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Post by Emmet Russell on Sept 1, 2014 20:29:09 GMT -5
Because I don't think there's anything he's written in TNA that's been good to my knowledge. Isn't his current claim to fame that he wrote the Aces & 8's story? which was garbage for the majority of it.
I've heard such a great reputation for the guy, especially around the time he had his podcast - which he deleted because of the negative stuff he said about TNA when taking a job with ... TNA - and he's really changed nothing. It's still a poorly written show the majority of the time and there's been no big changes that I've noticed.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Sept 1, 2014 21:06:18 GMT -5
I really don't know because I have no clue what he's actually booked. In WWE he had Vince, Dunn, Gerwertz and others over him I think. TNA had Russo, Hogan, Bischoff and Big over him. I don't even know if he booked anything in ROH.
Basically like most writers/bookers, none of them have really gotten a chance to show what they can do on a somewhat major level outside of Pierce, Gabe, Quack and Delirious. It has been nothing but retreads at WWE and TNA for over a decade and some of these guys do get credit for coming up with an idea but there is no way they were responsible for the final product that we see.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Sept 1, 2014 21:13:09 GMT -5
He follows me on Twitter, that puts him a step above Russo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 21:36:59 GMT -5
It might not mean anything but I think his tenure in TNA lines up with the 2012 BFG series. I think he had free because he has ROH experience and he had a good podcast/blog but if he has any juice as a wrestling writer he's fighting a losing battle or he's just not as good as was lead on.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 1, 2014 21:45:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I could be totally wrong about this as I don't know who was in charge of what, but I remember when news came out that Russo was leaving during the Hogan era, and that Lagana was taking the lead or a at least a higher role in his place, that coincided with things like the 2012 BFG Series, the resurrection of Samoa Joe's character, and the rise of Austin Aries/the Roode vs. Aries feud. Even the awful Clair Lynch angle was still giving us regular Bad Influence goodness and great AJ matches at the time.
Again, I could be totally wrong about his role in that, but that was at least a fun time.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Sept 1, 2014 21:53:28 GMT -5
Yeah, I could be totally wrong about this as I don't know who was in charge of what, but I remember when news came out that Russo was leaving during the Hogan era, and that Lagana was taking the lead or a at least a higher role in his place, that coincided with things like the 2012 BFG Series, the resurrection of Samoa Joe's character, and the rise of Austin Aries/the Roode vs. Aries feud. Even the awful Clair Lynch angle was still giving us regular Bad Influence goodness and great AJ matches at the time. Again, I could be totally wrong about his role in that, but that was at least a fun time. True. That was probably TNA at their best - especially the Aries/Roode stuff; most of it was gold. I feel like much of the Bad Influence stuff came from the minds of Daniels and Kazarian and not an actual writer, but I could be wrong about that too. Most of the stuff they came up with and said just felt too much like something they would think of and not from the mind of a writer. The Claire Lynch stuff though? straight from the mind of a writer.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Sept 1, 2014 22:09:46 GMT -5
Yeah, I could be totally wrong about this as I don't know who was in charge of what, but I remember when news came out that Russo was leaving during the Hogan era, and that Lagana was taking the lead or a at least a higher role in his place, that coincided with things like the 2012 BFG Series, the resurrection of Samoa Joe's character, and the rise of Austin Aries/the Roode vs. Aries feud. Even the awful Clair Lynch angle was still giving us regular Bad Influence goodness and great AJ matches at the time. Again, I could be totally wrong about his role in that, but that was at least a fun time. True. That was probably TNA at their best - especially the Aries/Roode stuff; most of it was gold. I feel like much of the Bad Influence stuff came from the minds of Daniels and Kazarian and not an actual writer, You'd be right there. Daniels said on a podcast post-release (I think it was Stone Colds one) that the TNA writers actively did not pay attention to him and Kaz so there pretty much got free reign.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Sept 1, 2014 22:12:14 GMT -5
True. That was probably TNA at their best - especially the Aries/Roode stuff; most of it was gold. I feel like much of the Bad Influence stuff came from the minds of Daniels and Kazarian and not an actual writer, You'd be right there. Daniels said on a podcast post-release (I think it was Stone Colds one) that the TNA writers actively did not pay attention to him and Kaz so there pretty much got free reign. That explains why they were always the best part of the show. I give the Attitude Era some crap too, but they had the right idea when it came to letting a lot of their talent wing it and improvise. It really let the true stars shine and nothing felt overly forced.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Sept 1, 2014 22:37:43 GMT -5
I don't know whether to like the guy or not. Pros: He came across as a really smart and nice guy on his aow episode. Is a protege of Paul Heyman. He also did a blog about punk's hardships when Heyman left ECW, it was a great read. Cons: I also heard about creative ignoring Bad Influence. Back in the wwe, Londrick asked him where their characters were going, he answered, "Taco Bell?".
