Professor Chaos
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Post by Professor Chaos on Nov 24, 2014 2:46:26 GMT -5
FAN are all Jelly cause they can look but they can't touch. AJ Who?
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Totorob101
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Post by Totorob101 on Nov 24, 2014 3:19:36 GMT -5
Seems like a pointless heel turn as there is now a massive lack of face divas to challenge her. Only Natala, Emma and Naomi can be considered faces with AJ and Alicia tweeners, and every other female heels.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Nov 24, 2014 4:28:55 GMT -5
Finally, AJ can have some time off to look after her litter of 58 children and all their grandchildren!
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 24, 2014 4:31:30 GMT -5
Seems like a pointless heel turn as there is now a massive lack of face divas to challenge her. Only Natala, Emma and Naomi can be considered faces with AJ and Alicia tweeners, and every other female heels. If the Bellas stay together, turn Paige face or tweener, and have Summer try to be her bestie. Have Summer be all happy trying to cheer up Paige, acting like Paige, and reacting with delight when Paige does something good, do the storyline of Paige coming around on Summer and it turns full circle when the Bellas are attacking Summer and Paige makes the save. Right there you've got 2 new faces, and an entertaining team.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 24, 2014 4:32:28 GMT -5
Who can boo Brie Bella when she's not siphoning off her husband's overness? But I like Brie's YES! squats.
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schma
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Post by schma on Nov 24, 2014 5:07:07 GMT -5
As for Brie's logic I could see them going with, the Authority has made life a hell for the Bellas and there was no sign they were going anywhere for a long long time. So they secretly hatched a plot to get Nikki on Steph's good side and get her title shots that she otherwise would have no hope of. They knew it would take pain and sacrifice but if they could make it work, Nikki would finally get her championship (I could be wrong but I think only Brie had it before?).
I'm not saying this is a good way to go but I wouldn't be surprised if this is what they go for. Admittedly, I'm wondering if the way it syncs up with 18 seconds is partly a fluke. It's awesome in a sense but perhaps we're giving creative too much credit there. Then again tonight they seemed to be firing on all cylinders.
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Nov 24, 2014 5:53:35 GMT -5
I don't think Brie turned heel, on the WWE interview afterwards she kept looking the other way like she silently disagreed with Nikki, and Nikki continued to belittle her like usual. She's biding her time on Nikki. And AJ while a babyface has assaulting Brie and whatnot recently.
I think we'll get Brie vs Nikki for the belt at TLC.
And kudos to Nikki! I love the Rack Attack. Then give Naomi a title shot too, Rack Attack versus the Rear View, best move names around!
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Post by janverjon on Nov 24, 2014 8:01:05 GMT -5
Yawn The Bellas are total shit in my opinion. Another boring ass reign from her. How can you put 'Bella' and 'boring ass' in the same post?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 8:08:05 GMT -5
Brie was still giving Nikki evil faces after the match, she just got revenge on the woman who terrorized WWE for three years and cost her husband the world title at WM in 18 - by doing the same thing and costing AJ in 18 seconds.
It's awesome continuity, not really a heel turn.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 10:38:35 GMT -5
Brie was still giving Nikki evil faces after the match, she just got revenge on the woman who terrorized WWE for three years and cost her husband the world title at WM in 18 - by doing the same thing and costing AJ in 18 seconds. It's awesome continuity, not really a heel turn. I've seen this a lot and I really don't get it. Brie intentionally turned heel to help her sister (who had made her life a living hell for the past three months) get the title from AJ, who, despite all protests to the contrary on this board, is a face. At WM28 face AJ accidentally cost heel Bryan his title. It would be "continuity" if Brie had accidentally cost AJ the belt; what happened last night was more like a Russo-fied shout-out to WM28 than a story coming full circle.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 10:40:34 GMT -5
Brie was still giving Nikki evil faces after the match, she just got revenge on the woman who terrorized WWE for three years and cost her husband the world title at WM in 18 - by doing the same thing and costing AJ in 18 seconds. It's awesome continuity, not really a heel turn. I've seen this a lot and I really don't get it. Brie intentionally turned heel to help her sister (who had made her life a living hell for the past three months) get the title from AJ, who, despite all protests to the contrary on this board, is a face. At WM28 face AJ accidentally cost heel Bryan his title. It would be "continuity" if Brie had accidentally cost AJ the belt; what happened last night was more like a Russo-fied shout-out to WM28 than a story coming full circle. Brie didn't turn heel - she just got revenge on someone that, her character, may feel cost her husband the title and who has attacked her several times this past few weeks. At the end of the day too, Nikki is still her sister and having the title in the family is pride. That and Brie was still giving Nikki evil looks and rolling her eyes when Nikki wanted the ropes opening so they aren't all best buds now according to Survivor Series anyway. It is perfectly logical to me unless they retcon it all tonight on RAW and say they're all in on a plan.
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Post by Dat Dude on Nov 24, 2014 10:45:37 GMT -5
Would've it killed them for them to put on an actual match? You still could had the same ending, but all that build up with no real match was a big let down.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 24, 2014 10:46:43 GMT -5
Brie was still giving Nikki evil faces after the match, she just got revenge on the woman who terrorized WWE for three years and cost her husband the world title at WM in 18 - by doing the same thing and costing AJ in 18 seconds. It's awesome continuity, not really a heel turn. I've seen this a lot and I really don't get it. Brie intentionally turned heel to help her sister (who had made her life a living hell for the past three months) get the title from AJ, who, despite all protests to the contrary on this board, is a face. At WM28 face AJ accidentally cost heel Bryan his title. It would be "continuity" if Brie had accidentally cost AJ the belt; what happened last night was more like a Russo-fied shout-out to WM28 than a story coming full circle. Actually last night was more similar to Summerslam 2013 if you think about it. You had a Face champion(AJ/Bryan) getting betrayed and screwed out of their title by another Face(Brie Bella/Triple H) this allowing an opportunistic Heel(Nikki Bella/Randy Orton) to seize the opportunity and win the title. And it involved 2 conspirators who prior to the act were at odds with each other(Brie & Nikki/Orton & Triple H).
