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Post by The Tee Why on Jul 22, 2014 14:57:03 GMT -5
Once again the IWC acts like someone who just got finished awkwardly noticing their ex in the mall or something "yeah...well she looks good...looks happy" christ he's a former pro wrestler not your highschool sweet heart... Considering how many of us see wheelchair bound/dead at 40 childhood heroes from wrestling I think it's excusable in such circumstances. It's good to see someone not suffering after coming out of the business. I am of two minds about CM Punk's and his situation with WWE: part of me commends him and feels he should serve as a role model for many future young wrestlers because A. he was smart about his money and did not blow it all on partying and extravagances that he is perfectly happy without, and B. if there is any one thing a successful man should know, it is when to stop-and he decided to stop while he was young and healthy enough to pursue other avenues. On that same note, I feel that future wrestlers should take note of how Punk ended his relationship with WWE as the way NOT to do it. It is always better to let a cooler head prevail and to not burn the bridge behind you-throwing a temper tantrum and storming out doesn't do you or anyone else any good. Even when your grievances are 100% legit, it is still best to be mature and level headed about it. Nuff said. But most people in the business have said they essentially agreed in business terms to let it happen, and the likes of Austin, JR, Jericho etc have said Punk was right to stop if he was too hurt/tired, without outside drama. The only drama is from fans who don't know what happened. It'd be like if I walked out on my job after explaining that, I don't know, I had to go and get rehab for my neck again, boss agreed, but because I don't put myself out there to explain everything to people who have no relevance to the situation (which no one has to, no one's owed an explanation) they started saying we raged at each other and I stormed out. It doesn't mean it's true, people just like the most dramatic/argumentative reasons in their own minds. Both the company and CM Punk were happy to let the time run out, a company known for belittling and insulting people who leave, people BIGGER than Punk like Steve Austin got buried by The Rock in such circumstances. CM Punk did not insult the company once, he thanked the fans a few times for their support, and hasn't done stupid shoot interviews or whatever else. It's just drama people are making up because they're taking the kayfabe characters of Vince McMahon/Triple H/CM Punk to be the real people who discussed the matters away from the needless prying eyes of the public. Eh, I'm happy to see guys wanting to live full lives without wrestling til their hearts give out and they die at like 46 too. My comment was made simply as a joke/parody of how the IWC has a love affair with the guy
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 22, 2014 15:07:37 GMT -5
Oh god, are we in the "it's a work!" stage of this already? I was hoping it would be a while yet.
Oh well, get it out of your system.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 22, 2014 15:18:04 GMT -5
Jeff should return dressed as Punk and say "OH, were you expecting someone else??? WELL HE'S GONE!"
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Jul 22, 2014 17:11:41 GMT -5
It's amazing, wrestling fans bemoan the fate of guys like the Dynamite Kid yet get pissed when someone would dare take a sabbatical (whether temporary or permanent) from the business. As has already been said, Punk and WWE seemed to split amicably. Punk said that he can't do this anymore and WWE said that he could just sit out the rest of his contract after he fulfilled his previously agreed upon commitments. It's weird how much of a cult wrestling can be. Like once you're out you've left "the family" and you're "dead to us" now, or something. No, the guy decided to switch careers. Plenty of people do this in all areas of life, whether they're people in entertainment or just regular Joes (or Janes). But for some reason wrestlers deciding they no longer want wrestling to be their career are treated like turncoats, and it is completely irrational. Jeff should return dressed as Punk and say "OH, were you expecting someone else??? WELL HE'S GONE!" Jeff Hardy should return dressed as CM Punk dressed as Jeff Hardy. Double swerve!
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Post by Andy Martin on Jul 22, 2014 17:26:55 GMT -5
Oh god, are we in the "it's a work!" stage of this already? I was hoping it would be a while yet. Oh well, get it out of your system. ...what?
