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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 18, 2014 18:07:17 GMT -5
No, Japanese fans feel disrespected when WWE broke out Yoshi Tatsu from cold storage for the Japan tours when they know he didn't do shit before that and won't do shit afterwards. Japanese fans come to see a WWE show, not here's your homeland token. They know who Kenta (now Hideo) is. Calling him by his real name or stage name not going to make a difference. How he's treated year round does. Which WWE is doing great right now.
I find so deliciously ironic is that all the dirt sheet reports for the past couple of years paint Triple H has the savior and protector of the IWC after spending about a decade making him Satan Incarnate. There is a definite narrative of Vince being super out of touch and Hunter the hippest man in the room. But once he insert himself back into angles, the mood changes.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 18, 2014 18:18:33 GMT -5
Maybe its because Vince wanted to own merch rights to the name He still could if he gave the guy a marketable nickname or even last name. But let's be serious for a second, the name Hideo Itami isn't going to cost WWE a single cent if KENTA left. He'd just go back to being KENTA because that's the name he's famous for. Same for Steen, Devitt, even Bryan Danielson, since everyone via Total Divas who is casual knows that's his name now anyway. It's not like it's a gimmick like The Undertaker wherein the entire thing is a marketed character and property. Or even great 1980's and 1990's names like The Ultimate Warrior, Demolition, Stone Cold or The Rock. Hideo Itami means nothing. And I will never understand why WWE goes to the lengths it does to trademark flat meaningless names that unlike previous eras, are not marquee, memorable, and often sound like some 40 year old's idiot millennial kid. That said, there is a lot of truth to this story. During the NXT conference call HHH did a lot of damage control before ultimately conceding (sadly) that this name shit is WWE's current policy. The good news is, it won't be forever. HHH is from a generation that would find it an insult to change established guys names. Imagine his heroes Harley Race or Flair coming up today and the horseshit they'd be saddled with. It'll end with Vince. Or Junior McLupton as he'd be known by himself if he came up today.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Sept 18, 2014 18:30:15 GMT -5
Its funny that Vince wants everyone to have new names and yet his main event feud at the next PPV consists of two guys that use their own name.
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Post by Perd on Sept 18, 2014 18:47:51 GMT -5
If could be worse, the other option was Terry Aki.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Sept 18, 2014 18:54:33 GMT -5
Why couldn't they just keep it? Because Vince knows better than to mess with a Brazilian tech company? Word Mark KENTA Goods and Services IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: Provision of consultancy and advisory services in information technology, software development, computer systems programming, and computer systems operation analysis Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS Design Search Code 26.05.13 - Triangles, exactly two triangles; Two triangles 26.05.21 - Triangles that are completely or partially shaded 26.05.25 - Triangles with one or more curved sides Serial Number 85723107 Filing Date September 7, 2012 Current Basis 44E Original Filing Basis 44E Published for Opposition July 9, 2013 Registration Number 4405796 Registration Date September 24, 2013 Owner (REGISTRANT) KENTA INFORMATICA LTDA. LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY BRAZIL Riachuelo St. 1098/1201 Post Code 90.010-272 Porto Alegre BRAZIL Attorney of Record Barbara H. Loewenthal Description of Mark Color is not claimed as a feature of the mark. The mark consists of the word "KENTA" in a stylized font, with two triangular designs alongside the letter "K". Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 18, 2014 19:00:17 GMT -5
Why couldn't they just keep it? Because Vince knows better than to mess with a Brazilian tech company? Word Mark KENTA Goods and Services IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: Provision of consultancy and advisory services in information technology, software development, computer systems programming, and computer systems operation analysis Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS Design Search Code 26.05.13 - Triangles, exactly two triangles; Two triangles 26.05.21 - Triangles that are completely or partially shaded 26.05.25 - Triangles with one or more curved sides Serial Number 85723107 Filing Date September 7, 2012 Current Basis 44E Original Filing Basis 44E Published for Opposition July 9, 2013 Registration Number 4405796 Registration Date September 24, 2013 Owner (REGISTRANT) KENTA INFORMATICA LTDA. LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY BRAZIL Riachuelo St. 1098/1201 Post Code 90.010-272 Porto Alegre BRAZIL Attorney of Record Barbara H. Loewenthal Description of Mark Color is not claimed as a feature of the mark. The mark consists of the word "KENTA" in a stylized font, with two triangular designs alongside the letter "K". Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE MiLB Fan with the patented trademark info.
