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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Aug 4, 2021 13:22:33 GMT -5
To address above REPRESENTATION MATTERS!!!! That can't be silenced. It's not a matter of back and forth. You want someone who looks like you and I can't see anything wrong with that. If you still want to fight as other characters that's fine but if I care about something don't let that kill your enjoyment. You don't have to be invested like I am, stick to what you know but if you don't speak up about something you want the change will never happen I personally don't care to just include your token characters to win some brownie points. If you going to do it, make it count. With the animated show Yasuke, it's not some farfetched idea to make it happen. F***ing Afro Samurai has happened. They can make it happen It’s just not a big deal with me here, I’m sorry. My ID for PSN is radioclash5150. You wanna play? I’m there. What are you even doing? Lol
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Aug 4, 2021 14:09:07 GMT -5
No dude, this isn’t a joke post. And I’m not trying to silence you. But I do think you’re taking Luke a bit too seriously. And yes, I would like a break from this kind of stuff now and then. I’m not in any kind of activist mindset when I’m trying to just have fun. If you’re that bothered by the character, give me your PS4 info, and let’s play. Why do you think I want to *ban* you from the board? That’s not my goal. I think he looks fun, and if you don’t like it, then why not take your anger out on me in a round or two? You literally said "dude, NO. No, we are NOT doing this here" and "why did I know one of you guys were going to play this card" when you responded to me towards my opinion on this. People aren't stupid, we know what it means so the fact you're saying "no I'm not trying to silence you" doesn't correlate to what you've previously said. You knew what you were doing when you said that. Let's keep it a buck.
You also saying I'm taking Luke a bit too seriously holds no weight here because that's my opinion and I'm free to have that, that's saying my opinion towards me being represented is me thinking too seriously towards something.The fact that we've got 45 characters in this game and we only have 1 black American dude on this roster (who was created 30 years ago) is something I don't like because I like being represented in a game because I like seeing people who look like me in media. There's been numerous threads, posts on social media and comments in videos about the lack of representation in this game and now that continues when this guy's announced. It doesn't matter if it's videogames, wrestling, movies, music, whatever. To you it doesn't matter but to me it does matter. You can't say "I think you're taking it too seriously" when you're placing your own interests on it as if it's a blanket statement that extends to everyone when really that's a personal statement. What I like and what I love doesn't translate into you and vice versa.
As for us playing a game, this isn't some "hey guys let's play if you're that mad about it thing", you honestly think me playing a game is going to make me happy knowing I don't see more people like myself in a game series I've loved since elementary school? Really? When this game's got 45 characters? That's why I asked if your post was a joke post because part of what you said looked like a threat trying to take a knock on my post because you disagreed and now you're here talking about playing matches. Dude, that's not how things work.
I brought up the ban comment because I'm being honest, if you're trying to say my opinion towards this is wrong and I'm not allowed to feel this way I'll take a permanent ban on this. Representation is serious to me and many others and if it's some type of joke and if someone's gonna be like "hey go calm down" then ban me because I'd rather be banned than be in a place where voices are being silenced towards people wanting to be represented in something they enjoy. I'm dead serious.
This isn't funny.
Okay, you wanna know why I reacted that way initially? I was frustrated. That’s all. And no, it’s NOT something I like seeing here. But I know there’s nothing I can do about that. I wasn’t trying to discipline you for your opinion. So I apologize if I gave that impression. You’re not wrong for feeling that way. Representation in media is important and fine with me, always has been. And yeah, maybe SF needs more diversity, but this new dude isn’t a deal breaker for me. I offered you a chance to play my Luke because I wanted to relive any tension. That’s it, I just want to have fun playing the game. But I realize I probably f***ed that up, so I’m sorry. If you don’t understand how I feel, I’ll just go away and leave you alone. I just hope you don’t feel like I’m some kind of creep for wanting to enjoy something.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2021 14:15:01 GMT -5
You literally said "dude, NO. No, we are NOT doing this here" and "why did I know one of you guys were going to play this card" when you responded to me towards my opinion on this. People aren't stupid, we know what it means so the fact you're saying "no I'm not trying to silence you" doesn't correlate to what you've previously said. You knew what you were doing when you said that. Let's keep it a buck.
