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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 29, 2014 16:04:34 GMT -5
I...I just...
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Post by MiLB Fan on Sept 29, 2014 16:05:30 GMT -5
Imagine if WWE did this in 1991. They could have a shirt with Roddy Piper and Bobby Heenan on the front, and "Hey Boobs!" on the back.
(Watch SummerSlam '91 if you don't get it.)
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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 29, 2014 16:09:33 GMT -5
I never knew that raising awareness for something like Breast Cancer was such a bad thing. You'd think a pink shirt robbed some people in here. Again, not about the actual awareness, but rather then method and organization. It's like giving a man dying of thirst a bunch of salt water, and getting offended when he refuses to drink.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 29, 2014 16:13:43 GMT -5
...you people make me wonder why I ever bother to check in on this board. I really hope this assessment doesn't include me at all - my only issue is with breast cancer campaigns that focus only on 'hey look tits are fun, let's save them,' which has all sorts of its own problems. I love that WWE does so much charity work, and I'm pretty horrified at the people who are unironically complaining about pink ring ropes and shirts that make virtually no difference to the show whatsoever.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Sept 29, 2014 16:19:44 GMT -5
...you people make me wonder why I ever bother to check in on this board. I really hope this assessment doesn't include me at all - my only issue is with breast cancer campaigns that focus only on 'hey look tits are fun, let's save them,' which has all sorts of its own problems. I love that WWE does so much charity work, and I'm pretty horrified at the people who are unironically complaining about pink ring ropes and shirts that make virtually no difference to the show whatsoever. But why? It's a "fun" way to create awareness and get more men involved. Obviously it sounds silly but it's for a good cause, what harm is it doing?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 16:24:54 GMT -5
I feel bad for people that own pink Del Rio shirts. Hopefully those are tucked really far back into the closet or preferably burned at a designated disposal area.
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Post by Boo! on Sept 29, 2014 16:26:44 GMT -5
My problem is that companies who could make a difference ignore male health campaigns, those who point it out get told they're wrong for doing so.
Why not just pretend that only women get sick? Oh wait - we kinda already do. Sorry I think it's ridiculous that so many young male fans are dying because of ignorance and yet the one company that could make a difference to them focuses their only health awareness campaign on a disease that effects predominantly women much, much older than the demographic. One that already gets heaps of mainstream attention.
So things that are targeted at women focuses on female health issues and those targeted at young men - also concentrate on female health issues. It's not sexist to point this out and ask when male-focused entertainment companies will actually start targeting a demographic with an awareness campaign they can actually make a real difference to. Prostate cancer, testicular cancer are routinely ignored in favour of promoting women's issues often when doing so makes very difference in-comparison to what focus on male health issues could achieve.
It wouldn't be an issue if ignorance among men of their own health issues wasn't terrifyingly high. The fact it is makes constant overlooking of campaigns that could make a difference all the more shameful, IMO. I'm not expecting The View to do a testicular cancer awareness week. But things like sports/wrestling/guy stuff really should.
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Post by Kaysie on Sept 29, 2014 16:33:26 GMT -5
I hope you guys realize that men can get breast cancer too....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 16:35:19 GMT -5
If Komen isn’t your charity of choice or if you think causes other than breast cancer deserve more things like this then fine. However, if even ONE person in the world gets themselves checked out because of this campaign then it was totally worth it.
Sorry, but some wrestling fans complaining that wrestlers might have to wear a different color shirt for a few weeks or that 5 minutes of their 180 minute wrestling show might be taken up by breast cancer awareness videos is completely unimportant in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by edgestar on Sept 29, 2014 16:37:29 GMT -5
It doesn't bother me when they go pink. If something like that gives hope to anyone with any type of cancer, or if it makes any man or woman decide to be checked for any cancer, then I would support it.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 29, 2014 16:47:22 GMT -5
I really hope this assessment doesn't include me at all - my only issue is with breast cancer campaigns that focus only on 'hey look tits are fun, let's save them,' which has all sorts of its own problems. I love that WWE does so much charity work, and I'm pretty horrified at the people who are unironically complaining about pink ring ropes and shirts that make virtually no difference to the show whatsoever. But why? It's a "fun" way to create awareness and get more men involved. Obviously it sounds silly but it's for a good cause, what harm is it doing? For one thing there's the fact that it's hilariously objectifying of women, which I think is harmful. But if you don't want to bite on that, there is the fact that it furthers the perception that men cannot get breast cancer, an issue that extends to multiple cancer charities - I'm still pretty pissed off that in the UK, the Race For Life, which is ostensibly for breast cancer, refuses to let men enter.
