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Post by Wolfman Rose on Oct 5, 2014 8:50:55 GMT -5
People not intimidated by giant women because they show cleavage? That's some weird-assed standards, bro. And the fact the very image of Abyss in ass-less chaps was even brought up as being comparable... I don't even know how I feel about that. Personally, I think it's dumb because it shows TNA is incapable of even having a monster heel female wrestler without having to sexualise her. |
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 5, 2014 19:05:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't put that on TNA. Sure it's more cleavage than usual for her, but the TNA outfit is quite conservative compared to what she normally wears in the indies. Blame (or thank!) the new top which may or may not get used much after this for the showcase. I disagree with the notion of not being able to take a monster (female or male) seriously due to showing skin. The Abyss example doesn't work because he's Abyss and has always been rather corny even before all the dumb stuff. Yeah, I do take that back. Kong showed a lot of skin and was still a serious monster, but I don't think it works for HAVOK - she's already corny enough as it is with that stupid hair and music, she doesn't need her boobs popping out all over the place. It's takes away from any seriousness she trys to portray when all people pay attention to are her boobs. They already have enough women for that, HAVOK needs to be different. Also, sorry for the Abyss in chaps image. I haven't been able to sleep since I mentioned that and I put all the blame on that image. Aside from all that though, was anyone actually impressed with her performance? because I felt validated after that match that she's really not good at all. Her offense was sloopy, her strikes were awful and the shoulder breaker to the wrong shoulder? just bad. If any other woman performed that way she'd be crucified, but because HAVOK comes from Shimmer she's okay? |
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Post by bluemeii on Oct 6, 2014 0:14:36 GMT -5
I wouldn't put that on TNA. Sure it's more cleavage than usual for her, but the TNA outfit is quite conservative compared to what she normally wears in the indies. Blame (or thank!) the new top which may or may not get used much after this for the showcase. I disagree with the notion of not being able to take a monster (female or male) seriously due to showing skin. The Abyss example doesn't work because he's Abyss and has always been rather corny even before all the dumb stuff. Yeah, I do take that back. Kong showed a lot of skin and was still a serious monster, but I don't think it works for HAVOK - she's already corny enough as it is with that stupid hair and music, she doesn't need her boobs popping out all over the place. It's takes away from any seriousness she trys to portray when all people pay attention to are her boobs. They already have enough women for that, HAVOK needs to be different. Also, sorry for the Abyss in chaps image. I haven't been able to sleep since I mentioned that and I put all the blame on that image. Aside from all that though, was anyone actually impressed with her performance? because I felt validated after that match that she's really not good at all. Her offense was sloopy, her strikes were awful and the shoulder breaker to the wrong shoulder? just bad. If any other woman performed that way she'd be crucified, but because HAVOK comes from Shimmer she's okay? To stay positive, it's been more impressive then Rosie Lottalove's intial performance. Honestly though, no hasn't been that impressive at all really. I'm puting some on TNA and some on her. TNA for booking her as a less than impressive monster (50/50 brawls...having to take advantage of an injured champ instead of just doing what monsters are supposed to do...HULK SMASH), and her for her actual matches just being meh. Not good not great just meh. And are they every going to explain why she has to wear a gas mask? Does she have a RL flatulence problem? Why? Looks f***in stupid and don't get me started on her entrance music. |
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 6, 2014 0:41:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I do take that back. Kong showed a lot of skin and was still a serious monster, but I don't think it works for HAVOK - she's already corny enough as it is with that stupid hair and music, she doesn't need her boobs popping out all over the place. It's takes away from any seriousness she trys to portray when all people pay attention to are her boobs. They already have enough women for that, HAVOK needs to be different. Also, sorry for the Abyss in chaps image. I haven't been able to sleep since I mentioned that and I put all the blame on that image. Aside from all that though, was anyone actually impressed with her performance? because I felt validated after that match that she's really not good at all. Her offense was sloopy, her strikes were awful and the shoulder breaker to the wrong shoulder? just bad. If any other woman performed that way she'd be crucified, but because HAVOK comes from Shimmer she's okay? To stay positive, it's been more impressive then Rosie Lottalove's intial performance. Honestly though, no hasn't been that impressive at all really. I'm puting some on TNA and some on her. TNA for booking her as a less than impressive monster (50/50 brawls...having to take advantage of an injured champ instead of just doing what monsters are supposed to do...HULK SMASH), and her for her actual matches just being meh. Not good not great just meh. And are they every going to explain why she has to wear a gas mask? Does she have a RL flatulence problem? Why? Looks f***in stupid and don't get me started on her entrance music. I was going to say she's definitely better than Rosie because she hasn't hurt anyone, but Rebel did get hurt in the battle royal and I think it was Havok that pushed her out but I could be wrong. I also wouldn't put that blame all on Havok anyway because it's barely-trained Rebel. Aside from her debut, where she got to destroy both Gail and Taryn quickly, they've booked her really poorly. The battle royal was absolutely dreadful and she looked comical in it -- no help to her final opponents being Rebel and Velvet, the two worst wrestlers in TNA, but still. She was way off in that match. Then they had the brawl with Gail. Again not hiding her weaknesses, because her strikes were among the worst I have seen on TV on a wrestling program. She couldn't have made it look more fake it she tried. You made a good point about the 50/50 brawling, it's doing her no favours and just making her another lady on the roster because she's already been exposed. Why would a monster character like that need to attack pre-match to get an advantage? They could have done the injury during the match and used it as the reason Gail is gone for awhile. I doubt she'll last until the company folds. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}They've seemingly already lost faith in her by having her lose the title on Impact in a few weeks anyway.
If what they said on F4W was true, they found out she was no good and that's why they had her drop the title so quickly. Not good for her. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 6, 2014 12:07:50 GMT -5
To stay positive, it's been more impressive then Rosie Lottalove's intial performance. Honestly though, no hasn't been that impressive at all really. I'm puting some on TNA and some on her. TNA for booking her as a less than impressive monster (50/50 brawls...having to take advantage of an injured champ instead of just doing what monsters are supposed to do...HULK SMASH), and her for her actual matches just being meh. Not good not great just meh. And are they every going to explain why she has to wear a gas mask? Does she have a RL flatulence problem? Why? Looks f***in stupid and don't get me started on her entrance music. I was going to say she's definitely better than Rosie because she hasn't hurt anyone, but Rebel did get hurt in the battle royal and I think it was Havok that pushed her out but I could be wrong. I also wouldn't put that blame all on Havok anyway because it's barely-trained Rebel. Aside from her debut, where she got to destroy both Gail and Taryn quickly, they've booked her really poorly. The battle royal was absolutely dreadful and she looked comical in it -- no help to her final opponents being Rebel and Velvet, the two worst wrestlers in TNA, but still. She was way off in that match. Then they had the brawl with Gail. Again not hiding her weaknesses, because her strikes were among the worst I have seen on TV on a wrestling program. She couldn't have made it look more fake it she tried. You made a good point about the 50/50 brawling, it's doing her no favours and just making her another lady on the roster because she's already been exposed. Why would a monster character like that need to attack pre-match to get an advantage? They could have done the injury during the match and used it as the reason Gail is gone for awhile. I doubt she'll last until the company folds. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}They've seemingly already lost faith in her by having her lose the title on Impact in a few weeks anyway.
If what they said on F4W was true, they found out she was no good and that's why they had her drop the title so quickly. Not good for her. {Spoiler} Yet, Taryn Terrell is better than her. Outside working hardcore and stunt bumping, she was not that good. Still better than Velvet Sky though. |
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