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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 12, 2014 11:34:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm over it. Kevin is still Kevin, anyway. I really don't know what to tell people that are having a hard time with Kevin Owens. Don't be that guy. I'm just glad they're getting actual human names and not crappy NXT names or MONSTER WRASSLER NAMES, like it's 1995 or something. If WWE wants something to trademark, I would honestly prefer a "monster wrassler name".
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 12, 2014 11:49:17 GMT -5
It is strange having to learn two names for everybody, you just get used to one and it instantly changes.
(Obviously that's from somebody who wasn't familiar with the majority of recent signings)
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Post by Dub H on Dec 12, 2014 11:54:18 GMT -5
Never cared about names being changed,probably never will.
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Post by Malibu Stacy on Dec 12, 2014 12:13:22 GMT -5
Steen is the only one I was really familiar with prior to his signing and it's pretty much a lateral move as far as name changes go. I'm down with it. Plus, it's an homage to his son, who's name is itself an homage to Owen Hart (or so I heard), so that's pretty neat.
As for the others, I'm not to crazy about Dean Ambrose. Mostly cuz I think "Jon Moxley" sounds super sexy and badass. And I really dislike "Hideo Itami". It's boring, not terribly fun to say, and all around just makes me agree even more with the people who think if WWE are going to keep renaming for trademark reasons, they should give names befitting larger-than-life pro wrestling characters instead of names befitting telemarketers or bank tellers.
That said, I love "Solomon Crowe". Wonderful name!
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Post by Cyno on Dec 12, 2014 12:27:06 GMT -5
I adjust to them fine. Folks who refer to them as their previous names always come off as massive douchebags trying to show off their indy cred. The worst was when Bryan first arrived, and you had a few people on here going "Oh, you mean Danielson" when people referred to D-Bry. Or the worst, folks calling him "Daniel Bryan Danielson" and thinking they're the smartest f***ers ever. I respectfully disagree, DBD is still one of my favourite nicknames for him. And I really don't feel like a douche for calling him AmDrag from time to time. I haven't resisted the name Daniel Bryan at all, very rarely do I refer to him as Danielson, but DBD and AmDrag just roll off the tongue so I'll probably always use those to some extent. As for the rest of the new signings, Steen to Owens is taking some getting used to, but I think I'll transition pretty quick. Itami and Balor I was okay with from the start, and while I occasionally slip up and call Itami KENTA, for the most part it's not a big issue. And Bryan Danielson is his real name anyway. And it's also used on Total Divas. So fans calling him "Bryan Danielson" is fine in my book as he and WWE aren't shy about "Daniel Bryan" being a stage name. The only one that seems weird to me is KENTA because he was signed and advertised as such, including his initial debut in NXT. I get the feeling that was a battle fought by Triple H against Vince/Marketing, and Trips lost.
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Post by Regal Stretch on Dec 12, 2014 12:50:45 GMT -5
In the end, the only benefit the WWE would have to keep an existing name is if the name is already a draw (and only the KENTA one recently would approach that). Names like Steen, El Generico, Danielson etc. may have gotten over in the indies, but people following indies only make up a fraction of the audience, so why should WWE care?
In the end, a name is a f***ing name, there are bigger things in the world to worry about than the name of a wrestler being changed.
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Post by Fuji's racist salt on Dec 12, 2014 13:48:18 GMT -5
KENTA is the one i struggle with
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2014 13:52:05 GMT -5
I had a hard time remembering Cesaro's indie name the other day.
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Post by sonofblaine on Dec 12, 2014 14:03:29 GMT -5
It took a little time to get used to Itami. The same is happening with Owens. When I talk or think about him, I keep refering to him as Steen. It's not smarky stubborness, just habit.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Dec 12, 2014 18:02:50 GMT -5
Kevin Owens, easy peasy. KO initials, fits his character. it works.
Itami will take forever to get used to as he's KENTA to me.
Devitt was a tough sell. I was like why not just remove one of the T's off the end of his name and call him Devit? I dunno. Once I heard the name pronounced and realized it was Baa-lor and not Bay-lor it was easier to accept. The name Baa-lor sounds better and in red font on the tron looks awesome. Drop the Finn bit and he's set.
and I will always be a DBD/AmDrag guy. I'll call him Daniel Bryan, but he's not that to me. I watched him from early on, it's still hard to make the name change stick. It's like if Samoa Joe came to WWE, and changed his name, he'd always be Samoa Joe to me.
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Post by Woo on Dec 12, 2014 18:15:01 GMT -5
I call Becky Lynch "Rebecca Knox" every now and then as it's what I'm most familar with. I still think "Paige" isn't great. It should at least be something Knight I think. That way they could talk about the legendary Knight family and her background more.
I do keep forgetting Neville's name so call him PAC often.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 12, 2014 18:18:31 GMT -5
Most of the name changes are reasonable (and I am another "using the indy name just makes you sound like an asshat" person); the big name stars will need to start with a name that can be trademarked by WWE- for both sides' benefit (the wrestler can get a name so they can leave WWE and use their own wrestling name, and the WWE gets a name they can own). The bigger stars keep their name.
