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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 14, 2014 21:35:33 GMT -5
Adding to the Torn ACL List, Knowshon Moreno apparently tore his ACL in the Miami/Green Bay game, effectively ending his season and a dismal first year in Miami plagued with Injuries And here I thought I got a steal when I got him off Waivers last week, damn it all... I wouldn't be shocked to see him back in Denver next year on a team friendly 1, maybe 2 year deal. Gotta think Hillman is gone and it is going to take a miracle for Ball to regain the trust he's lost so this would give Peyton a guy he knows can deliver while they test out Bibbs, CJ and Thompson. Yeah, and barring injury or just massive downswing I think Lamar Miller's got the starting duties on complete lock
As for me, time to do some RB Shuffling, switching Matt Asiata for McKinnon if I can, and if possible dumping Knowshon for Shane Vereen of the Pats, who hopefully will get more carries and pass downs now that Ridley is out for the year.
Other tempting backs in the FA pool if I fail to get either of those: Darren McFadden, Jeremy Hill, or Antone Smith. McFadden with the workload since MJD has proven useless, Hill and Smith getting points but the lack of attempts makes them pretty boom or bust until otherwise...
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Post by The Lach is very tired on Oct 15, 2014 1:33:25 GMT -5
This man could be coming to a gridiron near you. Massive news story in my part of the world today. His name is Jarryd Hayne, he has won the league's MVP award twice (including the season just finished). This is the equivalent of Tom Brady, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning quitting the NFL in the prime of their career to go & try to play soccer in the English Premier League. I'm devastated as he plays for my team. Link to the news story
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 15, 2014 3:02:36 GMT -5
This man could be coming to a gridiron near you. Massive news story in my part of the world today. His name is Jarryd Hayne, he has won the league's MVP award twice (including the season just finished). This is the equivalent of Tom Brady, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning quitting the NFL in the prime of their career to go & try to play soccer in the English Premier League. I'm devastated as he plays for my team. Link to the news storyInteresting, I wonder if he'd play this year. He has a lot of explosiveness, I assume he'll play either WR or RB. I see quite a few teams at least taking a show, especially ones maybe trying to get their records looking a bit better
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Post by The Lach is very tired on Oct 15, 2014 3:22:27 GMT -5
This man could be coming to a gridiron near you. Massive news story in my part of the world today. His name is Jarryd Hayne, he has won the league's MVP award twice (including the season just finished). This is the equivalent of Tom Brady, Drew Brees or Peyton Manning quitting the NFL in the prime of their career to go & try to play soccer in the English Premier League. I'm devastated as he plays for my team. Link to the news storyInteresting, I wonder if he'd play this year. He has a lot of explosiveness, I assume he'll play either WR or RB. I see quite a few teams at least taking a show, especially ones maybe trying to get their records looking a bit better From what I understand he isn't looking to play this season. He is heading over to train with the view of making a team next season. He is 6'2" and 220lbs I think he is looking to start off on special teams & then progressing to RB.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 11:26:12 GMT -5
Report from ESPN that Hoyer won't resign long term if Manziel is still on the team Ha! Good for him. He doesn't deserve to be second banana to Manziel. Hoyer is a proven QB who makes good decisions on the field, doesn't make a lot of drama, and is a hometown guy. You never let someone like that walk unless they ask for way too much money. And I wouldn't dare start Manziel over him. If we get a whole season of this Brian Hoyer, and they don't pay him what he's worth and are still thinking about Manziel, myself and a lot of fans will be furious. He's stabilized the whole damn franchise this year. That said, as we do in the wrestling sections, I'm calling newz on this whole thing. Hoyer never said that publicly, Manziel's been a non-factor and the media loves them some Johnny Football controversy, so it was time to break out "well what about Manziel?" once the Browns are actually playing well. They probably had it lying in wait, an ace up their sleeve so to speak. What I'd do, sign Hoyer for 3 years and assure him the starting job, keep Manziel and tell him to sit and learn, if Manziel doesn't like it, trade him. There will always be more quarterbacks, there's a draft every year.
