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Post by Chip on Apr 20, 2014 13:41:38 GMT -5
I'm really really hoping that once he's done with Kane he get's to lock up with Cesaro again. Their match before SummerSlam on RAW was goddamn amazing. a man who declares himself a demon and his cult. He pretty much confirmed that he's Samael last RAW with his "I am the seducer, the destroyer and the accuser" line, which implies that Bray is both Good and Evil, an Angel of death but still a servant to a higher power of Good. The idea that he's straight up evil is invalid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 14:13:58 GMT -5
HHH, Batista, Orton, Brock Lesnar, Bray Wyatt, Cesaro, Bo Dallas, Sheamus (who turns heel and brings up the past and is a dick about it). There are tons of competitors for a long long time. There's a difference between being a heel and being a heel over enough to fued with the champion. NoBOdy is going to buy Bo Dallas going for the title right now, HHH, Batista and Orton are all already oocupied Cesaro is being positioned at the IC title level for now, Sheamus turning heel is a good idea though, he is doing nothing as a face and fits in with what the fans want to boo nowadays. I sort of see Cesaro vs. Bryan as Punk vs. Bryan of 2012. Bo Dallas I mentioned because that would be funny as hell and the heat Bo would get will be bigger then Vickie's heat
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Post by gangstalicious on Apr 20, 2014 14:26:56 GMT -5
Kane, HHH, Orton, Batista, Cesaro, Sheamus, Bray Wyatt, Cena and Lesnar. Bryan will be fine.
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Post by kidglov3s on Apr 20, 2014 15:17:49 GMT -5
I think Wyatts are your classic heels that make good points but toward malicious self serving ends. I actually really liked the way they set up the segment on Monday, where it's like The Wyatts are right about Cena being phony and lame (which is how I believe we're intended to read it, and I think Cena was deliberately lamer than usual to convey that The Wyatts are getting to him) but they're also yknow evil.
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Professor Chaos
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Post by Professor Chaos on Apr 20, 2014 18:01:15 GMT -5
Bertie could win the title then Sheamus come out and say "Hey Bertie pull my finger", Brogue kick, 1-2-3 and the two proceed to feud for 6 months while Bryan doesn't get a rematch and feuds with Yoshi Tatsu.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 20, 2014 18:02:58 GMT -5
Bertie could win the title then Sheamus come out and say "Hey Bertie pull my finger", Brogue kick, 1-2-3 and the two proceed to feud for 6 months while Bryan doesn't get a rematch and feuds with Yoshi Tatsu. I don't want Bryan to get buried but I want Yoshi to be elevated.
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klapaucius
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Post by klapaucius on Apr 20, 2014 18:03:08 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 20, 2014 18:20:45 GMT -5
Extreme Rules: Kane (hate it but whatever) Payback: Orton or Batista or whatever Money in the Bank: Bray Wyatt Battleground: vs Reigns vs Rollins vs Ambrose (Authority trying to f*** with both at the same time) Summerslam: Cena or Brock
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repomark
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Post by repomark on Apr 20, 2014 18:25:50 GMT -5
There are a lot of options from here, most have been covered.
1. Bray Wyatt - this is the obvious choice for a huge title feud. Given Wyatt beat Bryan at the Royal Rumble clean he could already logically claim to be number one contender, and given how good that match was I would happily see this main event Summerslam.
2. John Cena - maybe not as a heel but I think a rematch for the title would be an excellent storyline. You could have Cena play up the injury at last years Summerslam being the only reason Bryan won, or have Bryan say he wants Cena at one hundred per cent so this time there can be no excuses. Or just flat out make it about Cena wanting his belt back/revenge for last year's loss as has been mentioned.
3. Bryan v Evolution - any of Triple H, Batista or Randy Orton could slot in as a ppv one on one opponent for Bryan, once the Shield feud concludes or even as part of it.
4. Cesaro - now he is a Heyman guy and won the Andre Battle Royal, he is a big deal. This is not like Curtis Axel being a Heyman guy and. I think a big push will come of it. A match with Bryan makes a lot of sense and would be outstanding.
5. Brock Lesnar - part time maybe, but he has mentioned wanting the belt in previous storylines and now he has ended the streak has the most legitimate claim of anyone to being number one contender. Another very possible Summerslam or Mania 31 main event.
6. CM Punk - should he come back, I think Punk heeling up and going after Bryan would be very compelling. Punk could come out and say the only reason Bryan main evented mania and won the title was because Punk walked out.
7. The Undertaker - you could you have the Taker go on a quest for the title to quash the pain of the streak ending, or even turn psychotic as a result of the loss.
8. The Shield - if the break up happens, whichever turns heel could be an opponent for Bryan.
9. Sheamus - turning him heel and having him brag about how he defeated Bryan in eighteen seconds seems extremely logical and a likely outcome.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Apr 20, 2014 18:40:55 GMT -5
I think Wyatts are your classic heels that make good points but toward malicious self serving ends. I actually really liked the way they set up the segment on Monday, where it's like The Wyatts are right about Cena being phony and lame (which is how I believe we're intended to read it, and I think Cena was deliberately lamer than usual to convey that The Wyatts are getting to him) but they're also yknow evil. The Cena/Wyatt's feud is an example of people choosing the lesser of two Evils.
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Post by Kitty Shamrocks on Apr 20, 2014 18:50:28 GMT -5
9. Sheamus - turning him heel and having him brag about how he defeated Bryan in eighteen seconds seems extremely logical and a likely outcome. Yeah, it seems kind of obvious, but I'd really like to see this. The matches would be amazing.
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