The smaller stars have to sink or swim a bit, which is a problem- but we've also seen from Trent Barreta's rebirth on the indy scene that WWE can be relatively reasonable for those wrestlers...as long as they don't try jumping to TNA with their WWE name, they don't seem to care if one uses their WWE on smaller cards.
The only time a name change doesn't work for me isn't for indy people, but when the WWE's own canon and storyline makes it so that the name doesn't fit in their own kayfabe and should be different (best example there: The WWE Hall of Famer- Eddie GUERRERO. His widow, top WWE star Vickie GUERRERO. And their daughter....uh, Raquel DIAZ?)
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Post by percymania on Dec 12, 2014 20:55:35 GMT -5
I don't really watch much indy wrestling so it's pretty easy for me.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 12, 2014 21:15:12 GMT -5
Most of the name changes are reasonable (and I am another "using the indy name just makes you sound like an asshat" person); the big name stars will need to start with a name that can be trademarked by WWE- for both sides' benefit (the wrestler can get a name so they can leave WWE and use their own wrestling name, and the WWE gets a name they can own). The bigger stars keep their name. The smaller stars have to sink or swim a bit, which is a problem- but we've also seen from Trent Barreta's rebirth on the indy scene that WWE can be relatively reasonable for those wrestlers...as long as they don't try jumping to TNA with their WWE name, they don't seem to care if one uses their WWE on smaller cards. The only time a name change doesn't work for me isn't for indy people, but when the WWE's own canon and storyline makes it so that the name doesn't fit in their own kayfabe and should be different (best example there: The WWE Hall of Famer- Eddie GUERRERO. His widow, top WWE star Vickie GUERRERO. And their daughter....uh, Raquel DIAZ?) Michael McGillicutty...
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Dec 12, 2014 21:30:25 GMT -5
I do keep forgetting Neville's name so call him PAC often. This is the one I struggle with the most. Even last night, I kept wanting to call him Pac. I think just because its an easy, one syllable name.
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Post by CM Dazz on Dec 12, 2014 22:47:49 GMT -5
Kevin Owens, easy peasy. KO initials, fits his character. it works. Itami will take forever to get used to as he's KENTA to me. Devitt was a tough sell. I was like why not just remove one of the T's off the end of his name and call him Devit? I dunno. Once I heard the name pronounced and realized it was Baa-lor and not Bay-lor it was easier to accept. The name Baa-lor sounds better and in red font on the tron looks awesome. Drop the Finn bit and he's set. and I will always be a DBD/AmDrag guy. I'll call him Daniel Bryan, but he's not that to me. I watched him from early on, it's still hard to make the name change stick. It's like if Samoa Joe came to WWE, and changed his name, he'd always be Samoa Joe to me. I'm fine with Finn Bálor. Sounds kinda badass to me. If we're going to use only one name for someone, wouldn't it make sense to drop Hideo, & just use Itami? Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, shouldn't it just be Hideo? Like Ichiro.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 12, 2014 22:52:44 GMT -5
Most of the name changes are reasonable (and I am another "using the indy name just makes you sound like an asshat" person); the big name stars will need to start with a name that can be trademarked by WWE- for both sides' benefit (the wrestler can get a name so they can leave WWE and use their own wrestling name, and the WWE gets a name they can own). The bigger stars keep their name. The smaller stars have to sink or swim a bit, which is a problem- but we've also seen from Trent Barreta's rebirth on the indy scene that WWE can be relatively reasonable for those wrestlers...as long as they don't try jumping to TNA with their WWE name, they don't seem to care if one uses their WWE on smaller cards. The only time a name change doesn't work for me isn't for indy people, but when the WWE's own canon and storyline makes it so that the name doesn't fit in their own kayfabe and should be different (best example there: The WWE Hall of Famer- Eddie GUERRERO. His widow, top WWE star Vickie GUERRERO. And their daughter....uh, Raquel DIAZ?) The problem I have with this is that the majority of those smaller names pretty much stuck with either having to either change their identities or sacrificing their relevance. If a WWE performer has been established to the fanbase with that WWE name, they should be allowed to wrestle for TNA, or a major indy (if they can hang in the ring) under that name or something close to it.
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Post by DoubleDare on Dec 12, 2014 22:53:27 GMT -5
In my mind they still look like this
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Post by CM Dazz on Dec 12, 2014 22:56:25 GMT -5
In my mind they still look like this Like a couple of college kids? Cuz that's what they look like right there.
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Post by FinalGwen on Dec 12, 2014 22:57:31 GMT -5
Yes, but it doesn't mean they are good names. Dean Ambrose, Finn Balor, Hideo Itami, Kevin Owens, etc....are not names suited to what should be larger than life wrestling superstars Even "Daniel Bryan" is a pretty dull shitty name. To be fair, though, many of the most long-lasting and iconic wrestlers had names that didn't exactly set the world on fire if not for what we associate with them. Names like Bruno Sammartino, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, John Cena, they're all pretty dull to a non-wrestling fan. There's a couple that throw in a characteristic like Hulk Hogan or Ric Flair, but neither seems as interesting as Finn Balor, given its mythlological connotations.
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