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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 21, 2014 19:54:55 GMT -5
But she's so cute and attainable! She can't be bad at anything.
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Post by Adam Black on Nov 21, 2014 20:09:17 GMT -5
Don't we all agree that she's a bad commentator?
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Post by xCompackx on Nov 21, 2014 21:03:54 GMT -5
I don't think she's that bad. I would take Renee Young on commentary over JBL and Cole any day of the week.
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Post by bearned on Nov 21, 2014 21:14:44 GMT -5
I think she would be better if she was alongside better commentators...
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Post by Emmet Russell on Nov 21, 2014 21:27:19 GMT -5
She's not bad, but she's not good either. She's average and I see room for improvement, unlike people like Riley who are just flat out atrocious.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Nov 21, 2014 21:29:52 GMT -5
Anyone else catch the look she gave the bunny on Main Event when Adam Rose said the bunny would hump anything?
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Post by Andy Martin on Nov 21, 2014 21:43:07 GMT -5
She might be the worst commentator I've ever heard.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 21, 2014 22:09:10 GMT -5
All the NXT announcers are fine. She might be the worst commentator I've ever heard. As long as Alex Riley is employed, these are false and impossible. With Renee, she excellent when she has focus. The little she worked with Regal or Alberts she is fine, same as the few times she has been the lead. I blame Riley more than anyone, he drags down everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 22:12:20 GMT -5
Alex Riley may never make a good commentator, despite being a good, confident talker because of one reason - limbo.
He isn't a Regal, JBL or Lawler with an in-ring career that gets respect - even Albert has won plenty of titles globally so people acknowledge him. Riley failed to win NXT 2 and was generally a jobber permanently but he was over for a spell against The Miz so he wasn't a total nobody. This means he is too big to not be seen as anything other than a failed wrestler but not big enough to be able to criticize someone on commentary because, kayfabe wise, he didn't do anything himself.
I don't see a way for him to get past it beyond doing it so long people just accept him like Cole did.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 21, 2014 22:39:19 GMT -5
Alex Riley may never make a good commentator, despite being a good, confident talker because of one reason - limbo. He isn't a Regal, JBL or Lawler with an in-ring career that gets respect - even Albert has won plenty of titles globally so people acknowledge him. Riley failed to win NXT 2 and was generally a jobber permanently but he was over for a spell against The Miz so he wasn't a total nobody. This means he is too big to not be seen as anything other than a failed wrestler but not big enough to be able to criticize someone on commentary because, kayfabe wise, he didn't do anything himself. . Yeah, if WWE wants him to improve, they will give him opportunities to wrestle, or even just allow him to work Indy shows on the weekend so he can earn that same respect that King, JBL, Regal, and Albert have. That's the whole point of a color commentator, someone who can give insight from a wrestler's perspective and he can't do that right now. Let him have a decent in ring career and try again in 5-7 years when his opinion would actually be worth a shit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 22:54:23 GMT -5
Keep her behind the microphone but in front of the camera, not calling the action in a booth.
Some of the best interviewers ever sucked doing commentary and vice versa. Mean Gene was the best interviewer ever but wasn't spectacular the rare occasions he did commentary. Alfred Hayes was tolerable as an interviewer, but sucked as a commentator. Gorilla Monsoon and Jesse Ventura are two of the best commentators of all time but seemed to always slightly overshadow (or at least take some of the spotlight from) people they interviewed. Even back then WWF realized that just because someone is good at one doesn't mean they'd be great at the other, and they tried to keep everyone doing what they did best. What's wrong with keeping Renee backstage today? Is the budget REALLY that tight?
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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 21, 2014 22:57:46 GMT -5
Alex Riley may never make a good commentator, despite being a good, confident talker because of one reason - limbo. He isn't a Regal, JBL or Lawler with an in-ring career that gets respect - even Albert has won plenty of titles globally so people acknowledge him. Riley failed to win NXT 2 and was generally a jobber permanently but he was over for a spell against The Miz so he wasn't a total nobody. This means he is too big to not be seen as anything other than a failed wrestler but not big enough to be able to criticize someone on commentary because, kayfabe wise, he didn't do anything himself. I don't see a way for him to get past it beyond doing it so long people just accept him like Cole did. I could not disagree more. It is not a respect thing, he just sucks. In one show he's gone from liking Sami Zayn, to calling him a choker, to saying he's been robbed to hating him to thinking he's a future champ to thinking he needs to leave wrestling. He has no clue what he is calling. They bring in Itami and Balor, hyping them as major wrestling stars and while Albert and Generic Guy talk about that Riley is wondering if the two of them have ever been in a wrestling ring before. It is not even heel work, he is a damned idiot. Finally, Matt Striker had a far worse in-ring career than Riley but until he was broken by Cole and King and went all nickname crazy, he was the best announcer in WWE. He years of amazing work and his in-ring success, or lack there of, did not hamper him at all.
