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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 12, 2014 14:17:19 GMT -5
The big question is how Slater himself has avoided being released thus far. I fail to see what he has going for him that McIntyre and Mahal didn't. Truth be told I never understood Mahal being in this gimmick. An Indian guy wearing a turban made zero sense in such a lame, cheesy gimmick that begged and pleaded to have the three whitest guys ever doing it. Why didn't they just put Hawkins in this group?
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jun 12, 2014 14:18:18 GMT -5
If you believe WWE will fire Orton or Cena before Yoshi or Hawkins, RVD will be wanting some of what you're smoking. No one's saying fire Orton or Cena, but there are lots of guys higher up the totem pole who could stand to be cleared out. WWE still see some value in those people whether we see it or not. Firing Big Show or Del Rio wouldn't save any of the people who got released today jobs. WWE is going to fire who they want to fire.
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Post by Facetious on Jun 12, 2014 14:19:05 GMT -5
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Post by PKO on Jun 12, 2014 14:19:09 GMT -5
I bet they did this because of the belief that they were going to let contracts run out and not do big mass firings. Like someone read that and said, "Oh yeah?!"
Good luck to all those released, and thanks for the sacrifices made to entertain people world wide.
Drew & Jinder- odd that they'd get rid of two guys who are in a successful midcard act that they use regularly on TV. Drew gets added to the list of wasted potential (under the smaller category of "pushed before he was ready, became talented once they'd given up on him"). He had a fairly long run though. Jinder...not a big loss in my eyes.
Aksana- about time really. She briefly showed potential in FCW, but the vamp gimmick was wrong for her. Comedy foreigner actually worked for her (The Aksana Show). Bad wrestler. Still, shame it's her and not Rosa who is even worse (how coincidental she got the Total Divas gig just before a mass firing...)
Curt Hawkins- I expected his contract to run out anyway. He'd already made outside plans with his wrestling school (wise man). Good luck to him.
Theodore Long- again, I was waiting for his contract to run out. Hasn't done anything in ages. Never a big fan of his, but he worked as a heel manager years ago so it's a shame he never got another chance at that (remember his teased heel run last time he was on TV?)
Camacho- maybe he'll be back down the line. Never really got a chance
Brodus Clay- they found a gimmick that played to his strengths and hid his weaknesses. The Funkasaurous gimmick worked, I have no idea why they deserted it if they had no plans for him. He wasn't a great wrestler but he had a place on the roster.
Evan Bourne- I think the writing was on all the wall with him. He'll do well elsewhere.
Yoshi Tatsu- surprised he's lasted this long. I liked his theme music and his NXT redemption face paint.
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Post by Totorob101 on Jun 12, 2014 14:19:37 GMT -5
At times like this, i hate WWE. Oh well, more free time on raw for Triple H and Randy orton to ramble on, for big show to turn heel and face millions more times, John Cena to over come the odds ect ect. Cant have the midcard getting over can we? Ridiculous.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 12, 2014 14:20:35 GMT -5
Heath is down two partners. Ambrose and Reigns are down one partner. Not saying, but just saying... Sierra Hotel India Echo Lima Delta BAYBEH! We're a Shield man band?
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Post by chazraps on Jun 12, 2014 14:21:18 GMT -5
The big question is how Slater himself has avoided being released thus far. I fail to see what he has going for him that McIntyre and Mahal didn't. Truth be told I never understood Mahal being in this gimmick. An Indian guy wearing a turban made zero sense in such a lame, cheesy gimmick that begged and pleaded to have the three whitest guys ever doing it. Why didn't they just put Hawkins in this group?
