No Longer a Produceman
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Jul 16, 2014 14:47:34 GMT -5
Russo is claiming on Twitter it was a long planned swerve...I wish I was making this up. Vince Russo=GOAT. =
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 14:52:10 GMT -5
It feels to me like they think Russo's got good ideas, and that his reputation is undeserved. Therefore, to prevent "FIRE RUSSO" chants, they want him to be their secret. Then, people will accept the storylines. That was my thought as well. Which is hilarious because people have been speculating he's been working for them in some creative capacity since Hogan left because his fingerprints are all over the show. Its kind of depressing when you think about it. They failed to keep something a secret that wasn't really a secret to begin with because their secret was transparent to any one who watched the show and Russo's failed attempt to keep it a secret ended with him divulging the secret that everyone already knew.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 16, 2014 14:56:30 GMT -5
This is why I hate TNA. They had the best possible opportunity to build something solid as an alternative to WWE, but they've wasted the chance through wilful ignorance, stubborness and a failure to learn from any mistakes.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jul 16, 2014 15:41:04 GMT -5
Bit of an update: THE REAL FINAL STATEMENT OF VINCE RUSSO'S INVOLVEMENT WITH TNA, ISSUED BY RUSSO HIMSELF by Dave Scherer @ 6:29 PM on 7/15/2014 After listening to Vinnie Ru's interview with Stone Cold I can't read this without interjecting "From the bottom of my heart!", "Stone Cold I'm with ya.", and "On my mother's life!" in a thick long island accent.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jul 16, 2014 15:47:17 GMT -5
I never had any doubts. Whenever he addressed the topic, he always used a tone suggesting that he was denying being involved in wrestling any more, but the actual words didn't deny it at all. He went out of his way to slam reports on the internet, yet the most legit wrestling sites were absolutely right in saying that he was consulting with TNA. It's like Russo takes some random news site or twitter user saying something wrong and then uses that to just making a blanket statement that ALL of the internet wrestling reporting is wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 15:56:31 GMT -5
Russo is basically a curse on wrestling. Unless wrestling collects all of Cortes' Aztec gold and restores it back to the chest, Russo will never truly be gone. Honestly, we deserve the curse for assigning Clasico Sin Cara to put the gold back in the chest.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 16, 2014 18:29:44 GMT -5
= What's Kevin Dunn have to do with Russo?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 16, 2014 19:15:09 GMT -5
Ain't no way TNA is gonna have Bound For Glory in Japan now. Russo is the most hated person there since Invader. I wonder if when they signed the deal with wrestle one, one of the clauses stated that Vince Russo is no longer associated with them? If that's the case and they're breaching the contract, would wrestle one take any legal actions?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 16, 2014 19:35:42 GMT -5
How is that unprofessional? I don't know its just the reporting of something from an email that wasn't meant for him. Just doesn't seem 'right'. Woodward&Bernstein weren't supposed to know about Watergate either. It's apples/oranges I understand, but just from a journalistic standpoint, generally you aren't gonna go "welp, I'm not supposed to know this, better not report it."
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Post by amazingoopah on Jul 16, 2014 19:50:40 GMT -5
= I'd trust the goat with the book more than VinnyRu at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 22:44:28 GMT -5
Russo sending an email to the wrong person and then claiming it was a swerve is hysterical.
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Post by khali on Jul 16, 2014 23:58:27 GMT -5
I can see this in a shoot interview in the future . . .
Interviewer: So, Vince, was the point of swerving people about working for TNA through a supposed accidently sent email? It seemed kind of pointless. Russo: Bro, I know. But I had this plan that talent and Dixie wouldn't go for.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 9:58:34 GMT -5
I;m guessing he remove it from his website but here a screengrab just in case.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 17, 2014 10:17:46 GMT -5
I wonder how this guy gets to be associated with TNA. Back in the prehistoric age NWA-TNA he told Jerry that Jeff wasn't championship material, betrays them goes to wwe then gets fired in less than a week. Is responsible for a sub par product that lasted years, survived when hogan (a man he defamed on ppv causing a lawsuit) returned, I wonder if he has incriminating photos from Dixie.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 17, 2014 10:22:24 GMT -5
I wonder how this guy gets to be associated with TNA. Back in the prehistoric age NWA-TNA he told Jerry that Jeff wasn't championship material, I would argue that this was true... especially how TNA usually booked Jarrett as the champion. But I thought Russo was a big Jarrett supporter.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 17, 2014 10:25:36 GMT -5
I wonder how this guy gets to be associated with TNA. Back in the prehistoric age NWA-TNA he told Jerry that Jeff wasn't championship material, I would argue that this was true... especially how TNA usually booked Jarrett as the champion. But I thought Russo was a big Jarrett supporter. Yeah he actually put the WCW strap on him, It surprised jerry because the only reason jeff brought Russo in was to keep the gravy train going, I think he wanted to get fired so he could go to the wwe and pitched the invasion 2.0 (he blames Heyman, Hayes and Pritchard for sabotaging him then)
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Post by Lazy peon on Jul 17, 2014 10:28:43 GMT -5
Russo is claiming on Twitter it was a long planned swerve...I wish I was making this up. Vince Russo=GOAT. We got a swervin' goat, maggle!
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 17, 2014 10:47:16 GMT -5
I wonder how this guy gets to be associated with TNA. Back in the prehistoric age NWA-TNA he told Jerry that Jeff wasn't championship material, I would argue that this was true... especially how TNA usually booked Jarrett as the champion. But I thought Russo was a big Jarrett supporter. Jeff as NWA champ didn't bother me (Technically, he was never TNA champ, but semantics), what bothered me was that they rode with it for too long, and at the expense of guys who should have had the ball longer than they got it(Raven, Rhino), or who probably could have been given a chance, such as Monty Brown, even if he was green. The whole Planet Jarrett thing on way too damn long.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 17, 2014 10:53:39 GMT -5
I would argue that this was true... especially how TNA usually booked Jarrett as the champion. But I thought Russo was a big Jarrett supporter. Jeff as NWA champ didn't bother me (Technically, he was never TNA champ, but semantics), what bothered me was that they rode with it for too long, and at the expense of guys who should have had the ball longer than they got it(Raven, Rhino), or who probably could have been given a chance, such as Monty Brown, even if he was green. The whole Planet Jarrett thing on way too damn long. Yeah that was the second half of my quote meant. He was pretty much the default setting for the title. not to mention he would kick out of like 7 finishers only to win the match with a single guitar shot.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Jul 17, 2014 18:44:43 GMT -5
So I take it Vinny Ru has the sheets in his contacts so he can expedite the process of complaining about whatever criticism they have about his booking. Then for some reason anyone who deconstructs the shows (like the way any form of entertainment would be deconstructed when discussing it by its fans and critics) he books are "marks" for dare to want a wrestling show to have the actual wrestling to get the lion's share of the airtime (reading that back I kinda sound like Cornette) and for the storylines to make sense and be of high quality (bet Russo doesn't think people who think movies or non-wrestling TV shows who complain about poor writing of tele/screenplays to be "marks"). Yet he'll go on long spiels about the criticism he gets for his booking that are often longer than the initial criticism, yet we're marks who over thinking this whole pro wrestling thing.
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