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Post by ibdude on Oct 15, 2014 11:37:09 GMT -5
Tell me what you think is so bad about the dome. There is no atmosphere whatsoever, it resembles a warehouse and on game day comes across as dead on TV whereas other stadiums are vibrant. I can argue the original turf shortened a good amount of careers. The seats are red in spite of the fact our colors are blue and gold. By modern day indoor stadiums standards, it is a full decade or two behind. SI rated it 31st on terms of Gameday experience and it draws no Super Bowl or any College teams aside from Missouri and Illinois years ago and even then there is no other venue in St. Louis to do it in aside from Busch. City sucks, stadium sucks, team sucks. We may deserve it for our shit play since 2004 but we don't have to take it. I'm fed up with road games against the Packers, Bears and Cowboys in OUR OWN f***ING BUILDING. This franchise is a joke until we get new coaches and a new city. I remember in Georgia's last year they seriously had to get a live band to fire up the crowd during a game, pathetic. City sucks? You didn't have to go there. I don't talk about your town like that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 11:56:36 GMT -5
Ha! Good for him. He doesn't deserve to be second banana to Manziel. Hoyer is a proven QB who makes good decisions on the field, doesn't make a lot of drama, and is a hometown guy. You never let someone like that walk unless they ask for way too much money. And I wouldn't dare start Manziel over him. If we get a whole season of this Brian Hoyer, and they don't pay him what he's worth and are still thinking about Manziel, myself and a lot of fans will be furious. He's stabilized the whole damn franchise this year. That said, as we do in the wrestling sections, I'm calling newz on this whole thing. Hoyer never said that publicly, Manziel's been a non-factor and the media loves them some Johnny Football controversy, so it was time to break out "well what about Manziel?" once the Browns are actually playing well. They probably had it lying in wait, an ace up their sleeve so to speak. What I'd do, sign Hoyer for 3 years and assure him the starting job, keep Manziel and tell him to sit and learn, if Manziel doesn't like it, trade him. There will always be more quarterbacks, there's a draft every year. I hope the whole "Starting Manziel" news isn't true. As well as Hoyer has played, it shouldn't even be an ongoing conversation. The Browns would do well to keep him--there really isn't a better guy for their town or for their franchise. Adding him on to what was already a solid team has made them competitive in one of the toughest divisions in the NFL (the Steelers are the weakest team by far, but overall aren't bad). There is no atmosphere whatsoever, it resembles a warehouse and on game day comes across as dead on TV whereas other stadiums are vibrant. I can argue the original turf shortened a good amount of careers. The seats are red in spite of the fact our colors are blue and gold. By modern day indoor stadiums standards, it is a full decade or two behind. SI rated it 31st on terms of Gameday experience and it draws no Super Bowl or any College teams aside from Missouri and Illinois years ago and even then there is no other venue in St. Louis to do it in aside from Busch. City sucks, stadium sucks, team sucks. We may deserve it for our shit play since 2004 but we don't have to take it. I'm fed up with road games against the Packers, Bears and Cowboys in OUR OWN f***ING BUILDING. This franchise is a joke until we get new coaches and a new city. I remember in Georgia's last year they seriously had to get a live band to fire up the crowd during a game, pathetic. City sucks? You didn't have to go there. I don't talk about your town like that. The city does kind of suck, at least, as a football city. St Louis is a baseball town. That's its pedigree and the Cardinals are inseparable from the sports culture. Compare KC. The Chiefs haven't been a consistently good team in years, but that doesn't stop the crowd at Arrowhead from erupting into a Tomahawk Chop before games. You don't get that kind of zeal at Rams games. Now, Indianapolis isn't a football city either, but the combination of Lucas Oil Stadium and a great team entices a lot of people to go to games and bolster the franchise's coffers. The Colts have compensated for a relatively uninterested market by going out of their way to make fans care, and it's worked. But the Rams don't have those advantages--neither a good venue nor a great team--and they're teetering on the edge of going elsewhere. If a city doesn't want a team, that's the city's fault, and maybe the team moving will teach them not to take that kind of stuff for granted. Baltimore snubbed the Colts, who went to Indy, and moaned until the former Browns showed up in purple. Fans learned the lesson, and the Ravens have a pretty dedicated fanbase to this day (it kind of helps that Baltimore is a big football town, but even so, that didn't stop bad conditions from causing the Colts to relocate).
