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Post by Cyno on Jul 12, 2014 20:01:29 GMT -5
How many years did CP3 have on his contract when Stern rejected his trade to the Lakers for "basketball reasons"?
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Post by andrew8798 on Jul 12, 2014 20:10:15 GMT -5
One year
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jul 12, 2014 20:27:54 GMT -5
Silver can't be out here vetoing trades. He's gonna (re)-open a big ole can of worms he doesn't want a part of Especially since he got rid of a can of worms in Donald Sterling.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jul 12, 2014 20:34:55 GMT -5
The Heat are pursuing unrestricted free agent Luol Deng on a contract at around $10 million per season.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jul 12, 2014 21:25:29 GMT -5
I like the Gasol signing.
That's all I have to contribute at this point haha.
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Post by Sicho100 on Jul 12, 2014 22:26:10 GMT -5
@mikecairns5 Cavs working three team deal w/ Warriors/TWolves. Warriors get multiple 1st rnd picks. Wolves get Klay and Tristan Thompson. Love to Cavs Wasn't the thing holding up the Love-to-Warriors deal that the Warriors weren't willing to give up Klay? Now they'll trade him without even getting Love back?
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Post by thetower52 on Jul 12, 2014 23:03:10 GMT -5
@realgm: Strange image. RT @espnsteinline: Paul Pierce is on the verge of joining the Washington Wizards in a free-agent deal, ESPN has learned
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Post by GreyScaleLJH on Jul 12, 2014 23:14:02 GMT -5
Paul Pierce to the Wizards is rather odd. Does give them an interesting starting 5: Wall, Beal, Pierce, Nene and Gortat.
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Post by Renslayer on Jul 12, 2014 23:25:14 GMT -5
That KG-Pierce-Terry trade from the Nets perspective is looking...
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 12, 2014 23:34:13 GMT -5
@realgm: Strange image. RT @espnsteinline: Paul Pierce is on the verge of joining the Washington Wizards in a free-agent deal, ESPN has learned This came out of nowhere. Maybe it's a sign and trade, so he can go to the Clippers and be reunited with Doc.
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Post by thetower52 on Jul 12, 2014 23:52:35 GMT -5
@realgm: Strange image. RT @espnsteinline: Paul Pierce is on the verge of joining the Washington Wizards in a free-agent deal, ESPN has learned This came out of nowhere. Maybe it's a sign and trade, so he can go to the Clippers and be reunited with Doc. Sign and trade can only be done by the team he last played for He has to wait I think 60 days before he can be traded now
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jul 13, 2014 0:01:42 GMT -5
How many years did CP3 have on his contract when Stern rejected his trade to the Lakers for "basketball reasons"? The basketball reasons were that the other 29 owners Co-Owned the Hornest at the time and most of them probably told Stern this trade is not best for business you need to veto it. You saw Gilberts reaction and he was part Owner of the Hornets at the time of course it would eventually be overturned.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 13, 2014 0:06:11 GMT -5
That KG-Pierce-Terry trade from the Nets perspective is looking... I hated that trade from the getgo for the Nets. They destroyed their future (and lost $90 million to the luxury tax) in order to "win now," and maybe if Paul Pierce and KG were in their primes and Doc Rivers was coming along with them they might've had a chance at that. But Pierce and KG are in the latter parts of their careers and it's not like the 2012-13 Celtics were any real threat to the powers of the East at the time, though they did give the Knicks a scare for a couple of games and part of a third. Billy King is a horrid GM and it's why I almost can't blame Jason Kidd for trying to run him out of the organization. Keyword: almost. How many years did CP3 have on his contract when Stern rejected his trade to the Lakers for "basketball reasons"? The basketball reasons were that the other 29 owners Co-Owned the Hornest at the time and most of them probably told Stern this trade is not best for business you need to veto it. You saw Gilberts reaction and he was part Owner of the Hornets at the time of course it would eventually be overturned. Ah, right. I forgot the NBA technically owned Nawlins at the time.
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Post by suave on Jul 13, 2014 0:55:29 GMT -5
So, the Nets gave up (essentially):
Damian Lillard (or the pick that got him)
Derrick Favors
Devin Harris
Enes Kanter
James Young (I think)
Kris Humphries
A lot of other picks that went to Boston, among other places
The Nets gained:
An aging KG
An injured Deron Williams
Joe Johnson's enormous contract
A year of Paul Pierce
2 years of Gerald Wallace
90 million in luxury tax
A year of Jason Kidd as head coach
Andrei Kirilenko
A year of Shaun Livingston
Great job, Billy King!
