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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Aug 13, 2014 10:26:47 GMT -5
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Aug 13, 2014 10:37:02 GMT -5
Why they got to shit on the 99 Mets infield? That was arguably one of the best infields ever. Great defensively and some really good hitters. So what the hell SI?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 13, 2014 10:43:30 GMT -5
The 2004 Cubs one, they we're *sorta* close. It was their A.L counterpart instead.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Aug 13, 2014 10:45:39 GMT -5
I got a chuckle out of the "Pittsburgh's black quarterback" line
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Aug 13, 2014 10:46:44 GMT -5
The 2004 Cubs one, they we're *sorta* close. It was their A.L counterpart instead. SI probably put that on the cover because they felt bad over the whole Bartman thing. It's funny how their AL counterpart has gone on to win 2 additional WS titles since breaking their own curse. But nothing for the Cubs yet. You know..at the time, you could make a case for both Sox teams being the Cubs' AL counterpart. Both were equally cursed.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 13, 2014 10:55:25 GMT -5
The 2004 Cubs one, they we're *sorta* close. It was their A.L counterpart instead. SI probably put that on the cover because they felt bad over the whole Bartman thing. It's funny how their AL counterpart has gone on to win 2 additional WS titles since breaking their own curse. But nothing for the Cubs yet. You know..at the time, you could make a case for both Sox teams being the Cubs' AL counterpart. Both were equally cursed. As an outsider, I feel like the Cubs have been opne of those teams that *should* have gotten over the threshold by now. At least gotten to the World Series. Any Cubs fans wanna explain why not? Bad management?, bad luck? bad front office? All 3 of those?
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Post by Perd on Aug 13, 2014 11:29:13 GMT -5
In SI's defense, the 2004 Cubs were loaded. And at the start of the season the favorite to win their division if not the NL pennant. This was the team:
C - Michael Barrett/Damian Miller 1B - Derrek Lee 2B - Mark Grudzilane/Todd Walker SS - Alex Gonzalez/ Nomar Garciaparra 3B - Aramis Ramirez LF - Moises Alou CF - Corey Patterson RF - Sammy Sosa
SP: Mark Prior, Kerry Wood, Greg Maddux, Matt Clement, and Carlos Zambran
Only problems were the mediocre BP and Dusty Baker. But that's a team that should have made the playoffs.
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Post by RedSmile on Aug 13, 2014 11:31:24 GMT -5
SI probably put that on the cover because they felt bad over the whole Bartman thing. It's funny how their AL counterpart has gone on to win 2 additional WS titles since breaking their own curse. But nothing for the Cubs yet. You know..at the time, you could make a case for both Sox teams being the Cubs' AL counterpart. Both were equally cursed. As an outsider, I feel like the Cubs have been opne of those teams that *should* have gotten over the threshold by now. At least gotten to the World Series. Any Cubs fans wanna explain why not? Bad management?, bad luck? bad front office? All 3 of those? The Chicago Cubs system as whole was a really bad system top to bottom, this while under the ownership of the Chicago Tribune. There was very little effort put into developing a winning culture, little effort in developing a minor league system that could continuously produce major league players, and a history of being cheap. For a long time the Tribune made a profit off of being on WGN, Harry Carey, and being the lovable losers. So yes to the Bad Management and Bad Front Office. The change in ownership to the Ricketts' family, and the hiring of Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer have shown a change in philosophy and priorities. Over the last few years it has been a total tear down and rebuild from the bottom up and the fruit is now starting to ripen.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Aug 13, 2014 11:32:36 GMT -5
In SI's defense, the 2004 Cubs were loaded. And at the start of the season the favorite to win their division if not the NL pennant. This was the team: C - Michael Barrett/Damian Miller 1B - Derrek Lee 2B - Mark Grudzilane/Todd Walker SS - Alex Gonzalez/ Nomar Garciaparra 3B - Aramis Ramirez LF - Moises Alou CF - Corey Patterson RF - Sammy Sosa SP: Mark Prior, Kerry Wood, Greg Maddux, Matt Clement, and Carlos Zambran Only problems were the mediocre BP and Dusty Baker. But that's a team that should have made the playoffs. They collapsed in last weekend and coughed up the Wildcard.Up to the last month they had been better than the 2003 team.