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jul 22, 2014 17:34:00 GMT -5
Irrational CM Punk hate is the most hilarious thing online to me. Dude's like the Anti-Cena wherein they think in real life he's a walking piece of shit, when any tangible documentation of him being mean to people is on Twitter, to people who are stupid, and who deserve to be rightly annihilated and mocked for being so. I love Punk. I subscribe to his same philosophy.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 22, 2014 17:40:13 GMT -5
Going on the messed up knees: that's why Punk stopped using the Pepsi Plunge as his finisher (as opposed to the "one-upping Triple H" rumor that went around). It killed his knees and he risked serious, career-ending injury continuing to do it.
I think he's done being a fulltime wrestler and it's good that he knows when to call it quits instead of destroying his body denying it. I wouldn't be surprised to see him come back part-time or fill a non-wrestling role in the future, if only so he can spend time on the road with his new wife. Like I'd love to see him as a Board-of-Directors appointed GM to check the Authority's power. Or a commentator.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 17:51:02 GMT -5
Irrational CM Punk hate is the most hilarious thing online to me. Dude's like the Anti-Cena wherein they think in real life he's a walking piece of shit, when any tangible documentation of him being mean to people is on Twitter, to people who are stupid, and who deserve to be rightly annihilated and mocked for being so. I love Punk. I subscribe to his same philosophy. For a man who claims to want to keep a low profile, he spends an awful lot of time playing trollbait. Personally, I didn't give a damn about his thoughts on religion or politics or anything else. I thought the dude had a cool presence and was absolutely on fire for the first four years or so of his run, even in the slow parts. Then he started talking about things besides wrestling and it all went downhill from there. You can be certain things or believe in certain things without them taking center stage. Take Tom Cruise, who I think has a pretty skewed outlook on life but leaves that at the door when he focuses on the movies that he's in. He's had some great performances over the course of his career and has still got it. Then there's people like John Travolta who go off the deep end and are henceforth impossible for me to take seriously because of their Battlefield Earths and the stains those leave behind. Punk reminds me much more of Travolta than of Cruise. When he was all about the wrestling, he was enjoyable. I miss that Punk.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 22, 2014 17:53:43 GMT -5
There's not enough use of "Crap Man Punk" in this thread for my taste.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 22, 2014 17:58:11 GMT -5
We've Punka-nuff!
Nah, doesn't work.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 22, 2014 18:23:31 GMT -5
Irrational CM Punk hate is the most hilarious thing online to me. Dude's like the Anti-Cena wherein they think in real life he's a walking piece of shit, when any tangible documentation of him being mean to people is on Twitter, to people who are stupid, and who deserve to be rightly annihilated and mocked for being so. I love Punk. I subscribe to his same philosophy. For a man who claims to want to keep a low profile, he spends an awful lot of time playing trollbait. Personally, I didn't give a damn about his thoughts on religion or politics or anything else. I thought the dude had a cool presence and was absolutely on fire for the first four years or so of his run, even in the slow parts. Then he started talking about things besides wrestling and it all went downhill from there. You can be certain things or believe in certain things without them taking center stage. Take Tom Cruise, who I think has a pretty skewed outlook on life but leaves that at the door when he focuses on the movies that he's in. He's had some great performances over the course of his career and has still got it. Then there's people like John Travolta who go off the deep end and are henceforth impossible for me to take seriously because of their Battlefield Earths and the stains those leave behind. Punk reminds me much more of Travolta than of Cruise. When he was all about the wrestling, he was enjoyable. I miss that Punk. I'd go a step farther than that, and say he's more Alec Baldwin than he is Travolta. Travolta may have a skewed worldview, but he's not as abrasive and nasty to people as Alec Baldwin is.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Jul 22, 2014 18:34:20 GMT -5
I refuse to believe he is drug-free with a haircut like that.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 22, 2014 18:34:43 GMT -5
Oh god, are we in the "it's a work!" stage of this already? I was hoping it would be a while yet. Oh well, get it out of your system. ...what? Don't what me. /R-Truth I'm saying that people are already convinced that Punk is working people and plans to come back. If he does, great, but I believe he's genuine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 18:39:41 GMT -5
