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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 11, 2014 20:49:15 GMT -5
Romo is one and Scott Norwood will never forget that SB.
Hell you could even say Peyton
Who are some other ones?
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 11, 2014 21:04:22 GMT -5
The Bengals, the entire god damned franchise
Oh, and Clemson.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Oct 11, 2014 21:08:54 GMT -5
Any player that puts on an Atlanta Braves uniform, sadly.
Also, Bobby Cox. The man was took a damn near yearly trip to the World Series and won 1. I'll forever disagree with my fellow Braves fans concerning that man.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 11, 2014 21:10:17 GMT -5
Any player that puts on an Atlanta Braves uniform, sadly. Also, Bobby Cox. The man was took a damn near yearly trip to the World Series and won 1. I'll forever disagree with my fellow Braves fans concerning that man. With how good that team was they should have won more then one WS
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Oct 11, 2014 21:12:06 GMT -5
The Bengals, the entire god damned franchise Oh, and Clemson. Not choke artists so much as bad franchise, at least until recently. For a franchise, I'll add the San Jose Sharks. For an individual, Greg Norman.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 21:13:53 GMT -5
Anyone who played in the 1990-1993 Bills
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 21:18:46 GMT -5
Peyton is lucky that he has a Super Bowl ring, because dude kind of sucks in big games going all the way back to college.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 11, 2014 21:20:41 GMT -5
Peyton is lucky that he has a Super Bowl ring, because dude kind of sucks in big games going all the way back to college. Tee Martin is the hero of that 98 team
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Post by Perd on Oct 11, 2014 21:26:01 GMT -5
Chris Benoit.
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Post by Sam Punk on Oct 11, 2014 21:35:51 GMT -5
y.a. tittle
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Post by Mayonnaise on Oct 11, 2014 21:36:31 GMT -5
I have a hard time calling Peyton a choker because he's is 10 times out 10 the reason they make it to the big games and by that point that other top tier team you're going against knows if they put all the focus on him they can win. I don't see that as choking so much as being one dimensional and exposed. Honestly he is a lot like Elway in that regard.
Romo for as much as I think he catches too much flak does choke though. Yeah he is the only reason the Cowboys can even say they are in the hunt but when he goes up in the last game or two with pressure on him against not so good opponents he blows up.
Ron Washington's Rangers belong on here. 2 or 3 WS in a row with no title and hell that STL one alone shows it.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 11, 2014 21:40:11 GMT -5
They was one out away from a WS win
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 11, 2014 21:41:13 GMT -5
I have a hard time calling Peyton a choker because he's is 10 times out 10 the reason they make it to the big games and by that point that other top tier team you're going against knows if they put all the focus on him they can win. I don't see that as choking so much as being one dimensional and exposed. Honestly he is a lot like Elway in that regard. Romo for as much as I think he catches too much flak does choke though. Yeah he is the only reason the Cowboys can even say they are in the hunt but when he goes up in the last game or two with pressure on him against not so good opponents he blows up. Ron Washington's Rangers belong on here. 2 or 3 WS in a row with no title and hell that STL one alone shows it. Hate to do it but in the NFL they measure u by titles some people call Favre a choker
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Post by Mayonnaise on Oct 11, 2014 21:45:05 GMT -5
I have a hard time calling Peyton a choker because he's is 10 times out 10 the reason they make it to the big games and by that point that other top tier team you're going against knows if they put all the focus on him they can win. I don't see that as choking so much as being one dimensional and exposed. Honestly he is a lot like Elway in that regard. Romo for as much as I think he catches too much flak does choke though. Yeah he is the only reason the Cowboys can even say they are in the hunt but when he goes up in the last game or two with pressure on him against not so good opponents he blows up. Ron Washington's Rangers belong on here. 2 or 3 WS in a row with no title and hell that STL one alone shows it. Hate to do it but in the NFL they measure u by titles some people call Favre a choker And I think those people are insane. Dan Marino is far from a choker but he has less rings than Trent Dilfer. I think rings can be a part of the conversation but making them the end all in this doesn't work for me personally.
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 11, 2014 21:46:27 GMT -5
Unlike with the NBA Players in The NFL and MLB can't win it by their self's
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 11, 2014 21:47:01 GMT -5
Hate to do it but in the NFL they measure u by titles some people call Favre a choker And I think those people are insane. Dan Marino is far from a choker but he has less rings than Trent Dilfer. I think rings can be a part of the conversation but making them the end all in this doesn't work for me personally. And people will say what hurt Dan he never had a runner game
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Post by Mayonnaise on Oct 11, 2014 22:05:11 GMT -5
And I think those people are insane. Dan Marino is far from a choker but he has less rings than Trent Dilfer. I think rings can be a part of the conversation but making them the end all in this doesn't work for me personally. And people will say what hurt Dan he never had a runner game Yeah and Peyton rarely had a defense, Elway was always missing a defense or a run game. On the flip side, Brady for his three rings owes more it more to his defense and special teams than their offense. Once it was really Brady's team they lost two to the Giants including a perfect season. And I don't say that to diminish what Brady did (one of the most successful Michigan players ever and I love him for that), just saying that going rings alone misses so much. Before 98 and 99 Elway was usually labeled the biggest choker in NFL history and was blown out in 2 Super Bowls by record margins but now thanks to those two at the end when he had complete teams he's seen as one of the best.
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Post by VRM: LET'S GO BLUESHIRTS!! on Oct 11, 2014 22:07:13 GMT -5
Phil Mickelson + US Open = 2nd Place..... AGAIN!
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 11, 2014 22:08:04 GMT -5
And people will say what hurt Dan he never had a runner game Yeah and Peyton rarely had a defense, Elway was always missing a defense or a run game. On the flip side, Brady for his three rings owes more it more to his defense and special teams than their offense. Once it was really Brady's team they lost two to the Giants including a perfect season. And I don't say that to diminish what Brady did (one of the most successful Michigan players ever and I love him for that), just saying that going rings alone misses so much. Before 98 and 99 Elway was usually labeled the biggest choker in NFL history and was blown out in 2 Super Bowls by record margins but now thanks to those two at the end when he had complete teams he's seen as one of the best. Brady owes it that he had a great kicker
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 11, 2014 22:22:56 GMT -5
They are my team but holy shit, the Bengals are jobbers to the stars.
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