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Post by mizerable on Sept 18, 2014 19:00:47 GMT -5
Because Vince knows better than to mess with a Brazilian tech company? Word Mark KENTA Goods and Services IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: Provision of consultancy and advisory services in information technology, software development, computer systems programming, and computer systems operation analysis Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS Design Search Code 26.05.13 - Triangles, exactly two triangles; Two triangles 26.05.21 - Triangles that are completely or partially shaded 26.05.25 - Triangles with one or more curved sides Serial Number 85723107 Filing Date September 7, 2012 Current Basis 44E Original Filing Basis 44E Published for Opposition July 9, 2013 Registration Number 4405796 Registration Date September 24, 2013 Owner (REGISTRANT) KENTA INFORMATICA LTDA. LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY BRAZIL Riachuelo St. 1098/1201 Post Code 90.010-272 Porto Alegre BRAZIL Attorney of Record Barbara H. Loewenthal Description of Mark Color is not claimed as a feature of the mark. The mark consists of the word "KENTA" in a stylized font, with two triangular designs alongside the letter "K". Type of Mark SERVICE MARKRegister PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 19:01:14 GMT -5
I get the logic that they want the rights for merch, but how many Hideo Itami shirts and action figures are they really going to produce once he is no longer with the company?
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Sept 18, 2014 19:02:27 GMT -5
To be honest, I never liked the KENTA name, and it was only given to him so NOAH audiences wouldn't confuse his name with Kenta Kobashi, so eh, whatever.
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 18, 2014 20:08:18 GMT -5
Same reasons they changed El Mistico to Sin Cara I assume
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Post by Milkman Norm on Sept 18, 2014 20:09:32 GMT -5
Just getting his name to not be Kamikaze Tinipipi was probably a win for HHH.
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Post by angryfan on Sept 18, 2014 20:17:09 GMT -5
No, Japanese fans feel disrespected when WWE broke out Yoshi Tatsu from cold storage for the Japan tours when they know he didn't do shit before that and won't do shit afterwards. Japanese fans come to see a WWE show, not here's your homeland token. They know who Kenta (now Hideo) is. Calling him by his real name or stage name not going to make a difference. How he's treated year round does. Which WWE is doing great right now. I find so deliciously ironic is that all the dirt sheet reports for the past couple of years paint Triple H has the savior and protector of the IWC after spending about a decade making him Satan Incarnate. There is a definite narrative of Vince being super out of touch and Hunter the hippest man in the room. But once he insert himself back into angles, the mood changes. Dude, that's just separation of character from real person. I see what's done with NXT, I see a definite old school territory vibe, and I know that Trips is an NWA guy at his core. We heard stories for years about him being a big fan of the history of wrestling, and all that, and I can see it. The thing is, that stuff is separate from the "I am the Game-uh" 20 minute promos and not showing weakness in the ring. He's not the only one either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 20:20:20 GMT -5
No, Japanese fans feel disrespected when WWE broke out Yoshi Tatsu from cold storage for the Japan tours when they know he didn't do shit before that and won't do shit afterwards. Japanese fans come to see a WWE show, not here's your homeland token. They know who Kenta (now Hideo) is. Calling him by his real name or stage name not going to make a difference. How he's treated year round does. Which WWE is doing great right now. I find so deliciously ironic is that all the dirt sheet reports for the past couple of years paint Triple H has the savior and protector of the IWC after spending about a decade making him Satan Incarnate. There is a definite narrative of Vince being super out of touch and Hunter the hippest man in the room. But once he insert himself back into angles, the mood changes. Dude, that's just separation of character from real person. I see what's done with NXT, I see a definite old school territory vibe, and I know that Trips is an NWA guy at his core. We heard stories for years about him being a big fan of the history of wrestling, and all that, and I can see it. The thing is, that stuff is separate from the "I am the Game-uh" 20 minute promos and not showing weakness in the ring. He's not the only one either. Yeah, far from the only booker to put on some great stuff but being awful about getting too much TV time himself. See Dusty Rhodes inventing a cage match battle royal tournament entirely so he could win it four years in a row.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 18, 2014 20:26:22 GMT -5