You also saying I'm taking Luke a bit too seriously holds no weight here because that's my opinion and I'm free to have that, that's saying my opinion towards me being represented is me thinking too seriously towards something.The fact that we've got 45 characters in this game and we only have 1 black American dude on this roster (who was created 30 years ago) is something I don't like because I like being represented in a game because I like seeing people who look like me in media. There's been numerous threads, posts on social media and comments in videos about the lack of representation in this game and now that continues when this guy's announced. It doesn't matter if it's videogames, wrestling, movies, music, whatever. To you it doesn't matter but to me it does matter. You can't say "I think you're taking it too seriously" when you're placing your own interests on it as if it's a blanket statement that extends to everyone when really that's a personal statement. What I like and what I love doesn't translate into you and vice versa.
As for us playing a game, this isn't some "hey guys let's play if you're that mad about it thing", you honestly think me playing a game is going to make me happy knowing I don't see more people like myself in a game series I've loved since elementary school? Really? When this game's got 45 characters? That's why I asked if your post was a joke post because part of what you said looked like a threat trying to take a knock on my post because you disagreed and now you're here talking about playing matches. Dude, that's not how things work.
I brought up the ban comment because I'm being honest, if you're trying to say my opinion towards this is wrong and I'm not allowed to feel this way I'll take a permanent ban on this. Representation is serious to me and many others and if it's some type of joke and if someone's gonna be like "hey go calm down" then ban me because I'd rather be banned than be in a place where voices are being silenced towards people wanting to be represented in something they enjoy. I'm dead serious.
This isn't funny.
Okay, you wanna know why I reacted that way initially? I was frustrated. That’s all. And no, it’s NOT something I like seeing here. But I know there’s nothing I can do about that. I wasn’t trying to discipline you for your opinion. So I apologize if I gave that impression. You’re not wrong for feeling that way. Representation in media is important and fine with me, always has been. And yeah, maybe SF needs more diversity, but this new dude isn’t a deal breaker for me. I offered you a chance to play my Luke because I wanted to relive any tension. That’s it, I just want to have fun playing the game. But I realize I probably f***ed that up, so I’m sorry. If you don’t understand how I feel, I’ll just go away and leave you alone. I just hope you don’t feel like I’m some kind of creep for wanting to enjoy something. It's all good, apology accepted. You can feel that way, that's your opinion and I've got no problem with it, I feel different and we're allowed to think differently about it. There's nothing wrong with anyone who wants to enjoy Luke or any character. Just because I can't doesn't mean you have to feel the same.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Aug 5, 2021 21:10:50 GMT -5
If the Street Fighter universe didn't have enough wrestlers already, a black pro wrestler in the vein of Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods would be cool.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 5, 2021 21:15:53 GMT -5
Okay, you wanna know why I reacted that way initially? I was frustrated. That’s all. And no, it’s NOT something I like seeing here. But I know there’s nothing I can do about that. I wasn’t trying to discipline you for your opinion. So I apologize if I gave that impression. You’re not wrong for feeling that way. Representation in media is important and fine with me, always has been. And yeah, maybe SF needs more diversity, but this new dude isn’t a deal breaker for me. I offered you a chance to play my Luke because I wanted to relive any tension. That’s it, I just want to have fun playing the game. But I realize I probably f***ed that up, so I’m sorry. If you don’t understand how I feel, I’ll just go away and leave you alone. I just hope you don’t feel like I’m some kind of creep for wanting to enjoy something. It's all good, apology accepted. You can feel that way, that's your opinion and I've got no problem with it, I feel different and we're allowed to think differently about it. There's nothing wrong with anyone who wants to enjoy Luke or any character. Just because I can't doesn't mean you have to feel the same. This whole back-and-forth is actually the kind of thing I get ultra-sensitive/ultra-paranoid about, due to being mixed, and having been told so many times "You ain't really black" by others, especially if it looks like I don't go where the cultural winds blow.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 0:33:45 GMT -5