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Post by Captain2 on Nov 24, 2014 10:51:23 GMT -5
Brie was still giving Nikki evil faces after the match, she just got revenge on the woman who terrorized WWE for three years and cost her husband the world title at WM in 18 - by doing the same thing and costing AJ in 18 seconds. It's awesome continuity, not really a heel turn. I've seen this a lot and I really don't get it. Brie intentionally turned heel to help her sister (who had made her life a living hell for the past three months) get the title from AJ, who, despite all protests to the contrary on this board, is a face. At WM28 face AJ accidentally cost heel Bryan his title. It would be "continuity" if Brie had accidentally cost AJ the belt; what happened last night was more like a Russo-fied shout-out to WM28 than a story coming full circle. To be fair though, AJ is not a face. I wouldn't say she's a heel either but she's certainly not a face. Maybe she's a magical unicorn-like tweener.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 10:53:28 GMT -5
Actually last night was more similar to Summerslam 2013 if you think about it. You had a Face champion(AJ/Bryan) getting betrayed and screwed out of their title by another Face(Brie Bella/Triple H) this allowing an opportunistic Heel(Nikki Bella/Randy Orton) to seize the opportunity and win the title. And it involved 2 conspirators who prior to the act were at odds with each other(Brie & Nikki/Orton & Triple H). See, this I can buy. Everybody's been harping about how this is such a smart callback to WM28, but Summerslam 13 makes actually makes a lot more sense as a comparison.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 24, 2014 10:55:30 GMT -5
I've seen this a lot and I really don't get it. Brie intentionally turned heel to help her sister (who had made her life a living hell for the past three months) get the title from AJ, who, despite all protests to the contrary on this board, is a face. At WM28 face AJ accidentally cost heel Bryan his title. It would be "continuity" if Brie had accidentally cost AJ the belt; what happened last night was more like a Russo-fied shout-out to WM28 than a story coming full circle. Brie didn't turn heel - she just got revenge on someone that, her character, may feel cost her husband the title and who has attacked her several times this past few weeks. At the end of the day too, Nikki is still her sister and having the title in the family is pride. That and Brie was still giving Nikki evil looks and rolling her eyes when Nikki wanted the ropes opening so they aren't all best buds now according to Survivor Series anyway. It is perfectly logical to me unless they retcon it all tonight on RAW and say they're all in on a plan. Well if the plan was to get Brie over as a Face or to develop sympathy for her plight, last night pretty much undone all the progress that they made. If the endgame was for Nikki to lose the title, the opportunity was there ripe for the taking. If the plan was for Brie to take the title herself, than by doing what she did, you made her just as manipulative as AJ's and Eve's Heel persona.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 11:00:04 GMT -5
Brie didn't turn heel - she just got revenge on someone that, her character, may feel cost her husband the title and who has attacked her several times this past few weeks. At the end of the day too, Nikki is still her sister and having the title in the family is pride. That and Brie was still giving Nikki evil looks and rolling her eyes when Nikki wanted the ropes opening so they aren't all best buds now according to Survivor Series anyway. It is perfectly logical to me unless they retcon it all tonight on RAW and say they're all in on a plan. Well if the plan was to get Brie over as a Face or to develop sympathy for her plight, last night pretty much undone all the progress that they made. If the endgame was for Nikki to lose the title, the opportunity was there ripe for the taking. If the plan was for Brie to take the title herself, than by doing what she did, you made her just as manipulative as AJ's and Eve's Heel persona. I never said it made a great babyface story but it is logical in so far as Survivor Series - it depends how they proceed with it that results in how it works out.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 24, 2014 11:14:18 GMT -5
Well if the plan was to get Brie over as a Face or to develop sympathy for her plight, last night pretty much undone all the progress that they made. If the endgame was for Nikki to lose the title, the opportunity was there ripe for the taking. If the plan was for Brie to take the title herself, than by doing what she did, you made her just as manipulative as AJ's and Eve's Heel persona. I never said it made a great babyface story but it is logical in so far as Survivor Series - it depends how they proceed with it that results in how it works out. I don't think it will work out. Anything other than a Heel turn will just come off like a jumbled mess( another in a long line during this storyline). I mean if they go the Face route, Brie will have gone from a sympathetic Face to a no-good backstabbing Heel, to a manipulator willing to step on people to attain her objective. And even trying to use Daniel Bryan to justify it won't work because Bryan himself stated that that moment was the genesis of the YES! Movement, which lead to his crowning achievement at WM30. That is just terrible booking.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 11:31:37 GMT -5
List the reasons Brie had to do this...
A) AJ has DDTed her for no reason, and beat her down in the week prior to this. Before that, even though she KNEW Nikki was pulling the strings on Brie slapping her, AJ still went after Brie and punched her out. B) The whole AJ-Bryan connection. Could be payback for her costing him the title at WM28, or it could simply be jealousy (that wouldn't make her a face tho...) from a new lover towards an older one. C) Brie wants Nikki BAD - she wants revenge and what better way to get that than to take away from Nikki, what she has worked hard and long for? Might as well kill two birds with one stone when they have their eventual match, no?
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 24, 2014 11:31:20 GMT -5
Fearless #hatboobs
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