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Post by sfvega on Nov 30, 2018 2:16:14 GMT -5
Knight was, unsurprisingly, a complete and utter douchebag. So telling that he still has an axe to grind against the people at IU for finally holding him accountable. That they welcome him back and he still feels victimized. What a miserable old bully. Then again, there's no punishment worse for him than having to live his life, being angry and miserable all the time. So in that way, I have closure. I also hope the people that were ok going on camera making death threats are able to look back shamefully and admit they were wrong and stupid. The shit at the end where he’s talking to Dan Patrick and wishing death upon the people in IU who kicked me out was just a moment of Jesus Christ why would people even bother with this man True. And f***in Dick Vitale defending him the whole time as such a nice, contrite guy. I've liked him at times in the past, but the guy is a total sleazebag.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 11, 2018 19:24:29 GMT -5
So tonight's episode is just a hour which seems like a waste
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Post by madness50 on Dec 11, 2018 23:43:44 GMT -5
42 to 1 definitely should have been a two hour show.
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Post by BRV on Jun 15, 2020 15:01:51 GMT -5
I was going to post this in the MLB thread, since that's where everyone is talking about "Long Gone Summer," but since we have a dedicated "30 for 30" thread, I'll bring this thread back from the dead to air my grievances.
Aside from the long-form, multi-episode documentary series (OJ: Made in America, The Last Dance), I'm having a hard time remembering the last time an installment of "30 for 30" was so good, I had to go back and watch it again. I missed "Be Water," so I can't comment on that, but "Lance" did little for me as I found myself zoning in and out as I was watching it live, "Vick" was fine but there wasn't enough material to stretch it into two episodes, "Chuck & Tito" was never going to do it for me as someone who isn't a fan of MMA, and "Rodman: For Better or Worse" was just every Dennis Rodman story we've heard a million times over regurgitated into a single documentary.
I feel like I have to go back to "Seau," which aired in September 2018, for the last time a "30 for 30" really wowed me. And that's a shame, because this was, for a good stretch from 2009 through 2016, producing some of the best sports documentaries ever. But now everything just feels stale, sterile, and generic. It feels like the same homogenized documentary, just with different footage and a different subject depending on the week.
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Post by burdette25159 on Jul 15, 2020 1:52:16 GMT -5
Bump!
A new season of 30 For 30 Podcasts is live
In fact, ALL 7 PARTS of Heavy Medals are up! it deals with the Complicated Legacy of the Karolyis gymastics empire
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Post by burdette25159 on Jan 14, 2021 20:38:48 GMT -5
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Post by Beebs is the Final Girl on Feb 20, 2021 18:28:33 GMT -5
I just watched this one.
It has a neat twist to the way the story is told.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Sept 15, 2021 18:35:31 GMT -5
So they are doing a documents on the 86 Mets, that is fine and all. But when are the 90's Yankees going to get their due.
Watching this documentary, one that irritates, and I hope Met fans feel the same, what are all those Boston guys doing here, Boston fans, Boston players, it is not about them, this is about the Mets.
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Post by madness50 on Sept 16, 2021 1:14:29 GMT -5
Just finished watching the Mets 30 for 30. I can honestly say that I had to turn on the closed captioning for Lenny Dystrka’s sound bites. Other than the four thousand f-bombs he dropped, I didn’t have a clue what he said on there.
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Sept 16, 2021 15:33:09 GMT -5
So they are doing a documents on the 86 Mets, that is fine and all. But when are the 90's Yankees going to get their due. Watching this documentary, one that irritates, and I hope Met fans feel the same, what are all those Boston guys doing here, Boston fans, Boston players, it is not about them, this is about the Mets. The 90s dynasty was great but let's be honest the teams we're boring, unlike the 86 Mets. Like seriously what would a 30 for 30 doc tell us about 96-01 that we don't already know
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 15:05:37 GMT -5
So they are doing a documents on the 86 Mets, that is fine and all. But when are the 90's Yankees going to get their due. Watching this documentary, one that irritates, and I hope Met fans feel the same, what are all those Boston guys doing here, Boston fans, Boston players, it is not about them, this is about the Mets. Also, they already did a documentary about the 86 Red Sox, though it was more of a psychological evaluation regarding the mental toll of Buckner missing the grounder... and how it somehow compared to Bartman catching that ball. If you wanted to do your take of The Last Dance, then at least interview some of the 86 Astros like Ryan, Kerfield, or Knepper cause that NLCS wasn't something to sneeze at, either.
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Post by BRV on Oct 15, 2021 14:15:52 GMT -5
So they are doing a documents on the 86 Mets, that is fine and all. But when are the 90's Yankees going to get their due. Ken Burns' "Baseball: The Tenth Inning" spends entirely too much run time on the 90s Yankees (at least, from this Red Sox fan's perspective), so there's always that.
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Post by bob on Oct 16, 2021 9:35:06 GMT -5
I anticipate the one on Gruden coming out a few years from now
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 16, 2021 22:13:19 GMT -5
I anticipate the one on Gruden coming out a few years from now ESPN exec 1: "We gotta make a Gruden 30 For 30. Who was he working for when he sent those emails? We gotta get those people on record." Exec 2: "He worked for us." Exec 1: "Like I said, nobody wants a Gruden 30 For 30, that story's been told already. What about the Washington Football..." NFL: "Ahem." Exec 1: "Team's great treatment of everybody who's ever worked for them?" NFL: "Exactly."