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Post by ibdude on Oct 15, 2014 12:14:24 GMT -5
If we get a whole season of this Brian Hoyer, and they don't pay him what he's worth and are still thinking about Manziel, myself and a lot of fans will be furious. He's stabilized the whole damn franchise this year. That said, as we do in the wrestling sections, I'm calling newz on this whole thing. Hoyer never said that publicly, Manziel's been a non-factor and the media loves them some Johnny Football controversy, so it was time to break out "well what about Manziel?" once the Browns are actually playing well. They probably had it lying in wait, an ace up their sleeve so to speak. What I'd do, sign Hoyer for 3 years and assure him the starting job, keep Manziel and tell him to sit and learn, if Manziel doesn't like it, trade him. There will always be more quarterbacks, there's a draft every year. I hope the whole "Starting Manziel" news isn't true. As well as Hoyer has played, it shouldn't even be an ongoing conversation. The Browns would do well to keep him--there really isn't a better guy for their town or for their franchise. Adding him on to what was already a solid team has made them competitive in one of the toughest divisions in the NFL (the Steelers are the weakest team by far, but overall aren't bad). City sucks? You didn't have to go there. I don't talk about your town like that. The city does kind of suck, at least, as a football city. St Louis is a baseball town. That's its pedigree and the Cardinals are inseparable from the sports culture. Compare KC. The Chiefs haven't been a consistently good team in years, but that doesn't stop the crowd at Arrowhead from erupting into a Tomahawk Chop before games. You don't get that kind of zeal at Rams games. Now, Indianapolis isn't a football city either, but the combination of Lucas Oil Stadium and a great team entices a lot of people to go to games and bolster the franchise's coffers. The Colts have compensated for a relatively uninterested market by going out of their way to make fans care, and it's worked. But the Rams don't have those advantages--neither a good venue nor a great team--and they're teetering on the edge of going elsewhere. If a city doesn't want a team, that's the city's fault, and maybe the team moving will teach them not to take that kind of stuff for granted. Baltimore snubbed the Colts, who went to Indy, and moaned until the former Browns showed up in purple. Fans learned the lesson, and the Ravens have a pretty dedicated fanbase to this day (it kind of helps that Baltimore is a big football town, but even so, that didn't stop bad conditions from causing the Colts to relocate). But St. Louis does love the Rams. We just don't wanna support 10 years of shit on the field. The Chiefs have been in the playoffs three in that 11 year period. I'm pretty sure that many fanbases won't come to games if there are 10 straight years of losing seasons. But see we're talking like attendance is going to be the reason the Rams leave. I really think of they leave it's going to be whether Stan Kroenke can get a city to bend over backwards and be his bitch so he can get a sweetheart deal top build his own stadium wherever he goes and the city will have to foot the bill. That I don't like.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 15, 2014 12:57:04 GMT -5
I think playing in Domes is crap anyway. Football is meant to be played in the elements I'll agree with one caveat. Those extreme cold weather stadiums like Minnesota and Green Bay, they can get away with a retractable dome. Lets face it, nobody should be running around outside in -30 degree wind chill temps playing a game, let alone fans having to sit in the stadium. Other than that absolutely. Seriously why does a team like Atlanta or New Orleans need a dome? Honestly, with how much of an issue dehydration can be for football players, I'd argue the consistently hot and humid towns like Atlanta and New Orleans need the domes as much as the extreme cold weather cities like Minneapolis and Green Bay.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Oct 15, 2014 13:40:02 GMT -5
I hope the whole "Starting Manziel" news isn't true. As well as Hoyer has played, it shouldn't even be an ongoing conversation. The Browns would do well to keep him--there really isn't a better guy for their town or for their franchise. Adding him on to what was already a solid team has made them competitive in one of the toughest divisions in the NFL (the Steelers are the weakest team by far, but overall aren't bad). The city does kind of suck, at least, as a football city. St Louis is a baseball town. That's its pedigree and the Cardinals are inseparable from the sports culture. Compare KC. The Chiefs haven't been a consistently good team in years, but that doesn't stop the crowd at Arrowhead from erupting into a Tomahawk Chop before games. You don't get that kind of zeal at Rams games. Now, Indianapolis isn't a football city either, but the combination of Lucas Oil Stadium and a great team entices a lot of people to go to games and bolster the franchise's coffers. The Colts have compensated for a relatively uninterested market by going out of their way to make fans care, and it's worked. But the Rams don't have those advantages--neither a good venue nor a great team--and they're teetering on the edge of going elsewhere. If a city doesn't want a team, that's the city's fault, and maybe the team moving will teach them not to take that kind of stuff for granted. Baltimore snubbed the Colts, who went to Indy, and moaned until the former Browns showed up in purple. Fans learned the lesson, and the Ravens have a pretty dedicated fanbase to this day (it kind of helps that Baltimore is a big football town, but even so, that didn't stop bad conditions from causing the Colts to relocate). But St. Louis does love the Rams. We just don't wanna support 10 years of shit on the field. The Chiefs have been in the playoffs three in that 11 year period. I'm pretty sure that many fanbases won't come to games if there are 10 straight years of losing seasons. But see we're talking like attendance is going to be the reason the Rams leave. I really think of they leave it's going to be whether Stan Kroenke can get a city to bend over backwards and be his bitch so he can get a sweetheart deal top build his own stadium wherever he goes and the city will have to foot the bill. That I don't like. Then why are we playing road games in St. Louis every time we play the Bears, Packers or Cowboys? You people let that happen.