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jun 12, 2014 14:21:27 GMT -5
Believe that's corporate America logic. If you believe WWE will fire Orton or Cena before Yoshi or Hawkins, RVD will be wanting some of what you're smoking. Cena? No. But what else can Orton do for the company? What else is there with him to accomplish? Do you honestly think he'll be able to be a bigger star than he is now? And it's not like he'll be a shot in the arm for TNA if he were let go, so why not? Hell, Jeff Hardy at his hottest as a main event talent barely moved the needle for TNA, and now he's not even Jeff Hardy over there anymore. Orton has a family, he's likely made a decent nest egg being a top guy for plenty of years, he's still relatively healthy. There's more upside for everyone when it comes to saving money by letting Orton go than not. People I'd have released: Orton; Batista (age, potential injury, and outside wrestling commitments make him more costly than he's worth); Brock Lesnar (because WWE, in a WWE Network era, isn't getting their dollar's worth with him); Kane (again, what else can you do with his gimmick? and I say this as a Kane fan); the Big Show (see Kane and Batista); Mark Henry (see Batista); and maybe Alberto Del Rio (who has openly said that he's thinking about retirement soon). There's likely more money being paid out to talent at the top of the card than at the bottom of the card. And many of those guys at the top have already had two, three, four, seven runs at the top. How much more dollar value can you squeeze out of a Kane vs. Big Show main event? I'm not saying Curt Hawkins or Yoshi Tatsu are the next Hulk Hogan and Stone Cold Steve Austin, but they never really had the chance to have a run at all.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jun 12, 2014 14:23:13 GMT -5
If you believe WWE will fire Orton or Cena before Yoshi or Hawkins, RVD will be wanting some of what you're smoking. Cena? No. But what else can Orton do for the company? What else is there with him to accomplish? Do you honestly think he'll be able to be a bigger star than he is now? And it's not like he'll be a shot in the arm for TNA if he were let go, so why not? Hell, Jeff Hardy at his hottest as a main event talent barely moved the needle for TNA, and now he's not even Jeff Hardy over there anymore. Orton has a family, he's likely made a decent nest egg being a top guy for plenty of years, he's still relatively healthy. There's more upside for everyone when it comes to saving money by letting Orton go than not. People I'd have released: Orton; Batista (age, potential injury, and outside wrestling commitments make him more costly than he's worth); Brock Lesnar (because WWE, in a WWE Network era, isn't getting their dollar's worth with him); Kane (again, what else can you do with his gimmick? and I say this as a Kane fan); the Big Show (see Kane and Batista); Mark Henry (see Batista); and maybe Alberto Del Rio (who has openly said that he's thinking about retirement soon). There's likely more money being paid out to talent at the top of the card than at the bottom of the card. And many of those guys at the top have already had two, three, four, seven runs at the top. How much more dollar value can you squeeze out of a Kane vs. Big Show main event? I'm not saying Curt Hawkins or Yoshi Tatsu are the next Hulk Hogan and Stone Cold Steve Austin, but they never really had the chance to have a run at all. You are absolutely insane
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Post by Social Housecat on Jun 12, 2014 14:23:22 GMT -5
Annnnnnnnnd now I care even less about WWE. That may sound ridiculous, but 3MB was one of the very, very few things that I looked forward to watching on WWE programming. Ridiculous or not, you are not alone. You and me both. I feel that exact same way. Yeah, they were goofy...BUT DAMMIT THEY WERE FUN! I feel like this too...Their WWE app videos alone were priceless. I'm just sad now. They were one of the few things that genuinely made me laugh on WWE. They made the best of whatever junk creative gave them.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jun 12, 2014 14:23:40 GMT -5
Aksana- about time really. She briefly showed potential in FCW, but the vamp gimmick was wrong for her. Comedy foreigner actually worked for her (The Aksana Show). Bad wrestler. Still, shame it's her and not Rosa who is even worse (how coincidental she got the Total Divas gig just before a mass firing...) Are you suggesting that Michael Hayes had something to do with her not being fired? Because Rosa's a lovely, talented female with MaBWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA! Yeah, couldn't finish that with a straight face.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jun 12, 2014 14:23:59 GMT -5
If you believe WWE will fire Orton or Cena before Yoshi or Hawkins, RVD will be wanting some of what you're smoking. Cena? No. But what else can Orton do for the company? What else is there with him to accomplish? Do you honestly think he'll be able to be a bigger star than he is now? And it's not like he'll be a shot in the arm for TNA if he were let go, so why not? Hell, Jeff Hardy at his hottest as a main event talent barely moved the needle for TNA, and now he's not even Jeff Hardy over there anymore. Orton has a family, he's likely made a decent nest egg being a top guy for plenty of years, he's still relatively healthy. There's more upside for everyone when it comes to saving money by letting Orton go than not. People I'd have released: Orton; Batista (age, potential injury, and outside wrestling commitments make him more costly than he's worth); Brock Lesnar (because WWE, in a WWE Network era, isn't getting their dollar's worth with him); Kane (again, what else can you do with his gimmick? and I say this as a Kane fan); the Big Show (see Kane and Batista); Mark Henry (see Batista); and maybe Alberto Del Rio (who has openly said that he's thinking about retirement soon). There's likely more money being paid out to talent at the top of the card than at the bottom of the card. And many of those guys at the top have already had two, three, four, seven runs at the top. How much more dollar value can you squeeze out of a Kane vs. Big Show main event? I'm not saying Curt Hawkins or Yoshi Tatsu are the next Hulk Hogan and Stone Cold Steve Austin, but they never really had the chance to have a run at all. Also, you can make the argument that those guys "bring in more money", but guys like Hawkins and Yoshi were never given that chance to bring in money. They can't sell merchandise if you don't actually make merchandise for them.
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Post by Totorob101 on Jun 12, 2014 14:25:05 GMT -5
Saddended by all these releases. Young talent really do not stand much of a chance with the company. Orton and Cena and Triple H and Big Show will continue to main event for years to come and we will continue to see guys with bright futures and talent get wasted before probably being let go.
