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Post by Ken: The Hero of WWE on Oct 7, 2014 14:53:54 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan by a long shot.
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Post by Richard on Oct 7, 2014 14:55:32 GMT -5
Punk wasn't amazing in the ring. Now don't take that to mean he was bad, just the amount of great matches he had was on the short side, IMO. He could talk me into his matches and get across the emotion of it all like very few ever have but he couldn't take a random match and make it special.
With Bryan I rarely get invested in his stuff until the bell rings but once it rings I don't look away. With him, even a random match against Zack Ryder stands a chance of becoming memorable.
Obviously there are exceptions with each but when it comes to pure in-ring work, it has to be Bryan.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 7, 2014 15:07:39 GMT -5
In the ring my vote goes to Bryan unquestionably, if only because of how convincing, thrilling and over he is when the guy is f***ing tiny by wrestler standards. Punk is still a cruiserweigh, but he's a tall guy and looks threatening.
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Post by comahan on Oct 7, 2014 15:09:29 GMT -5
I think as a pure worker, it's Bryan. But when it comes to the matches theyve had in the last few years, I think Punk has a slight edge.
Punk vs Hardy @ SummerSlam
Punk vs Cena @ MITB
Punk vs Cena @ Raw
Punk vs Taker @ WrestleMania
Punk vs Lesnar @ SummerSlam
I consider all of those matches to be absolutely phenomenal, with Punk/Cena @ MITB and Punk/Lesnar @ SummerSlam being two of my favorite matches ever. His work with Jericho was also very very good, but not as good as the above list imo. With Bryan, while I think he's probably the better worker, I don't think his catalog has been as impressive as Punk. Very very good, but a tier below, imo.
Bryan vs HHH @ WrestleMania
Bryan vs Cena @ SummerSlam
Bryan vs Orton vs Batista @ WrestleMania
He's had a lot of other very good matches, but those are the only three i'd put up there with the list I made for Punk. There's also the Shield debut match @ TLC, but I'm not sure its fair to add a 6-man tag. Then you add matches like the Sheamus 2/3 Falls Match, the Orton match on Raw that ended with the low blow, the Bray Wyatt match at the Rumble, and a few of his encounters with Ziggler, and he definitely has his fair share of great work, I just think he's a small step behind Punk when it comes to top, top shelf matches.
In the end, they're both amazing. I'd say Bryan is more consistent, but Punk has the better top-level matches, at least when it comes to their WWE work.
But then, Punk has been given more chances to have those types of matches. Give Bryan a chance to work with Brock, Taker, Jericho, and have more matches with Cena, and he'd likely equal or top Punk when it comes to alltime classic bouts.
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Post by Dat Dude on Oct 7, 2014 15:14:56 GMT -5
Bryan's moves look more crisp (from a fan's standpoint) but I think Punk's psychology created so much more memorable in-ring moments for me.
So, Punk.
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Post by KobashiChop on Oct 7, 2014 15:23:49 GMT -5
Bryan.
Punk is great. Bryan is the best in the world, or at least in the USA for those who are more clued up on the current Japanese scene.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Oct 7, 2014 17:28:35 GMT -5
Punk's very good, but I'd say not only Bryan but Cena, Cesaro, Lesnar, Jericho and Rollins are all better workers than him. That's not a diss, it's just how deep WWE's talent pool is.
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Post by BRV on Oct 7, 2014 18:27:29 GMT -5
CM Punk's best asset was that he could sell a beating and he could evoke emotions out of the fans by his facial expressions and overall demeanor in the ring.
But I'll always contend that when it came to hitting some offense, CM Punk was among the worst. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING he did looked even remotely impactful or like it hurt his opponents. Whether it was his lazy "kicks" to the opponent's "head", his indefensibly atrocious Macho Man top-rope elbow drop, his punch/kick combination that looked like Shane McMahon shadow-boxing Randy Orton, or his Go to Sleep, nothing looked like it would remotely faze his opponent. It was always on his opponent to sell and make it look like it hurt. But it took selling like trying to sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman in white gloves. I hearken back to Raw 1000, when The Rock did yeoman's work in making Punk's clothesline and GTS look like it murdered him.