No, Japanese fans feel disrespected when WWE broke out Yoshi Tatsu from cold storage for the Japan tours when they know he didn't do shit before that and won't do shit afterwards. Japanese fans come to see a WWE show, not here's your homeland token. They know who Kenta (now Hideo) is. Calling him by his real name or stage name not going to make a difference. How he's treated year round does. Which WWE is doing great right now. I find so deliciously ironic is that all the dirt sheet reports for the past couple of years paint Triple H has the savior and protector of the IWC after spending about a decade making him Satan Incarnate. There is a definite narrative of Vince being super out of touch and Hunter the hippest man in the room. But once he insert himself back into angles, the mood changes. Dude, that's just separation of character from real person. I see what's done with NXT, I see a definite old school territory vibe, and I know that Trips is an NWA guy at his core. We heard stories for years about him being a big fan of the history of wrestling, and all that, and I can see it. The thing is, that stuff is separate from the "I am the Game-uh" 20 minute promos and not showing weakness in the ring. He's not the only one either. People have a real problem separating the character from the person. If it wasn't for his tremendous work reshaping developmental and creating NXT, people would still be calling for his head. Even then when he put himself into the Daniel Bryan saga, folks were waiting for him to "bury" Bryan and take his shine away. When he used classic heel tactics to draw sympathy for Bryan and heat for himself, people saw that as a sign he was going to ruin everything "because that what the Game does best".
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Sept 18, 2014 20:44:06 GMT -5
Could've been worse, if Kevin Dunn got his way, KENTA would've been called Japp Sushison.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Sept 18, 2014 20:45:03 GMT -5
He'll discover his African roots and be renamed Kunta Kenta
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 18, 2014 20:45:58 GMT -5
99% of WWE renamings are shit.
They are just too bland, and sell the wrestler short.
They don't even give them nicknames to go along with their names, which would be a big help for marketing purposes
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Post by ededdneddy on Sept 18, 2014 20:53:39 GMT -5
Okay Vince Seriously....no disrespect but please.......GTFO!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 21:02:22 GMT -5
Maybe its because Vince wanted to own merch rights to the name He still could if he gave the guy a marketable nickname or even last name. But let's be serious for a second, the name Hideo Itami isn't going to cost WWE a single cent if KENTA left. He'd just go back to being KENTA because that's the name he's famous for. Same for Steen, Devitt, even Bryan Danielson, since everyone via Total Divas who is casual knows that's his name now anyway. It's not like it's a gimmick like The Undertaker wherein the entire thing is a marketed character and property. Or even great 1980's and 1990's names like The Ultimate Warrior, Demolition, Stone Cold or The Rock. Hideo Itami means nothing. And I will never understand why WWE goes to the lengths it does to trademark flat meaningless names that unlike previous eras, are not marquee, memorable, and often sound like some 40 year old's idiot millennial kid. That said, there is a lot of truth to this story. During the NXT conference call HHH did a lot of damage control before ultimately conceding (sadly) that this name shit is WWE's current policy. The good news is, it won't be forever. HHH is from a generation that would find it an insult to change established guys names. Imagine his heroes Harley Race or Flair coming up today and the horseshit they'd be saddled with. It'll end with Vince. Or Junior McLupton as he'd be known by himself if he came up today. Yeah, I don't get it either. I could understand trademarking a nickname or blatant stage name that a wrestler goes by (Stone Cold, Ultimate Warrior, etc), but to come up with a fake real name just so they could trademark it is absurd. I mean, is "Seth Rollins" for example really necessary instead of a name he would more recognized as by at least a small portion of the fanbase? What difference would it make if he were Tyler Black instead? Just to avoid having Rollins profit from that name if/when he left? It's stupid and very unfair to the talent. If you're going to change his name, why name him something so ordinary like a fake real name? CM Punk was amazingly fortunate to be able to keep his name. If he debuted today, I don't think Brook Phillips would have made the same impact.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 18, 2014 21:17:50 GMT -5
Same reasons they changed El Mistico to Sin Cara I assume No, that they had to change. The Mistico name and gimmick is owned by the Mexican company he worked for.
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