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Post by Viva on Jul 13, 2014 2:57:24 GMT -5
There are a few reasons why I believe this is categorically false, and I'll go through them here. 1) They have not lost Chandler Parsons to a rival. The rival has simply signed them to an offer sheet, which they have the opportunity to match. Every indication at this point, is that they will. With that being said, there is fire in a camp that believes that Morey should have simply used the club option on Parsons, effectively having him for 1-2mil this year as opposed to the 14-15 he's going to get now, but I don't think anybody realized how full retard teams were going to be whilst signing wings this offseason. 2) Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin were not excellent contracts, however, they aren't terrible. After all, Morey was able to successfully able to flip both this offseason for the most precious thing in all of the NBA landscape: cap room. The reason why a people respect Morey is because he has some moxy. He takes chances. I don't believe anyone thinks he's a perfect GM, or a prodigy. Just very good at his job. 3)Daryl Morey consistently has his team in the hunt to get, not marginally better, but considerably better. They are in the hunt for nearly every big name free agent, this year, Bosh is the example. They struck out on Bosh, but he would have been an excellent fit for their team, and had Bosh wanted to go for Championships over money, Houston would have been an incredible choice. Now, after losing out on Bosh, they are left with cap room, which is really just flexibility. They shifted stuff around and made room for Bosh, he spurned them, and now they move on. So essentially, the only questionable thing he's really done is sign Jeremy Lin. He's terrible and one-dimensional, but by all means a serviceable point guard. Just not at 10m a year guy. Asik is a quality big. You sign those regardless, and then you STILL try to go get a guy like Dwight Howard if you can swing it. I think even you'd agree with that. Other than that, he's been a victim of things that are relatively out of his hands. Morey turned Goran Dragic and Kyle Lowery into Jeremy Lin. He has been touted for his use of analytics for awhile, but I REALLY don't get it. Now he is bringing back Ariza on a 4 year $32 million contract after they already jettisoned him a year after he had signed a 5 year $34 million WITH THE ROCKETS in 2009. At least he appeared to have potential then. The supposed cornerstones of the team he has built are two mental midgets in James Harden (don't forget how abysmal he was in his only NBA Finals trip) and Dwight Howard (no explanation needed). Even if his teams overperform in the regular season, they are not a real title contenders. First of all, Linsanity. Now, I won't disagree with you that Harden and Howard are not champions. I am a Warriors fan. I hate the Rockets. I don't think they are better than the Warriors. I still believe that by and large, Morey is a top 10 GM. He is continually making moves to get his team better. He took a bath this year in free agency, without question, and his team does lack resolve, but it's still competitive. And he tries to make it better every year.
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Post by Viva on Jul 13, 2014 2:58:39 GMT -5
@mikecairns5 Cavs working three team deal w/ Warriors/TWolves. Warriors get multiple 1st rnd picks. Wolves get Klay and Tristan Thompson. Love to Cavs Wasn't the thing holding up the Love-to-Warriors deal that the Warriors weren't willing to give up Klay? Now they'll trade him without even getting Love back? This tweet is bullshit, and he was immediately slaughtered for it. WE want love. We would not help the Cavs get Love, under any circumstances. Immediately refuted.
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Post by Batman on Jul 13, 2014 6:21:19 GMT -5
Morey turned Goran Dragic and Kyle Lowery into Jeremy Lin. He has been touted for his use of analytics for awhile, but I REALLY don't get it. Now he is bringing back Ariza on a 4 year $32 million contract after they already jettisoned him a year after he had signed a 5 year $34 million WITH THE ROCKETS in 2009. At least he appeared to have potential then. The supposed cornerstones of the team he has built are two mental midgets in James Harden (don't forget how abysmal he was in his only NBA Finals trip) and Dwight Howard (no explanation needed). Even if his teams overperform in the regular season, they are not a real title contenders. First of all, Linsanity. Now, I won't disagree with you that Harden and Howard are not champions. I am a Warriors fan. I hate the Rockets. I don't think they are better than the Warriors. I still believe that by and large, Morey is a top 10 GM. He is continually making moves to get his team better. He took a bath this year in free agency, without question, and his team does lack resolve, but it's still competitive. And he tries to make it better every year. I'd agree that Morey is a top 10 GM, but let's be real: that isn't saying much amongst the jokers that make up the NBA's GM class. It also isn't enough to contend for a title. The NBA title doesn't make too many strange trips. It's two year sojourn to Houston was due to Olajuwon and Olajuwon alone. The Rockets just aren't in that title winning tier that the Spurs, Lakers, Celtics, and probably now the Cavs make up.
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Post by BRV on Jul 13, 2014 10:04:42 GMT -5
That KG-Pierce-Terry trade from the Nets perspective is looking... Those unprotected draft picks that the Nets dealt to the Celtics are looking like found money for Boston. Because unless things turn around almost immediately, it's very likely that each of those picks could be lottery selections. Boston owns Brooklyn's completely unprotected first-round picks in 2016 and 2018, as well as the right to swap picks in 2017. That's three straight years in which Boston, regardless of their own situation, could have top-10 picks. As much as it broke my heart to see Paul Pierce in a Nets uniform, as as unseemly as it feels to even think about him roaming the court in those garish Wizards uniforms, that was a deal that Danny Ainge had to make. No other team was willing to part with up to four unprotected first-round picks in exchange for three aging veterans who were taking up massive swaths of cap space and were clearly on the back nine of their careers. Had Ainge rejected it, he would have been rightly excoriated.
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Post by rocket on Jul 13, 2014 11:30:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 12:02:08 GMT -5
About time he made a decision. Now they just need other talent so they can actually make the playoffs this time.
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