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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 29, 2014 16:51:44 GMT -5
God, I'm tired of "if it helps even ONE Person" argument. It acts like any kind of negative that occurs, no matter the size or impaact, is still justifiable due to that one single person.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 16:56:41 GMT -5
God, I'm tired of "if it helps even ONE Person" argument. It acts like any kind of negative that occurs, no matter the size or impaact, is still justifiable due to that one single person. Imagine that one person was your mother or sister or a close friend or even yourself. Your perspective would totally change.
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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 29, 2014 17:00:16 GMT -5
God, I'm tired of "if it helps even ONE Person" argument. It acts like any kind of negative that occurs, no matter the size or impaact, is still justifiable due to that one single person. Imagine that one person was your mother or sister or a close friend or even yourself. Your perspective would totally change. And you can add "Well, if it was your relative...." to the list, too. Besides, if my mom needed to be reminded to check herself out by watching RAW some day in October, dear god.....
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 29, 2014 17:00:47 GMT -5
God, I'm tired of "if it helps even ONE Person" argument. It acts like any kind of negative that occurs, no matter the size or impaact, is still justifiable due to that one single person. What's the negative? That people have to see people wearing pink shirts? Is one of those 12 recaps they show going to be cut in favor of a breast cancer awareness PSA? I'm sorry, possibly saving someone's life because they decided to get checked out because of this to ME is more important than a crooked charity.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 17:14:56 GMT -5
Imagine that one person was your mother or sister or a close friend or even yourself. Your perspective would totally change. And you can add "Well, if it was your relative...." to the list, too. Besides, if my mom needed to be reminded to check herself out by watching RAW some day in October, dear god..... Because it isn't always easy to predict you have cancer. Sometimes you display no sickness right away and have barely any pain in your body and it's not in the exact spot of the cancer. Case and point my grandma. Who currently has breast cancer. She was having shoulder pain and refused to check it out for a while because she thought it wasn't anything serious. So yeah there's people who maybe experiencing pain in a odd place for a while thinking it isn't serious, watches Raw and see's breast cancer, light bulb comes in shit my pain might be bit more serious then it is, and goes to the doctor. Like honestly who knows and who cares. One person's life is a pretty f***ing huge thing.
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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 29, 2014 17:24:09 GMT -5
God, I'm tired of "if it helps even ONE Person" argument. It acts like any kind of negative that occurs, no matter the size or impaact, is still justifiable due to that one single person. What's the negative? That people have to see people wearing pink shirts? Is one of those 12 recaps they show going to be cut in favor of a breast cancer awareness PSA? I'm sorry, possibly saving someone's life because they decided to get checked out because of this to ME is more important than a crooked charity. So, it doesn't matter if it actually helps or not, but as long as it's the appearance of helping, that's fine? Look, I really don't mind them spreading awareness, but it's kind of for naught if it is more to line the pockets of someone else than actually help with this cause. I don't think anyone arguing against this is on the mindset that breast cancer doesn't matter, it's just that the company brought in to do it is kind of crap at it.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 29, 2014 17:29:30 GMT -5
What's the negative? That people have to see people wearing pink shirts? Is one of those 12 recaps they show going to be cut in favor of a breast cancer awareness PSA? I'm sorry, possibly saving someone's life because they decided to get checked out because of this to ME is more important than a crooked charity. So, it doesn't matter if it actually helps or not, but as long as it's the appearance of helping, that's fine? Look, I really don't mind them spreading awareness, but it's kind of for naught if it is more to line the pockets of someone else than actually help with this cause. I don't think anyone arguing against this is on the mindset that breast cancer doesn't matter, it's just that the company brought in to do it is kind of crap at it. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm just going to bite my tongue and move on. I'm just disappointed.
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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 29, 2014 17:33:53 GMT -5
So, it doesn't matter if it actually helps or not, but as long as it's the appearance of helping, that's fine? Look, I really don't mind them spreading awareness, but it's kind of for naught if it is more to line the pockets of someone else than actually help with this cause. I don't think anyone arguing against this is on the mindset that breast cancer doesn't matter, it's just that the company brought in to do it is kind of crap at it. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm just going to bite my tongue and move on. I'm just disappointed. I didn't mean to. I just thought that was what you meant. If it wasn't, I'm sorry.
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Post by Speedy Cerviche on Sept 29, 2014 17:36:52 GMT -5
I think that the whole thing is more or less a good idea, but the gesture is kind of squandered considering the type of audience the WWE has. There are other illnesses out there which are more relevant to their particular viewership. I understand that they probably make a reasonable amount of money running their breast cancer merchandise and all, but still.
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