SEAN CARLESS
Hank Scorpio
More of a B+ player, actually
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jul 20, 2014 22:13:01 GMT -5
How can WWE be so clueless about their own product? this is what they have to offer. There's not much they could do to change it, due to injuries and age and retirements. They tried to put a new guy in the main event, everyone says he's not ready. Maybe some people want Ambrose or Rollins instead? People talking about loose cannons when they talk Ambrose mention Pillman way more than Austin. Pillman never exactly carried a company. And Rollins is doing a pretty good job being overshadowed despite being very entertaining The new guy in the main event wasn't the problem. It was the guy who debuted in WWE 20 years ago next Summer main eventing a PPV in 2014. And this is "not all they got". You literally saw matches wherein they could have changed directions (Wyatts get the belts, Bo get the IC belt) but they instead chose to carry forward a direction that is tired and played out. Usos are awesome, but it was time for them to drop the straps or risk marginalizing the Wyatts credibility. A heatless, worthless Miz also had no business winning the IC title when there's not only others more over, but guys who'd benefit more with the belt. And all to continue a stupid insignificant feud with a stale Sheamus that no one cares about. And Bray Wyatt? You talk abut an afterthought. His character isn't even believable anymore from a cult leader point of view. He's had his legs totally cut off since the feud with Cena. Tonight's show, booking wise, was an exercise is stubbornness and cluelessness. But...I will give you this. After how annoying Cena was after the bell, I do positively look forward to his character dying for his sins against Brock next month. The monumental demolishing I hope they go through with (because it would be about the stupidest business decision ever to have Cena retain right now) will erase the sad, stale taste of tonight from my mouth. Bring on the destroyer!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 22:13:23 GMT -5
People here like the WWE product when it is a GOOD product. Makes sense. If you want people who'll just eat up whatever the WWE serves, then Youtube or Facebook are honestly your best bets. EDIT: Or the aforementioned WWE Magazine. no, people here like WWE when it serves up exactly what they think is a good idea, despite WWE following a rather predictable booking pattern constantly. Or perhaps people are tired of the most predictable result possible. Predictability leads to boredom. there are ways that they can get creative while following the WWE booking formula I'm sure of it.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 20, 2014 22:13:42 GMT -5
They did. They scrapped it. Well there used to be that WWE Nation forum attached to the website *shudder*. Don't know if that exists anymore, thankfully. Ah, they got rid of it? That's lame. It was, and it certainly wasn't a hub of sycophancy. Loads of members were critical of WWE, including me.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jul 20, 2014 22:17:22 GMT -5
Out of morbid curiosity, How dead was the crowd at the end?
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Dragonfly
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Post by Dragonfly on Jul 20, 2014 22:17:36 GMT -5
I don't facebook. I want a place where people go in liking the WWE product knowing what the WWE products is and figuring odds are they'll be happy with it. Try a farm, That's where sheep are Just because some people didn't abjectly hate this show doesn't mean they're sheep. Generalizations make everything worse.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 20, 2014 22:17:37 GMT -5
anybody know any more positive forums? Legitimate question, if it's so miserable here for ya; why remain?
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 20, 2014 22:18:19 GMT -5
Out of morbid curiosity, How dead was the crowd at the end? So dead, Kane wanted to have sex with them
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Post by Capt. Internet Darling on Jul 20, 2014 22:18:56 GMT -5
Ah, they got rid of it? That's lame. It was, and it certainly wasn't a hub of sycophancy. Loads of members were critical of WWE, including me. I just remember it being like this forum, but every member being 9 years old and a total mark. "yess jef hardy you da man!", "cena sux", "ecw is gay" etc. You're right though, there were places with some decent places to chat, but they were hard to find.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jul 20, 2014 22:18:56 GMT -5
I don't facebook. I want a place where people go in liking the WWE product knowing what the WWE products is and figuring odds are they'll be happy with it. Try a farm, That's where sheep are A step far. Keep that reigned in. Thank you kindly.
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SEAN CARLESS
Hank Scorpio
More of a B+ player, actually
I'm Necessary Evil.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jul 20, 2014 22:19:48 GMT -5
People here like the WWE product when it is a GOOD product. Makes sense. If you want people who'll just eat up whatever the WWE serves, then Youtube or Facebook are honestly your best bets. EDIT: Or the aforementioned WWE Magazine. no, people here like WWE when it serves up exactly what they think is a good idea, despite WWE following a rather predictable booking pattern constantly. And you want a forum wherein your own shared, strange world view is completely unquestioned and followed. It's hypocrisy.
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MrBRulzOK
Wade Wilson
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Something Witty Here.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Jul 20, 2014 22:20:38 GMT -5
Gotta say I can see why people aren't enamored with this show, but personally I thought it was a solid pay per view. The opening match alone made the whole thing worthwhile, and ending aside the battle royal was pretty fun too. And the main event was good for what it was.
Considering I only paid ten bucks I more than got my money's worth tonight.
And booking-wise there really wasn't anything appalling. Granted, the battle royal ending was a total downer, but I wasn't surprised it happened. And the Wyatts really should have won tonight, but it's hardly the worst thing in the world to lose a match as hard fought and spectacular as that one. Rowan and Harper will be fine.