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Post by Cyno on Oct 19, 2021 11:48:16 GMT -5
I anticipate the one on Gruden coming out a few years from now ESPN exec 1: "We gotta make a Gruden 30 For 30. Who was he working for when he sent those emails? We gotta get those people on record." Exec 2: "He worked for us." Exec 1: "Like I said, nobody wants a Gruden 30 For 30, that story's been told already. What about the Washington Football..." NFL: "Ahem." Exec 1: "Team's great treatment of everybody who's ever worked for them?" NFL: "Exactly." And that's why ESPN likely isn't taking any sort of disciplinary action on Schefter for his blatant violation of journalistic ethics that would get him suspended, if not outright fired, from other news organizations. They're so in bed with the NFL that he probably did it with ESPN's blessing.
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Post by unc40 on Mar 13, 2022 22:26:45 GMT -5
I haven't seen The Tuck Rule episode yet so don't know if it's any good but do remember going to bed early when the game was being played because I though the Raiders had the game won.
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Post by BRV on Feb 11, 2023 22:54:56 GMT -5
I finally finished "Bullies of Baltimore" after multiple starts and stops, and there's a reason why it took me several viewings to get through it: it's quite bad.
"30 for 30" used to be paramount among sports documentaries. It was the signature brand. It allowed independent voices to tell the stories about the teams, athletes, and moments that were overlooked, overshadowed, or forgotten to time. But somewhere along the lines (around when creator Bill Simmons left ESPN in 2015), the quality of "30 for 30" declined rapidly, and I think/hope "Bullies of Baltimore" might have been the nadir.
There was no difference between "Bullies of Baltimore" and the NFL-produced "America's Game" documentary series. It was a 90-minute puff piece about the glory days of the 2000 Baltimore Ravens, with the strangest framing device ever (an on-stage team reunion filmed in Baltimore last May), wherein guys like Shannon Sharpe, Ray Lewis, Trent Dilfer, and Tony Siragusa wax poetic about how funny, cool, and badass they were.
The documentary also hints at how the 2000 Ravens were disliked by the majority of NFL fans, but says that it was because they were brash trash-talkers, ignoring the enormous elephant in the room - the reason NFL fans didn't like them was because of Ray Lewis, who was a few months removed from being charged with murder for a double-stabbing outside of a party in Atlanta. But you wouldn't know that was even an issue, because the totality of the controversy surrounding Ray Lewis gets maybe 90 seconds in the beginning of the documentary and is quickly washed aside until the Super Bowl week discussion when the entire subject was, "We should have been talking about the game, not any outside distractions."
It's just a shame to see how far "30 for 30" has fallen, that it's now league-endorsed hagiographies instead of compelling documentaries like we saw from 2009 through 2015.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 12, 2023 14:48:18 GMT -5
I finally finished "Bullies of Baltimore" after multiple starts and stops, and there's a reason why it took me several viewings to get through it: it's quite bad. "30 for 30" used to be paramount among sports documentaries. It was the signature brand. It allowed independent voices to tell the stories about the teams, athletes, and moments that were overlooked, overshadowed, or forgotten to time. But somewhere along the lines (around when creator Bill Simmons left ESPN in 2015), the quality of "30 for 30" declined rapidly, and I think/hope "Bullies of Baltimore" might have been the nadir. There was no difference between "Bullies of Baltimore" and the NFL-produced "America's Game" documentary series. It was a 90-minute puff piece about the glory days of the 2000 Baltimore Ravens, with the strangest framing device ever (an on-stage team reunion filmed in Baltimore last May), wherein guys like Shannon Sharpe, Ray Lewis, Trent Dilfer, and Tony Siragusa wax poetic about how funny, cool, and badass they were. The documentary also hints at how the 2000 Ravens were disliked by the majority of NFL fans, but says that it was because they were brash trash-talkers, ignoring the enormous elephant in the room - the reason NFL fans didn't like them was because of Ray Lewis, who was a few months removed from being charged with murder for a double-stabbing outside of a party in Atlanta. But you wouldn't know that was even an issue, because the totality of the controversy surrounding Ray Lewis gets maybe 90 seconds in the beginning of the documentary and is quickly washed aside until the Super Bowl week discussion when the entire subject was, "We should have been talking about the game, not any outside distractions." It's just a shame to see how far "30 for 30" has fallen, that it's now league-endorsed hagiographies instead of compelling documentaries like we saw from 2009 through 2015. It has Trent Dilfer also saying QBs today aren't impressive which is rich from a dude who wasn't any good.
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Post by salz4life on Feb 20, 2023 15:30:28 GMT -5
Trent Dilfer is the kind of guy I hate. Guy thinks he's hot s**t for playing on that Ravens team. He had LITTLE to do with why that team achieved what it did. I compare him to Jim McMahon of the 85 Bears. McMahon was just one of the guys and he understood his role. He had a cocky attitude, but IMO, he didn't overestimate himself. He was just a character among of team of characters. Granted, I'm a diehard Bears fan so maybe my view is clouded.
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Post by sfvega on Feb 20, 2023 19:10:01 GMT -5
Trent Dilfer is the kind of guy I hate. Guy thinks he's hot s**t for playing on that Ravens team. He had LITTLE to do with why that team achieved what it did. I compare him to Jim McMahon of the 85 Bears. McMahon was just one of the guys and he understood his role. He had a cocky attitude, but IMO, he didn't overestimate himself. He was just a character among of team of characters. Granted, I'm a diehard Bears fan so maybe my view is clouded. It says something when you're known as hands-down the worst QB to ever win a Super Bowl. Without Sharpe, Dilfer's numbers would be somewhere below trash, for a guy who finished with a 43% career playoff completion percentage.
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