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Post by The Tee Why on Nov 21, 2014 23:00:23 GMT -5
I don't think it's blasphemy at all to acknowledge that she's f***ing terrible. People think that just cause her and dean ambrose are boinking that she is good by proxy because shes boinking him
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 23:06:48 GMT -5
I don't think it's blasphemy at all to acknowledge that she's f***ing terrible. People think that just cause her and dean ambrose are boinking that she is good by proxy because shes boinking him If f***ing wrestlers was all it took to be considered good Missy Hyatt would be in the HOF and Melina would still have a job. ... Although, Tammy Sytch IS in the HOF and Rosa Mendes is still employed so what do I know.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 21, 2014 23:07:15 GMT -5
Alex Riley may never make a good commentator, despite being a good, confident talker because of one reason - limbo. He isn't a Regal, JBL or Lawler with an in-ring career that gets respect - even Albert has won plenty of titles globally so people acknowledge him. Riley failed to win NXT 2 and was generally a jobber permanently but he was over for a spell against The Miz so he wasn't a total nobody. This means he is too big to not be seen as anything other than a failed wrestler but not big enough to be able to criticize someone on commentary because, kayfabe wise, he didn't do anything himself. I don't see a way for him to get past it beyond doing it so long people just accept him like Cole did. I could not disagree more. It is not a respect thing, he just sucks. In one show he's gone from liking Sami Zayn, to calling him a choker, to saying he's been robbed to hating him to thinking he's a future champ to thinking he needs to leave wrestling. He has no clue what he is calling. They bring in Itami and Balor, hyping them as major wrestling stars and while Albert and Generic Guy talk about that Riley is wondering if the two of them have ever been in a wrestling ring before. It is not even heel work, he is a damned idiot. Finally, Matt Striker had a far worse in-ring career than Riley but until he was broken by Cole and King and went all nickname crazy, he was the best announcer in WWE. He years of amazing work and his in-ring success, or lack there of, did not hamper him at all. Yes, he does suck. But he just doesn't have the wisdom that a color commentator is supposed to have because he got cut off at the knees. And no, Matt Striker did not have a worse in-ring career than Riley. Striker was a fairly accomplished indy wrestler who won titles, and he at least got to still have feuds and was still treated like a character on the show once they put him behind the table. Riley is nothing. He's someone who due to WWE's rigid and homogenized training methods has been ruined by being labeled a "bad" wrestler. And he'll continue to stink up commentary as long as he's nothing. They need to either use him or cut him so he can go out and earn respect.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Nov 21, 2014 23:11:55 GMT -5
People think that just cause her and dean ambrose are boinking that she is good by proxy because shes boinking him If f***ing wrestlers was all it took to be considered good Missy Hyatt would be in the HOF and Melina would still have a job. ... Although, Tammy Sytch IS in the HOF and Rosa Mendes is still employed so what do I know. To be fair, Missy Hyatt probably should be in the HOF.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 21, 2014 23:17:52 GMT -5
I could not disagree more. It is not a respect thing, he just sucks. In one show he's gone from liking Sami Zayn, to calling him a choker, to saying he's been robbed to hating him to thinking he's a future champ to thinking he needs to leave wrestling. He has no clue what he is calling. They bring in Itami and Balor, hyping them as major wrestling stars and while Albert and Generic Guy talk about that Riley is wondering if the two of them have ever been in a wrestling ring before. It is not even heel work, he is a damned idiot. Finally, Matt Striker had a far worse in-ring career than Riley but until he was broken by Cole and King and went all nickname crazy, he was the best announcer in WWE. He years of amazing work and his in-ring success, or lack there of, did not hamper him at all. Yes, he does suck. But he just doesn't have the wisdom that a color commentator is supposed to have because he got cut off at the knees. And no, Matt Striker did not have a worse in-ring career than Riley. Striker was a fairly accomplished indy wrestler who won titles, and he at least got to still have feuds and was still treated like a character on the show once they put him behind the table. Riley is nothing. And he'll continue to stink up commentary as long as he's nothing. They need to either use him or cut him so he can go out and earn respect. The indies meant less than shit to WWE when Striker was there and the whole point being made was that having a great career that people knew about and respected makes you a better commentator and no one new about Matt Striker before WWE. Shit, everyone thought he was the unibrowed guy from early ROH for god's sake. When Striker started backstage interviewing, he was done in the ring, it was almost a year later he was put on commentary in ECW. There were no feuds for him, he wasn't a character. He was Matt Striker, announcer until King ran him off to NXT Redemption. You can talk about respect all you want but that has nothing to do with it, it is simply talent on the mic. Riley blows, we all know it, and that won't change just because he has some more matches.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Nov 21, 2014 23:26:16 GMT -5
I actually like all the NXT commentators.
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Post by Main Eventer on Nov 21, 2014 23:29:02 GMT -5
Don't understand the hate on Young when Jason Alberts is so much worse.
Alberts: "MAY GAWD ITS BAILEY CUM ON RILEY HUG IT OUT WITH ME BRUTHA."
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Nov 21, 2014 23:42:34 GMT -5
I'm not even that keen on her as an interviewer.
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