Though I will say the treatment of Cesaro tonight was pretty disappointing. I mean I get what they're going for, but Heath Slater? I love the man, but Heath Slater shouldn't be eliminating anyone. Hopefully we'll get Cesaro destroying him on Raw tomorrow night or something so he can start to bounce back from this.
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Phil Parent
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Post by Phil Parent on Jul 20, 2014 22:20:44 GMT -5
But...I will give you this. After how annoying Cena was after the bell, I do positively look forward to his character dying for his sins against Brock next month. The monumental demolishing I hope they go through with (because it would be about the stupidest business decision ever to have Cena retain right now) will erase the sad, stale taste of tonight from my mouth. Bring on the destroyer! Yeah, Brock Lesnar is like the WEAPON monsters in Final Fantasy VII. When the weakling humans mess things up too badly, he awakens, comes out of nowhere and cleans shit up.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 20, 2014 22:21:20 GMT -5
It was, and it certainly wasn't a hub of sycophancy. Loads of members were critical of WWE, including me. I just remember it being like this forum, but every member being 9 years old and a total mark. "yess jef hardy you da man!", "cena sux", "ecw is gay" etc. You're right though, there were places with some decent places to chat, but they were hard to find. It did suffer from a few idiots who would post 100 autoplay YouTube videos on threads, thus causing computers to crash. I had many a flame war with people on the TNA forum who insisted Hulk Hogan would make TNA #1 By the end, WWE made the right decision dumping it.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 20, 2014 22:23:14 GMT -5
But...I will give you this. After how annoying Cena was after the bell, I do positively look forward to his character dying for his sins against Brock next month. The monumental demolishing I hope they go through with (because it would be about the stupidest business decision ever to have Cena retain right now) will erase the sad, stale taste of tonight from my mouth. Bring on the destroyer! Yeah, Brock Lesnar is like the WEAPON monsters in Final Fantasy VII. When the weakling humans mess things up too badly, he awakens, comes out of nowhere and cleans shit up. Help us Obi-Brock Kenobi...
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Jul 20, 2014 22:23:23 GMT -5
Can we go back to WrestleMania weekend? The amazing Hall of Fame ceremony, the awesomeness of WrestleMania itself, and the RAW the night after where it was a showcase of the future of WWE? It's like they panicked and went back to the old guard in a matter of weeks after that. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png)
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MiLB Fan
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Post by MiLB Fan on Jul 20, 2014 22:23:37 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 20, 2014 22:24:13 GMT -5
Can we go back to WrestleMania weekend? The amazing Hall of Fame ceremony, the awesomeness of WrestleMania itself, and the RAW the night after where it was a showcase of the future of WWE? It's like they panicked and went back to the old guard in a matter of weeks after that. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) Some Voodoo Priest in New Orleans put a Curse on WWE since that night.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 20, 2014 22:24:50 GMT -5
Can we go back to WrestleMania weekend? The amazing Hall of Fame ceremony, the awesomeness of WrestleMania itself, and the RAW the night after where it was a showcase of the future of WWE? It's like they panicked and went back to the old guard in a matter of weeks after that. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) Some Voodoo Priest in New Orlean's put a Curse on WWE since that night. If we could get a Papa Shango appearance, it might all be worth it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 22:26:10 GMT -5
As a result of this PPV, for the first time I really feel like the price point of the WWE Network is too high.
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Post by mrjl on Jul 20, 2014 22:26:34 GMT -5
this is what they have to offer. There's not much they could do to change it, due to injuries and age and retirements. They tried to put a new guy in the main event, everyone says he's not ready. Maybe some people want Ambrose or Rollins instead? People talking about loose cannons when they talk Ambrose mention Pillman way more than Austin. Pillman never exactly carried a company. And Rollins is doing a pretty good job being overshadowed despite being very entertaining The new guy in the main event wasn't the problem. It was the guy who debuted in WWE 20 years ago next Summer main eventing a PPV in 2014. And this is "not all they got". You literally saw matches wherein they could have changed directions (Wyatts get the belts, Bo get the IC belt) but they instead chose to carry forward a direction that is tired and played out. Usos are awesome, but it was time for them to drop the straps or risk marginalizing the Wyatts credibility. A heatless, worthless Miz also had no business winning the IC title when there's not only others more over, but guys who'd benefit more with the belt. And all to continue a stupid insignificant feud with a stale Sheamus that no one cares about. And Bray Wyatt? You talk abut an afterthought. His character isn't even believable anymore from a cult leader point of view. He's had his legs totally cut off since the feud with Cena. Tonight's show, booking wise, was an exercise is stubbornness and cluelessness. Most of these we can never agree on. I despise the Wyatts as characters for example and find the idea of a cult leader to be legitimately pathetic without help to be appropriate for the character. The Usos haven't even won one feud as tag team champs and you say it's time for them to drop the straps to protect a different team. They beat the NAO in a feud that was harder than it should have been for them, took on all comers at Mania as a replacement for a proper build then went into the feud with the Wyatts. As long as it took the WWE to get the Usos the titles and you want them to drop them after one feud to protect a different team. Screw protecting heels, they cheat, they can win matches that way. Worry about protecting faces. It's really this constant desire to move onto the next thing that is a significant part of drives me nuts. I like to enjoy the view at my destination quite a while before moving onto the next thing.
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