It's all good, apology accepted. You can feel that way, that's your opinion and I've got no problem with it, I feel different and we're allowed to think differently about it. There's nothing wrong with anyone who wants to enjoy Luke or any character. Just because I can't doesn't mean you have to feel the same. This whole back-and-forth is actually the kind of thing I get ultra-sensitive/ultra-paranoid about, due to being mixed, and having been told so many times "You ain't really black" by others, especially if it looks like I don't go where the cultural winds blow. I'm sorry you've gone through life getting that. Even though I'm not mixed I got the whole "you're acting white" and "wow you're different from the others" thing a lot. I feel ya. Luke's race aside I just think they could have done a better job. His moveset looks dope though and based on what little we know of his character by his lines, I got no issue with those parts. He might be cool in the end or at least cooler that I think now. We don't know anything about where this is headed and being the future of SF doesn't naturally mean the main. He could be the Ken which would honestly make more sense. We will see. It's not like they can't remove all those stars on dude if they wanted to lol. For as far as we know we're gonna be seeing more black Americans in 6, who knows.
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Post by MrElijah on Aug 6, 2021 8:45:57 GMT -5
It's all good, apology accepted. You can feel that way, that's your opinion and I've got no problem with it, I feel different and we're allowed to think differently about it. There's nothing wrong with anyone who wants to enjoy Luke or any character. Just because I can't doesn't mean you have to feel the same. This whole back-and-forth is actually the kind of thing I get ultra-sensitive/ultra-paranoid about, due to being mixed, and having been told so many times "You ain't really black" by others, especially if it looks like I don't go where the cultural winds blow. As a black man, I find the whole "not black enough" argument to be the most asinine f***ing thing. So what you're not dark or mixed, you're black! That's it! It boggles my f***ing mind about that line of thinking. Now with that out tbe way, prediction time: Luke is Charlie's boy.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Aug 17, 2021 23:50:05 GMT -5
For those curious... {Spoiler}Rose and now Oro have confirmed that G is much more then he seems, like he's some embodiment of calamity.
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Post by chrom on Dec 4, 2021 19:20:34 GMT -5
So the last character's backstory is a generic "Father was killed in Terrorist attack and joins The Army to avenge him."
Don't we have that already with Chun Li, you mean to tell me that we couldn't have gotten T-Hawk or Sodom instead?
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Post by Spider2024 on Dec 4, 2021 19:27:35 GMT -5
So the last character's backstory is a generic "Father was killed in Terrorist attack and joins The Army to avenge him." Don't we have that already with Chun Li, you mean to tell me that we couldn't have gotten T-Hawk or Sodom instead? Also it's basically a diet caffeine-free version of Guile's story.
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Post by chrom on Dec 4, 2021 19:47:31 GMT -5
At this rate I even would've taken Peter, the old police officer Cammy beat up
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 4, 2021 20:30:16 GMT -5
At this rate I even would've taken Peter, the old police officer Cammy beat up Who is really just a self insert of Combofiend, one of the Capcom designers. What we need is DLC for SF6 of PunkDaGod, Daigo, and Nephew.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 4, 2021 21:05:56 GMT -5
So the last character's backstory is a generic "Father was killed in Terrorist attack and joins The Army to avenge him." Don't we have that already with Chun Li, you mean to tell me that we couldn't have gotten T-Hawk or Sodom instead? Sodom, I agree with. But no one ever cares about T. Hawk. XD
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 5, 2021 0:12:38 GMT -5
should have gotten Dudley...
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 5, 2021 0:18:51 GMT -5
Also, it does seem strange to market Luke as a MMA guy, when his whole story was about the Military.
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