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Post by bluemeii on Oct 15, 2014 14:06:05 GMT -5
I'll agree with one caveat. Those extreme cold weather stadiums like Minnesota and Green Bay, they can get away with a retractable dome. Lets face it, nobody should be running around outside in -30 degree wind chill temps playing a game, let alone fans having to sit in the stadium. Other than that absolutely. Seriously why does a team like Atlanta or New Orleans need a dome? Honestly, with how much of an issue dehydration can be for football players, I'd argue the consistently hot and humid towns like Atlanta and New Orleans need the domes as much as the extreme cold weather cities like Minneapolis and Green Bay. Honestly thought about it more. I'm more thinking about the 60 plus thousand fans that show up more than anything. To me football is supposed to be in the elements, but that doesn't mean you gotta risk hypothermia to watch a game. Things like weather and temperature ( or altitude )are part of a team's home field advantage. In reference to St. Louis and it's football future. I honestly don't see one with the Rams. Sure as a whole the city might be supportive of the team, but the problem is they only show up when it's a winning team. That's not conducive to keeping a team when it's got opt out options and cities ready to take them. This will be the 2nd relocated team to St. Louis that has left in the past 30 years. Maybe instead of getting someone else's team they would be better with a real expansion franchise down the road. I mean the Cardinals were there for what...25 plus years. Maybe it's the town they moved from, Chicago, but even following the game as I was growing up in the non existent instant media of today, it never felt like "their" team. Always an also ran playing 2nd fiddle to the baseball team. I get the same feeling with the Rams...hell I still call them the LA Rams sometimes. Serperate thought here though. Was looking at the schedules for the AFC teams. It's looking more and more like it will take 11 wins to make the playoffs as a wild card this year. The East and South are so putrid they are going to pad the West and North's records. (West plays the East this year and North plays the South). I can see some combination of 4 getting to 11 wins (or 10 in the case of Cincy because of the tie) between Denver, San Diego, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Cleveland and Kansas City. Anyone have thoughts on this? I really think a 10 win team in the AFC is sitting at home this year.
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Post by ibdude on Oct 15, 2014 14:31:31 GMT -5
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I'm starting to think that Kroenke is sabotaging the team so they CAN get the hell outta here. I'm really starting to.
For those getting on the Rams fans for not going to the games. Would you go to your favorite teams' games if they had a decade long of futility like the Rams have?
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Post by bluemeii on Oct 15, 2014 14:42:14 GMT -5
Absolutely I would go. Football is event entertainment. You only get 8 games a year. That's why people show up hours early and do the whole tailgaiting thing. It's an experience. Not just the game itself. 8 days out of the 365. Not like the NBA or NHL where you've got 40 plus a year or MLB where it's 81.
It's why some teams have decades long waiting lists just to get tickets. I don't believe that St. Louis has a big emotional investment in their football team as an entire city. The baseball team, yes, not the football team because it's not "theirs".
Also I wouldn't call the last decade for the Rams putrid. Yeah no playoff spots and no winning seasons. Putrid is what's going on with Oakland and Buffalo. There's kids in Oakland that are going to be teenagers soon that don't know what a winning season for their football team is. Let alone the absolute mess their front office has been. Hell half the kids in Buffalo high schools have been born AND lost their virginity without experiencing a playoff game.