Whatever, he should be in charge of creative, he has more experience and a better track record, than Christy Hemme and Gaburick...idk which one is worse between Hemme and Gaburick.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 1, 2014 23:39:35 GMT -5
Was it him or someone else who is even in TNA due to getting caught leaking information to Meltzer?
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Post by Ganon83 on Sept 1, 2014 23:54:04 GMT -5
I don't know whether to like the guy or not. Pros: He came across as a really smart and nice guy on his aow episode. Is a protege of Paul Heyman. He also did a blog about punk's hardships when Heyman left ECW, it was a great read. Cons: I also heard about creative ignoring Bad Influence. Back in the wwe, Londrick asked him where their characters were going, he answered, "Taco Bell?". Whatever, he should be in charge of creative, he has more experience and a better track record, than Christy Hemme and Gaburick...idk which one is worse between Hemme and Gaburick. Christy isn't really in creative per say, her main job is image/wardrobe for everybody.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Sept 2, 2014 0:01:11 GMT -5
I don't know whether to like the guy or not. Pros: He came across as a really smart and nice guy on his aow episode. Is a protege of Paul Heyman. He also did a blog about punk's hardships when Heyman left ECW, it was a great read. Cons: I also heard about creative ignoring Bad Influence. Back in the wwe, Londrick asked him where their characters were going, he answered, "Taco Bell?". Whatever, he should be in charge of creative, he has more experience and a better track record, than Christy Hemme and Gaburick...idk which one is worse between Hemme and Gaburick. Christy isn't really in creative per say, her main job is image/wardrobe for everybody. Wow had no idea, now I'll stop blaming her for the Brittany and Rayne angle
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Post by the2ndevil on Sept 2, 2014 0:32:01 GMT -5
Back in the wwe, Londrick asked him where their characters were going, he answered, "Taco Bell?". He should have said "White Castle"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 7:57:20 GMT -5
Yeah, I could be totally wrong about this as I don't know who was in charge of what, but I remember when news came out that Russo was leaving during the Hogan era, and that Lagana was taking the lead or a at least a higher role in his place, that coincided with things like the 2012 BFG Series, the resurrection of Samoa Joe's character, and the rise of Austin Aries/the Roode vs. Aries feud. Even the awful Clair Lynch angle was still giving us regular Bad Influence goodness and great AJ matches at the time. Again, I could be totally wrong about his role in that, but that was at least a fun time. Agreed. I think it was with Lagana and Brother Love that things started to get way better creatively in 2012 but I'm not completely sure either. Whoever was booking in 2012 did a great job.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 2, 2014 8:30:33 GMT -5
TNA booking proves too many cooks spoil the broth, whenever one or two guys get control for a while, things pick up, but it never lasts, someone new is brought in as a quick fix and it all goes to hell.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 2, 2014 8:36:06 GMT -5
True. That was probably TNA at their best - especially the Aries/Roode stuff; most of it was gold. I feel like much of the Bad Influence stuff came from the minds of Daniels and Kazarian and not an actual writer, You'd be right there. Daniels said on a podcast post-release (I think it was Stone Colds one) that the TNA writers actively did not pay attention to him and Kaz so there pretty much got free reign. Which makes sense since Bad Influence were pretty much treated like jobbers during their entire existence despite being the best part of the show 9 times out of 10.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 2, 2014 9:02:23 GMT -5
Former WWE writer Court Bauer always buries Lagana for being a terrible writer and being uncreative. That's just a view from someone who was in WWE with him. We shouldn't necessarily take his word as gospel, though. I don't really think WE can really say if he is a good writer or not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 10:45:31 GMT -5
its probably the titties
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Post by Cyno on Sept 2, 2014 11:26:58 GMT -5
Was it him or someone else who is even in TNA due to getting caught leaking information to Meltzer? It was him.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 2, 2014 11:29:27 GMT -5
Was it him or someone else who is even in TNA due to getting caught leaking information to Meltzer? It was him.
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