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Post by Instant Classic on Oct 7, 2014 18:35:01 GMT -5
While Punk vs Brock may be one of my favorite matches ever, Daniel Bryan by a mile and a half.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 7, 2014 20:01:32 GMT -5
If Punk had a better finished in the WWE, it would be a closer discussion. I'm not even sure what you're discussing now... Do you mean if he had a better finisher? If he had a better finish to his career? Sorry, type, better finisher. GTS was terrible. |
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Post by Adam Black on Oct 7, 2014 20:18:29 GMT -5
I remember one of the CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan matches were boring because it was mostly CM Punk "playing mind games" and "using psychology" against Bryan (despite being the face of the match). I doubt it would be boring if it was Bryan doing most of the heel stuff in that match.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 2:22:14 GMT -5
CM Punk's best asset was that he could sell a beating and he could evoke emotions out of the fans by his facial expressions and overall demeanor in the ring. But I'll always contend that when it came to hitting some offense, CM Punk was among the worst. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING he did looked even remotely impactful or like it hurt his opponents. Whether it was his lazy "kicks" to the opponent's "head", his indefensibly atrocious Macho Man top-rope elbow drop, his punch/kick combination that looked like Shane McMahon shadow-boxing Randy Orton, or his Go to Sleep, nothing looked like it would remotely faze his opponent. It was always on his opponent to sell and make it look like it hurt. But it took selling like trying to sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman in white gloves. I hearken back to Raw 1000, when The Rock did yeoman's work in making Punk's clothesline and GTS look like it murdered him. KETCHUP POPSICLE!?!?!? |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 8, 2014 2:44:06 GMT -5
CM Punk's best asset was that he could sell a beating and he could evoke emotions out of the fans by his facial expressions and overall demeanor in the ring. But I'll always contend that when it came to hitting some offense, CM Punk was among the worst. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING he did looked even remotely impactful or like it hurt his opponents. Whether it was his lazy "kicks" to the opponent's "head", his indefensibly atrocious Macho Man top-rope elbow drop, his punch/kick combination that looked like Shane McMahon shadow-boxing Randy Orton, or his Go to Sleep, nothing looked like it would remotely faze his opponent. It was always on his opponent to sell and make it look like it hurt. But it took selling like trying to sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman in white gloves. I hearken back to Raw 1000, when The Rock did yeoman's work in making Punk's clothesline and GTS look like it murdered him. KETCHUP POPSICLE!?!?!? Now trending. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 3:10:40 GMT -5
I remember one of the CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan matches were boring because it was mostly CM Punk "playing mind games" and "using psychology" against Bryan (despite being the face of the match). I doubt it would be boring if it was Bryan doing most of the heel stuff in that match. Trust me, their Money in the Bank 2012 match had Bryan heeling it up and that match is incredibly boring. |
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Post by Adam Black on Oct 8, 2014 4:42:13 GMT -5
I remember one of the CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan matches were boring because it was mostly CM Punk "playing mind games" and "using psychology" against Bryan (despite being the face of the match). I doubt it would be boring if it was Bryan doing most of the heel stuff in that match. Trust me, their Money in the Bank 2012 match had Bryan heeling it up and that match is incredibly boring. Well that was the time Bryan was reduced into kicking man |
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Post by Abdullah on Oct 8, 2014 8:10:59 GMT -5
I think as a pure worker, it's Bryan. But when it comes to the matches theyve had in the last few years, I think Punk has a slight edge. Punk vs Hardy @ SummerSlam Punk vs Cena @ MITB Punk vs Cena @ Raw Punk vs Taker @ WrestleMania Punk vs Lesnar @ SummerSlam I consider all of those matches to be absolutely phenomenal, with Punk/Cena @ MITB and Punk/Lesnar @ SummerSlam being two of my favorite matches ever. His work with Jericho was also very very good, but not as good as the above list imo. With Bryan, while I think he's probably the better worker, I don't think his catalog has been as impressive as Punk. Very very good, but a tier below, imo. Bryan vs HHH @ WrestleMania Bryan vs Cena @ SummerSlam Bryan vs Orton vs Batista @ WrestleMania It seems to me that you're just considering matches that are billed as the main event, which Bryan has had few of because WWE has never trusted him as much as the supposed outsider. Bryan's work with Ziggler at Bragging Rights and with Sheamus generally is easily better than Punk's match with Taker. It was good, remembered as being better than it was because the rest of the card was so weak. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 8, 2014 9:10:02 GMT -5
Bryan and it's not even close. Punk was great but Bryan was seriously the best wrestler in the US. I love Punk and he knows how to tell a great story in the ring but his work was pretty sloppy at times. Bryan, on the other hand, is always on-point and crisp.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Oct 8, 2014 9:20:27 GMT -5
I think as a pure worker, it's Bryan. But when it comes to the matches theyve had in the last few years, I think Punk has a slight edge. Punk vs Hardy @ SummerSlam Punk vs Cena @ MITB Punk vs Cena @ Raw Punk vs Taker @ WrestleMania Punk vs Lesnar @ SummerSlam I consider all of those matches to be absolutely phenomenal, with Punk/Cena @ MITB and Punk/Lesnar @ SummerSlam being two of my favorite matches ever. His work with Jericho was also very very good, but not as good as the above list imo. With Bryan, while I think he's probably the better worker, I don't think his catalog has been as impressive as Punk. Very very good, but a tier below, imo. Bryan vs HHH @ WrestleMania Bryan vs Cena @ SummerSlam Bryan vs Orton vs Batista @ WrestleMania It seems to me that you're just considering matches that are billed as the main event, which Bryan has had few of because WWE has never trusted him as much as the supposed outsider. Bryan's work with Ziggler at Bragging Rights and with Sheamus generally is easily better than Punk's match with Taker. It was good, remembered as being better than it was because the rest of the card was so weak. Also, you look at those matches, and of course they're going to be phenomenal. I mean, Lesnar is a friggin' beast, and for all his faults we all agree Cena can pull a good-to-great match out of just about anybody. So yeah, I imagine CM Punk had stellar matches with John Cena and Brock Lesnar, but Daniel Bryan could pull a match of the night out of The Miz, a guy even John Cena couldn't pull a good WrestleMania match out of. Plenty of guys in the business say they could wrestle a broomstick, but Daniel Bryan could main event with a broomstick and get the dustpan over. |
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Oct 8, 2014 11:23:22 GMT -5
Hard choice for me.
But, to be honest, I enjoyed Bryan more. He's so amazing in the ring and that has shortened his in-ring career by a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 11:40:29 GMT -5
Punk is my favorite character, but Bryan is probably the best wrestler to step into a ring since Bret Hart.
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