Seth Drakin of Monster Crap
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on May 20, 2014 22:19:59 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}10. The Outsiders (WCW) 9. Mankind 8. Rey Mysterio (WWE) 7. Santino Marella 6. Brock Lesnar 5. Kane 4. Rocky Mavia 3. Chris Jericho (WWE) 2. The Undertaker 1. John Cena The order of this list is BS. After my upcoming Monster Crap induction.....I think another FAN Countdown is in order.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 20, 2014 22:33:57 GMT -5
That's the thing about debuts... Many are just kind of underwhelming on their face because often it's just "Here's a match that they win". The only ones on that list that would really be considered iconic to me are The Outsiders in WCW, Lesnar, Kane, Jericho and MAYBE Undertaker.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 20, 2014 22:42:09 GMT -5
The undertakers debut wasn't really anything either ... Dibiase hyped a mystery team member... Taker came out did his zombie stuff and got counted out I would have put Cena's on the list him coming out and challenging Kurt Angle to a match was pretty memorable but it certainly wouldn't have been number one... especially not on a list with something like the Outsiders invade WCW
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 20, 2014 22:43:10 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thought Mysterio's debut was complete shit? His match with Chavo was average at best and lost the crowd half way through. All it showed was that he had lost a step since his early years at WCW. Sure, he jumped off a cell later in the night, but that in no way makes up for it and he should not be anywhere near this list.
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Post by Brother-RD on May 20, 2014 22:47:46 GMT -5
What do MNM, Jerry Lynn, Gail Kim, and Carlito need to do to get on this list? Win a title in their debut?
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Post by Instant Classic on May 20, 2014 22:48:50 GMT -5
I was surprised Jericho wasn't #1.
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Post by Ron Woodsman aka Shempaholic on May 20, 2014 23:13:07 GMT -5
I was surprised Jericho wasn't #1. He should have been. Cena and Rocky shouldn't have made the list. In each case my reaction was "This guy sucks and is going nowhere." Obviously I was wrong but when I think of great debuts they shouldn't leave you with that feeling.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on May 20, 2014 23:23:18 GMT -5
All I have to say is the best debut was #5 so this list is complete bullshit
I mean I didn't expect Kane to be #1, but it should have been AT LEAST top 3, if not top 2 on the list
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2014 23:40:23 GMT -5
Also, what was the cutoff date for this episode? Why I ask is because there was an injustice missing from this countdown.
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TheDieselTrain
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Post by TheDieselTrain on May 20, 2014 23:53:13 GMT -5
More of the same typical oh he's the greatest human being to ever walk the face of the earth BS #1 most memorable debut not even close. No i'm not even mad at Kane not being higher or not being #1 because I knew it wouldnt happen. Dolph Ziggler at least had a better debut in his match against Batista. I still remember that. Alberto Del Rio made me a fan in his first match. GTFO!!!!!!
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 21, 2014 0:53:38 GMT -5
No Shockmaster?
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Post by mattperiolat on May 21, 2014 2:34:53 GMT -5
Jericho should have been number one, no question. It is still talked about and still remembered absolutely as a defining wrestling moment. Taker... man, that's a tough one because I love him so much that I'm biased. Maybe top three or five. Cena? Great match, big moment for the rookie... top ten.
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Post by cabbageboy on May 21, 2014 8:53:43 GMT -5
Jericho's is overrated. His spiel with The Rock went nowhere, led to nothing, and The Rock largely chewed him up and spit him out on the mic. The weird thing is that The Outsiders didn't debut at once. Hall showed up one week, then Nash showed up about 2 weeks later. Hall's however should be higher on the list, even though technically he had been in WCW before and it wasn't really a debut.
Given the RVD bashing in the WWE forum I feel the need to mention his awesome debut with Tommy Dreamer during the Invasion. But then both guys had actually been on Raw before in 1997 during the goofy ECW pseudo invasion, so I'm not sure that one counts.
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Post by Jiren on May 21, 2014 9:14:08 GMT -5
I thought
Test - Comes out of nowhere and pump handle slams HHH Big Show - OK he dun goofed but him bursting from under the ring was pretty badass Cactus Jack (WWF) - A tricky one as Foley was already Mankind & Dude Love at this point, But his appearence as Cactus Jack was awesome
Were pretty cool
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Post by madness50 on May 21, 2014 14:31:50 GMT -5
Santino's debut being three spots ahead of the Outsiders is complete bullshit.
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Seth Drakin of Monster Crap
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on May 21, 2014 14:58:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I've decided against doing a FAWA Countdown for this because well, too many rules would truly sidejack this to complete confusion.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 21, 2014 15:26:28 GMT -5
I hope that incredibly shitty list causes their stock to drop even further
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 15:42:07 GMT -5
I take these meaningless lists very seriously too!
....Jericho and the Outsiders should have been 1 and 2 though.
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Post by Professor Chaos on May 21, 2014 16:16:07 GMT -5
Big Show and Taz should've made it for their WWE debuts. I'd include DDP too. Cena number 1 is just stupid. He shouldn't have been in the top 10 to allow all the kids to vote for that just cause it's him.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on May 21, 2014 18:32:13 GMT -5
Big Show and Taz should've made it for their WWE debuts. I'd include DDP too. Cena number 1 is just stupid. He shouldn't have been in the top 10 to allow all the kids to vote for that just cause it's him. The funniest part is those kids weren't even alive for his debut.
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