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Post by Perd on Aug 13, 2014 11:37:10 GMT -5
In SI's defense, the 2004 Cubs were loaded. And at the start of the season the favorite to win their division if not the NL pennant. This was the team: C - Michael Barrett/Damian Miller 1B - Derrek Lee 2B - Mark Grudzilane/Todd Walker SS - Alex Gonzalez/ Nomar Garciaparra 3B - Aramis Ramirez LF - Moises Alou CF - Corey Patterson RF - Sammy Sosa SP: Mark Prior, Kerry Wood, Greg Maddux, Matt Clement, and Carlos Zambran Only problems were the mediocre BP and Dusty Baker. But that's a team that should have made the playoffs. They collapsed in last weekend and coughed up the Wildcard.Up to the last month they had been better than the 2003 team. That series against the Reds still pisses me off.
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Post by Lancers on Aug 13, 2014 11:46:39 GMT -5
The good news for the Cubs is that they have some elite hitting prospects coming up from the farm and they have the payroll flexibility to go sign some big name pitching talent in the FA market. Their future looks really bright and I think by 2016 they could make people forget about 2003/04.
As for the thread topic, the Charles Barkley one wins. I can't believe several people let that one pass through without thinking that could possibly go south.
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Post by RedSmile on Aug 13, 2014 11:48:21 GMT -5
In SI's defense, the 2004 Cubs were loaded. And at the start of the season the favorite to win their division if not the NL pennant. This was the team: C - Michael Barrett/Damian Miller 1B - Derrek Lee 2B - Mark Grudzilane/Todd Walker SS - Alex Gonzalez/ Nomar Garciaparra 3B - Aramis Ramirez LF - Moises Alou CF - Corey Patterson RF - Sammy Sosa SP: Mark Prior, Kerry Wood, Greg Maddux, Matt Clement, and Carlos Zambran Only problems were the mediocre BP and Dusty Baker. But that's a team that should have made the playoffs. They collapsed in last weekend and coughed up the Wildcard.Up to the last month they had been better than the 2003 team. I'd argue that the "Lovable Loser" thing came to an end in 2004. This was the year where people discovered how unlikable some of those guys were. This was the year that there were guys (which included Dusty Baker) bitching about Steve Stone's in game criticisms, and Sammy Sosa pouting and walking out of a game early at the end of the season. On top of that the highly hyped starting pitching who were over worked in 2003 and then completely broken down in 2004, with the exception of Zambrano and Greg Maddux who despite being brought in as a hood ornament, was asked to be a workhorse, and did as well as could be expected.
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Post by amaron on Aug 13, 2014 11:49:59 GMT -5
Why they got to shit on the 99 Mets infield? That was arguably one of the best infields ever. Great defensively and some really good hitters. So what the hell SI? It's in style to shit all over the Mets and their fans.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 11:58:57 GMT -5
I love the Jimmy Clausen one. Dude never made it in the NFL and it was over for him once Cam Newton was drafted.
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Post by rocket on Aug 13, 2014 11:59:04 GMT -5
Why they got to shit on the 99 Mets infield? That was arguably one of the best infields ever. Great defensively and some really good hitters. So what the hell SI? It's in style to shit all over the Mets and their fans. You beat me to it. I don't know if it made the cover, but in 2009 they predicted with the signing of K-Rod, the Mets would win the World Series. That was the year Luis Castillo dropped an infield pop fly to lose to the Yankees, and they still haven't recovered, imo. edit: Or how about this from 2 months into 2007, when it seemed like everything was just fine:
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 13, 2014 12:01:21 GMT -5
To be fair the Mets kinda bring it on themselves for having a history of completely imploding in on themselves usually about midway through the season
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Post by Milkman Norm on Aug 13, 2014 12:01:22 GMT -5
I love the Jimmy Clausen one. Dude never made it in the NFL and it was over for him once Cam Newton was drafted. Hopefully he'll be a decent backup.
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Post by kidglov3s on Aug 13, 2014 14:23:33 GMT -5
That Shirley MacLaine cover is awesome! 99 yards? WHAT A WAY TO GO!
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Post by Welfare Willis on Aug 13, 2014 14:47:42 GMT -5
I'd say this one ranks up there...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 15:36:29 GMT -5
But this one is genius.
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