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Post by thetower52 on Oct 15, 2014 15:24:28 GMT -5
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I'm starting to think that Kroenke is sabotaging the team so they CAN get the hell outta here. I'm really starting to. For those getting on the Rams fans for not going to the games. Would you go to your favorite teams' games if they had a decade long of futility like the Rams have? I don't h e football here but yes I would. I sat through the jail blazer era for f*** sakes. And I'm a raider fan, I'd go to there games if I was in oakland
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Post by Toxik916 on Oct 15, 2014 15:38:37 GMT -5
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I'm starting to think that Kroenke is sabotaging the team so they CAN get the hell outta here. I'm really starting to. For those getting on the Rams fans for not going to the games. Would you go to your favorite teams' games if they had a decade long of futility like the Rams have? I'm a Sacramento Kings fan. I know all about going to games and watching a shitty product. Hell even as a Niner fan I was at Candlestick watching our team go 2-14 and a season ticket holder during the Mike Nolan and Singletary years.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 15, 2014 18:07:30 GMT -5
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Post by Unocal 76 on Oct 15, 2014 23:59:17 GMT -5
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I'm starting to think that Kroenke is sabotaging the team so they CAN get the hell outta here. I'm really starting to. For those getting on the Rams fans for not going to the games. Would you go to your favorite teams' games if they had a decade long of futility like the Rams have? I don't h e football here but yes I would. I sat through the jail blazer era for f*** sakes. And I'm a raider fan, I'd go to there games if I was in oakland At least the Jail Blazers actually could win games here and there.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Oct 16, 2014 0:01:41 GMT -5
Fantasy dilemmas:
Do I start Frank Gore or Chris Ivory this week?
And I have a WR/RB/TE situation: Steve Smith, Edelman, Garcon, Hopkins, Martellus Bennett. 5 guys, 1 spot.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 16, 2014 2:00:46 GMT -5
Fantasy dilemmas: Do I start Frank Gore or Chris Ivory this week? And I have a WR/RB/TE situation: Steve Smith, Edelman, Garcon, Hopkins, Martellus Bennett. 5 guys, 1 spot. I have to think that of the two of them, Ivory is in better shape due to Gore losing carries to Hyde at the goal line, and Chris Johnson looking like shit. Problem is, this is a game the Jets could fall behind big early, and if that happens, the run will be abandoned. Really it's a coin toss
As for the other spot? Steve Smith. He is tearing it up in Baltimore and I don't see any reason that wont continue.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 16, 2014 2:15:26 GMT -5
Fantasy Question. Wide Recievers. One Spot, Four Guys.
Larry Fitzgerald, Torrey Smith, Marques Colston or James Jones?
I have about every Fantasy Spot locked for my team this week except one, the WR2 Spot, which has belonged to Larry all year at my own expense, so lets see what we're looking at here
Larry finally broke out and looked like Larry Fitzgerald after mediocre week after mediocre week, getting his first Touchdown and his first big line. It could be argued Palmer coming back helped, but Palmer only threw to him once week one, so it's a bit iffy. Oakland, for being an 0-5 team has given up the 11th most points to WR's, but Oakland has been pretty bad this year regardless on Defense, and Larry could find the space and time to get a TD and have a good week coming off last week.
James Jones has actually been a huge bright spot for Oakland since the start of the year, only really having one bad stat line in the PPR league. Arizona has given up the second most points to WR's so far, and yeah for as good as Arizona has been this year that's a tempting stat. However, with the emergence of Holmes, one has to wonder if it will cut into Jones value, but in the end they'll be throwing a ton with Carr in what should be a close game, the question is, is James good enough to start over Fitz in the matchup?
Colston is there but he's not really above the other ones currently. The only reason Im considering him is the supposed expanded role he will get with Jimmy Graham hurt. Problem is, Jimmy was hurt before this year and Colston didn't do anything with it. Colston is the supposed Number 1 on the Team hasn't looked very good, from a goose egg in Cleveland to pretty miserable stats all year, Colston is basically a bench holder right now, and Detiots D isn't giving me much confidence to start him even IF he gets an expanded role...
Torrey Smith was like Larry last week, he finally exploded, catching 2 Touchdowns as Baltimore completely upended Tampa. Atlanta's weak D is more on the run side of things, but they can be beat through the air. Steve Smith has clearly taken over the Number 1 WR Duties here, but they want to get Smith involved, and they actually delivered, the question is if they can keep it up.
So what do you guys think? Out of the four, who looks the best?
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