Dub H
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Post by Dub H on Jul 9, 2014 3:27:58 GMT -5
Psychology means "the stuff a wrestler I like does." Nah,i think when it comes to psychology,one great example is Triple H,he can absorb you into the match and tell a story,and that is psycology,not stuff you like,or the awesome moves.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jul 9, 2014 4:21:48 GMT -5
I always thought "ring psychology" pertained to the intellectual and psychological elements (e.g. selling moves, selling "injury," etc.) hence its name. What are other people calling "psychology?" It's pretty much why people are doing things in the ring, that could be selling an injury because that's the story of the match but it's also everything from why wrestlers use different styles (giants using power moves and smaller guys high-flying) to something like Austin being desperate enough to use the million dollar dream. Currently Ambrose is arguably the best example of somebody who as good at that side of things (top rope botch excluded), he has little wasted motion as nearly everything he does serves a purpose, historically Jake Roberts and Foley are the classic examples of wrestlers with good psychology for the same reason. If you sit there questioning why the hell a wrestler would do that it's typically and example of poor psychology (although wrestling has a certain rule of cool quality that excludes some things). There are also people that use it to describe the type of stylised over-dramatic match often seen at WM but they can have worse psychology than an indy spot fest.
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Post by mrwood on Jul 9, 2014 5:59:58 GMT -5
'Workrate' is such a stupid term that can't be quantified. If we take it in its literal sense Cena has the best workrate of all time given his ludicrous schedule and commitment to the company for 12 years straight.
Plus he has great matches. He's got great workrate, whatever we call it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 6:27:30 GMT -5
I hope everyone on this forum cares about their spouse or future spouse as much as the OP cares about Cena. Everyday would be like The Notebook.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 6:58:35 GMT -5
This thread proves people's understanding of work rate and psychology is as good as their understanding that Ziggler only bumps but never sells. Ziggler wouldn't finish a match if he sold what he bumps.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 11:40:37 GMT -5
But seriously, there's a huge difference between "workrate" and "psychology".
"Workrate" isn't automatically a good thing and it seems to have taken on a very different meaning from what it meant when I was a newbie wrestling fan. My first discussions about it said it was literally the amount of stuff a guy did in a match vs the amount of time he spent doing stally nonsense or crowd playing. Having a high workrate didn't automatically mean you were a better wrestler.
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Post by Neo: "The One" who CLAPS on Jul 9, 2014 11:42:02 GMT -5
You heard the man. Cena has good psychology, but horrible work rate in the traditional sense. He never remembers to sell limbs and goes from selling a move like a shot gun blast to JK IM FINE in about 3 seconds on match to match basis. Not to mention that a lot of the times, his moves look clumsy as hell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 11:48:26 GMT -5
I always thought "ring psychology" pertained to the intellectual and psychological elements (e.g. selling moves, selling "injury," etc.) hence its name. What are other people calling "psychology?" Ring psychology is so RoH, and/or 80's. There's just no time in present day WWE. "Ah, my leg. My leg. I'm 100% fine and am kicking your ass now." The dopes can't even keep track of which appendage they're supposed to be selling half the time, it's such a non-factor.
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