Don't what me. /R-Truth I'm saying that people are already convinced that Punk is working people and plans to come back. If he does, great, but I believe he's genuine. I don't think anyone in here has said that, not in the 'Montreal is a work!' way certainly, but watching the video he was happily joking around about never-ever-ever coming back, as he knew people'd take him 100% seriously to run into the ground etc. It was like any other news story or fan interpretation where jokes are taken seriously, Punk may well be done, but he and the company seem happy/decent enough with one another enough to mean that if Punk wanted to come back, given his link to fans, there'd be absolutely zero problem for him. At the same time, if he doesn't, then good for him either way. Aside from that I'm bemused by people taking this video seriously/as if he's seeking attention, he got interviewed on a show he was compering for! You can't avoid that stuff. He's about as much of a troll as any celebrity in that regard.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jul 22, 2014 18:52:23 GMT -5
For a man who claims to want to keep a low profile, he spends an awful lot of time playing trollbait. Personally, I didn't give a damn about his thoughts on religion or politics or anything else. I thought the dude had a cool presence and was absolutely on fire for the first four years or so of his run, even in the slow parts. Then he started talking about things besides wrestling and it all went downhill from there. You can be certain things or believe in certain things without them taking center stage. Take Tom Cruise, who I think has a pretty skewed outlook on life but leaves that at the door when he focuses on the movies that he's in. He's had some great performances over the course of his career and has still got it. Then there's people like John Travolta who go off the deep end and are henceforth impossible for me to take seriously because of their Battlefield Earths and the stains those leave behind. Punk reminds me much more of Travolta than of Cruise. When he was all about the wrestling, he was enjoyable. I miss that Punk. I'd go a step farther than that, and say he's more Alec Baldwin than he is Travolta. Travolta may have a skewed worldview, but he's not as abrasive and nasty to people as Alec Baldwin is. The majority of the people on Twitter Punk destroys deserve to be. They're saying the most ludicrous things in some lame, futile attempt to put Punk in his place. But, like trying to heckle a comedian, these types seldomly realize their own pathetically limited skillset to troll a guy who pretty much talked his way to the top will end is humiliation and not triumph. It's honestly, in most cases, the equivalent of some fat retard thinking he can jump into the cage from the crowd at a UFC show and somehow take down a fighter. Only, at least with the latter, you'd get to see said imbecile knocked into literal toothless unconsciousness. On Twitter we just get to laugh at the guy who doesn't truly understand how owned he was, or why thousands of people are now laughing at him.
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Post by paulbearer on Jul 22, 2014 18:54:27 GMT -5
He's a big mouth NOW but when the "well" (ie bank account) is empty or near empty he'll be back kissing Vince's ass....I'm naive on certain things but I sure as hell wasn't born yesterday , I know how the world works and if there's big money to be made......
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 22, 2014 18:54:39 GMT -5
As for Punk as a person, the thing about him is that I've never seen him attack someone unprovoked. Sure he uses dissportionate retribution at times, but it will always be against someone who messed with him first. Leave him alone and he'll leave you alone. I consider an asshole to be someone like Bully Ray, who will get in your face at a house show and throw his weight at you (in the form of homophobic slurs).
Plus there are instances of Punk being nice to fans, they just always go ignored.
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Jul 22, 2014 19:20:01 GMT -5
I consider an asshole to be someone like Bully Ray, who will get in your face at a house show and throw his weight at you (in the form of homophobic slurs) Punk did the exact same thing at a house show and the WWE were forced to issue a public apology. There was also the time Punk randomly swung at the crowd and almost hit a little kid - where the WWE had to issue another public apology. Or that time when Punk openly mocked an overweight fan on live TV for 2 minutes straight because he was getting booed. I wouldn't call any of this disproportionate retribution but rather having a really thin skin and overreacting to things.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jul 22, 2014 19:38:57 GMT -5
He's a big mouth NOW but when the "well" (ie bank account) is empty or near empty he'll be back kissing Vince's ass....I'm naive on certain things but I sure as hell wasn't born yesterday , I know how the world works and if there's big money to be made...... What are you even talking about? ? When has Punk had a big mouth? Seems like Punk and Vince are on mutual terms with CM Punk being presented in a positive light by WWE.
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