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Post by bluemeii on Jun 12, 2014 14:25:42 GMT -5
If you believe WWE will fire Orton or Cena before Yoshi or Hawkins, RVD will be wanting some of what you're smoking. Cena? No. But what else can Orton do for the company? What else is there with him to accomplish? Do you honestly think he'll be able to be a bigger star than he is now? And it's not like he'll be a shot in the arm for TNA if he were let go, so why not? Hell, Jeff Hardy at his hottest as a main event talent barely moved the needle for TNA, and now he's not even Jeff Hardy over there anymore. Orton has a family, he's likely made a decent nest egg being a top guy for plenty of years, he's still relatively healthy. There's more upside for everyone when it comes to saving money by letting Orton go than not. People I'd have released: Orton; Batista (age, potential injury, and outside wrestling commitments make him more costly than he's worth); Brock Lesnar (because WWE, in a WWE Network era, isn't getting their dollar's worth with him); Kane (again, what else can you do with his gimmick? and I say this as a Kane fan); the Big Show (see Kane and Batista); Mark Henry (see Batista); and maybe Alberto Del Rio (who has openly said that he's thinking about retirement soon). There's likely more money being paid out to talent at the top of the card than at the bottom of the card. And many of those guys at the top have already had two, three, four, seven runs at the top. How much more dollar value can you squeeze out of a Kane vs. Big Show main event? I'm not saying Curt Hawkins or Yoshi Tatsu are the next Hulk Hogan and Stone Cold Steve Austin, but they never really had the chance to have a run at all. WHAT!!!!! So your saying lets release a good portion of our main event capable guys? I honestly have no idea how to respond to this other than this might be one of the more insane ideas I've ever seen when it comes to wrestling.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jun 12, 2014 14:26:37 GMT -5
If you believe WWE will fire Orton or Cena before Yoshi or Hawkins, RVD will be wanting some of what you're smoking. Cena? No. But what else can Orton do for the company? What else is there with him to accomplish? Do you honestly think he'll be able to be a bigger star than he is now? And it's not like he'll be a shot in the arm for TNA if he were let go, so why not? Hell, Jeff Hardy at his hottest as a main event talent barely moved the needle for TNA, and now he's not even Jeff Hardy over there anymore. Orton has a family, he's likely made a decent nest egg being a top guy for plenty of years, he's still relatively healthy. There's more upside for everyone when it comes to saving money by letting Orton go than not. People I'd have released: Orton; Batista (age, potential injury, and outside wrestling commitments make him more costly than he's worth); Brock Lesnar (because WWE, in a WWE Network era, isn't getting their dollar's worth with him); Kane (again, what else can you do with his gimmick? and I say this as a Kane fan); the Big Show (see Kane and Batista); Mark Henry (see Batista); and maybe Alberto Del Rio (who has openly said that he's thinking about retirement soon). There's likely more money being paid out to talent at the top of the card than at the bottom of the card. And many of those guys at the top have already had two, three, four, seven runs at the top. How much more dollar value can you squeeze out of a Kane vs. Big Show main event? I'm not saying Curt Hawkins or Yoshi Tatsu are the next Hulk Hogan and Stone Cold Steve Austin, but they never really had the chance to have a run at all. Again, the people you would had fired have value to WWE. Nothing says "We're f***ed" like getting rid of main eventers and draws. TNA is doing that and that is what the perception is about them. The last people to go are the ones with value.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jun 12, 2014 14:27:14 GMT -5
Cena? No. But what else can Orton do for the company? What else is there with him to accomplish? Do you honestly think he'll be able to be a bigger star than he is now? And it's not like he'll be a shot in the arm for TNA if he were let go, so why not? Hell, Jeff Hardy at his hottest as a main event talent barely moved the needle for TNA, and now he's not even Jeff Hardy over there anymore. Orton has a family, he's likely made a decent nest egg being a top guy for plenty of years, he's still relatively healthy. There's more upside for everyone when it comes to saving money by letting Orton go than not. People I'd have released: Orton; Batista (age, potential injury, and outside wrestling commitments make him more costly than he's worth); Brock Lesnar (because WWE, in a WWE Network era, isn't getting their dollar's worth with him); Kane (again, what else can you do with his gimmick? and I say this as a Kane fan); the Big Show (see Kane and Batista); Mark Henry (see Batista); and maybe Alberto Del Rio (who has openly said that he's thinking about retirement soon). There's likely more money being paid out to talent at the top of the card than at the bottom of the card. And many of those guys at the top have already had two, three, four, seven runs at the top. How much more dollar value can you squeeze out of a Kane vs. Big Show main event? I'm not saying Curt Hawkins or Yoshi Tatsu are the next Hulk Hogan and Stone Cold Steve Austin, but they never really had the chance to have a run at all. You are absolutely insane WWE pays Brock Lesnar $5 million dollars to work a total of, what, two days a year, and I'm the insane one? Okay.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jun 12, 2014 14:29:52 GMT -5
You are absolutely insane WWE pays Brock Lesnar $5 million dollars to work a total of, what, two days a year, and I'm the insane one? Okay. WWE is the insane one but that is beside the point. In their eyes, Brock is worth the money.
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Post by JTG Fan on Jun 12, 2014 14:34:32 GMT -5
WWE has come to terms on the release of the following Superstars as of today, June 12, 2014:
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jun 12, 2014 14:35:40 GMT -5
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jun 12, 2014 14:36:19 GMT -5
JTGone
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