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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 18, 2016 19:17:23 GMT -5
Houston one now on
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 20:11:59 GMT -5
Damn, everybody assumed the story ended at Albuquerque, but boy... That Anders stuff.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 19, 2016 21:01:15 GMT -5
The next one to air is the one on John Daly and it airs on November 1st
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Post by sfvega on Oct 20, 2016 6:52:22 GMT -5
I think like to play golf, but I think watching it is just painful. Having said that, John Daly is the perfect subject matter for a 30 for 30. One of those crazy flare out athletes, who seems both crazy but also self aware, like Mike Tyson. I can't wait to watch it, I have really high hopes for it. I feel like you could do 6 hours on him and I'd still want to see more.
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Oct 21, 2016 21:31:14 GMT -5
Ah, Phi Slamma Jamma. That's something sorely missing from sports these days: nicknames.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 1, 2016 19:20:55 GMT -5
Daly one now on
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Nov 2, 2016 8:04:37 GMT -5
I have a feeling the Daly one is going to be one they show probably 3 times then its off to ESPN Classic, unlike the U which they show almost every week.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 10:16:10 GMT -5
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 10, 2016 10:47:12 GMT -5
Oh this is going to be awesome.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 10, 2016 11:14:26 GMT -5
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Post by burdette25159 on Nov 10, 2016 16:19:54 GMT -5
But first, we have to get through "Catholics vs convicts" following the Heisman trophy presentation in december
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Post by BRV on Nov 10, 2016 17:04:17 GMT -5
I don't intend to rain on anybody's parade, but I don't exactly have the highest of hopes for the XFL "30 for 30", largely because of ESPN's cozy relationship with WWE. If you're going to fully tell the story of the XFL, you have to tell it in its entirety - warts and all - and that includes plenty of errors and missteps on the part of Vince McMahon. However, because ESPN and WWE are in bed together, I feel like ESPN is going to treat McMahon with kid gloves and place the blame for the league's failures directly at the feet of NBC, the players, and possibly even Lorne Michaels.
If you want a truly unbiased view of the rise and crashing fall of the XFL, pick up a copy of "Long Bomb" by Brett Forrest. It's honest, even, and unapologetic and it pulls no punches when distributing pieces of blame pie.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 10, 2016 17:28:40 GMT -5
I don't think there's enough meat for an entire 30 for 30 there. It's really something more suited for a 30/30 Shorts thing. They did one season, and were largely irrelevant after a few weeks. I know everybody is excited because it's in our wheelhouse, but I think this could be done in 12 minutes and everything else is going to be filler and stylized bullshit.
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Post by BRV on Nov 10, 2016 23:02:35 GMT -5
I don't think there's enough meat for an entire 30 for 30 there. It's really something more suited for a 30/30 Shorts thing. They did one season, and were largely irrelevant after a few weeks. I know everybody is excited because it's in our wheelhouse, but I think this could be done in 12 minutes and everything else is going to be filler and stylized bullshit. No, there's actually quite a story to tell and they could probably fill a full two hours if they wanted to delve into the details of the rise and fall of the XFL. Unfortunately, as I mentioned earlier, that's impossible without shining a harsh light on Vince McMahon and given his cushy relationship with the Worldwide Leader, I feel like he's going to emerge from this documentary relatively unscathed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 23:05:36 GMT -5
I don't think there's enough meat for an entire 30 for 30 there. It's really something more suited for a 30/30 Shorts thing. They did one season, and were largely irrelevant after a few weeks. I know everybody is excited because it's in our wheelhouse, but I think this could be done in 12 minutes and everything else is going to be filler and stylized bullshit. No, there's actually quite a story to tell and they could probably fill a full two hours if they wanted to delve into the details of the rise and fall of the XFL. Unfortunately, as I mentioned earlier, that's impossible without shining a harsh light on Vince McMahon and given his cushy relationship with the Worldwide Leader, I feel like he's going to emerge from this documentary relatively unscathed. Hopefully Vince is reflective and humorous about it like he was in this video
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Post by sfvega on Nov 10, 2016 23:58:00 GMT -5
I don't think there's enough meat for an entire 30 for 30 there. It's really something more suited for a 30/30 Shorts thing. They did one season, and were largely irrelevant after a few weeks. I know everybody is excited because it's in our wheelhouse, but I think this could be done in 12 minutes and everything else is going to be filler and stylized bullshit. No, there's actually quite a story to tell and they could probably fill a full two hours if they wanted to delve into the details of the rise and fall of the XFL. Unfortunately, as I mentioned earlier, that's impossible without shining a harsh light on Vince McMahon and given his cushy relationship with the Worldwide Leader, I feel like he's going to emerge from this documentary relatively unscathed. Lol. Rise and fall? This league was dead 3 weeks in. Actually, once they started playing 2nd rate football, you can chart tons of people losing interest. What rise and fall? It was over almost as soon as it started. If not for the stakes (NBC, Vince, and a lot of money on Spring football), this is subpar subject matter. In the WWE's world, it was a huge deal because of how much money and effort Vince put in. But in the sports world, it came on with a lot of hype and turned people away quickly. It was the Pacquiao/Mayweather of sports leagues. Again, I think it'd make a good Short. Way better than some of the ones they have made. But two hours about this league? Come on. How much of the audience do you think would survive that?
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Nov 11, 2016 9:15:28 GMT -5
I could see a hour long doc on the XFL, first part dealing with the founding of it and deals worked out, the second part with the season with all the debacles like the failed gimmicks and getting on Lorne's bad side when the first game delayed SNL with L JO, and the final act dealing with the aftermath and fallout, maybe even a brief mention of the UFL.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 14:18:01 GMT -5
I don't think there's enough meat for an entire 30 for 30 there. It's really something more suited for a 30/30 Shorts thing. They did one season, and were largely irrelevant after a few weeks. I know everybody is excited because it's in our wheelhouse, but I think this could be done in 12 minutes and everything else is going to be filler and stylized bullshit. The Las Vegas Posse of the CFL is worthy of a short. This would be good IF the underbelly is shown.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 12, 2016 12:37:54 GMT -5
The John Daly one could have been so much better
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 12:49:42 GMT -5
I don't think there's enough meat for an entire 30 for 30 there. It's really something more suited for a 30/30 Shorts thing. They did one season, and were largely irrelevant after a few weeks. I know everybody is excited because it's in our wheelhouse, but I think this could be done in 12 minutes and everything else is going to be filler and stylized bullshit. The Las Vegas Posse of the CFL is worthy of a short. This would be good IF the underbelly is shown. The entire American expansion of the CFL would be a good 2-hour episode. What a mess that was.
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