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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 16:25:52 GMT -5
Wyatt has main evented several PPV's this year, been in the best match on several and just won the main event of the last PPV and this past RAW clean. Harper comes out to absolute silence and the only times he gets any reaction is a ladder match spot that nearly removes his arm or when he hits a high impact move. He can't even get the yeahyeahyeah thing over with the audience after 18 months. Really not seeing the Harper above Wyatt stuff at all. The guy can flat out wrestle, though. Harper is pretty much most of the time in the best performances of the night in the ring. And that's amazing cause of his size. If you put the two things together, the sky's the limit with him, if they don't have huge plans for him, it won't make much sense. Cause he has all the elements. I am a fan of him, don't get me wrong. I just think as a "total package" for what WWE wants, Bray Wyatt is infinitely more equipped though. Harper has to find a way to integrate his physical abilities into something people care for, not pop for when it happens. You can argue Bray has what Harper is currently missing while Harper has what Bray is currently missing. Which is why I am annoyed the Wyatt's were dumped to begin with. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 20:01:08 GMT -5
He should be a zombie that cannot feel pain. Just an unstoppable monster. He already has the out there mannerisms: the glassy look, talking to himself, never changes his clothes. He doesn't have to be the Undertaker but I want him to be a juggernaut with an insane pain threshold. He just keeps moving forward like the Korean Zombie.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 20:05:24 GMT -5
He should be a zombie that cannot feel pain. Just an unstoppable monster. He already has the out there mannerisms: the glassy look, talking to himself, never changes his clothes. He doesn't have to be the Undertaker but I want him to be a juggernaut with an insane pain threshold. He just keeps moving forward like the Korean Zombie. That'd be an interesting character. Like Undertaker, make him someone who can physically be beaten down, but it's more of a matter of knocking him unconscious or just holding him down (or in the case of submissions, making it so that on the off chance he has to lose, he just can't get out and the bell rings). Nothing intimidates him and he has no real sense of pain. Though it might be tough for him to get the hang of not making any sounds when he has to execute or sell moves. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 25, 2014 20:06:45 GMT -5
be sure to sing "The Way They're Handling Harper" to the tune of "The Way You Make Me Feel." you're guaranteed at least a few minutes of entertainment
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Post by SenorCrest on Dec 25, 2014 23:31:49 GMT -5
Luke Harper is a beast. The guy just has some presence I can not put my finger on. I remember he cut a promo on the shield at a smackdown and I was like 'holy f*** yes!' I think they should have Bray sit him down and put those headphones on him again and revive Luke into this guy that feel very little pain.
I hope there is a good future with him and having him lose that IC title felt both wrong and gave me that 'loosing faith in him' vibe. He, however, had a good match with Cena so who knows.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 25, 2014 23:38:58 GMT -5
^I was okay with Harper losing the IC Belt. I like Harper enough and he's damn good, but I feel like the IC Title needed Dolph more than Harper needed it.
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Post by benstudd on Dec 26, 2014 4:01:51 GMT -5
The guy can flat out wrestle, though. Harper is pretty much most of the time in the best performances of the night in the ring. And that's amazing cause of his size. If you put the two things together, the sky's the limit with him, if they don't have huge plans for him, it won't make much sense. Cause he has all the elements. I am a fan of him, don't get me wrong. I just think as a "total package" for what WWE wants, Bray Wyatt is infinitely more equipped though. Harper has to find a way to integrate his physical abilities into something people care for, not pop for when it happens. You can argue Bray has what Harper is currently missing while Harper has what Bray is currently missing. Which is why I am annoyed the Wyatt's were dumped to begin with. The thing that Luke may lack that Wyatt though is that they let Bray talk. I know a monster can be his thing but if Harper have to go ahead in this business I feel he must talk to get into meaningful feuds and get pushed. Anyway that's the way it worked in the WWE. |
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Post by benstudd on Dec 26, 2014 4:02:02 GMT -5
The guy can flat out wrestle, though. Harper is pretty much most of the time in the best performances of the night in the ring. And that's amazing cause of his size. If you put the two things together, the sky's the limit with him, if they don't have huge plans for him, it won't make much sense. Cause he has all the elements. I am a fan of him, don't get me wrong. I just think as a "total package" for what WWE wants, Bray Wyatt is infinitely more equipped though. Harper has to find a way to integrate his physical abilities into something people care for, not pop for when it happens. You can argue Bray has what Harper is currently missing while Harper has what Bray is currently missing. Which is why I am annoyed the Wyatt's were dumped to begin with. Hey |
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Post by benstudd on Dec 26, 2014 4:02:30 GMT -5
The guy can flat out wrestle, though. Harper is pretty much most of the time in the best performances of the night in the ring. And that's amazing cause of his size. If you put the two things together, the sky's the limit with him, if they don't have huge plans for him, it won't make much sense. Cause he has all the elements. I am a fan of him, don't get me wrong. I just think as a "total package" for what WWE wants, Bray Wyatt is infinitely more equipped though. Harper has to find a way to integrate his physical abilities into something people care for, not pop for when it happens. You can argue Bray has what Harper is currently missing while Harper has what Bray is currently missing. Which is why I am annoyed the Wyatt's were dumped to begin with. WTF |
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Post by benstudd on Dec 26, 2014 4:02:47 GMT -5
The guy can flat out wrestle, though. Harper is pretty much most of the time in the best performances of the night in the ring. And that's amazing cause of his size. If you put the two things together, the sky's the limit with him, if they don't have huge plans for him, it won't make much sense. Cause he has all the elements. I am a fan of him, don't get me wrong. I just think as a "total package" for what WWE wants, Bray Wyatt is infinitely more equipped though. Harper has to find a way to integrate his physical abilities into something people care for, not pop for when it happens. You can argue Bray has what Harper is currently missing while Harper has what Bray is currently missing. Which is why I am annoyed the Wyatt's were dumped to begin with. The thing that Luke may lack that Wyatt has though is that they let Bray talk. I know a monster can be his thing but if Harper have to go ahead in this business I feel he must talk to get into meaningful feuds and get pushed. Anyway that's the way it works in the WWE. |
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Post by benstudd on Dec 26, 2014 4:03:56 GMT -5
The guy can flat out wrestle, though. Harper is pretty much most of the time in the best performances of the night in the ring. And that's amazing cause of his size. If you put the two things together, the sky's the limit with him, if they don't have huge plans for him, it won't make much sense. Cause he has all the elements. I am a fan of him, don't get me wrong. I just think as a "total package" for what WWE wants, Bray Wyatt is infinitely more equipped though. Harper has to find a way to integrate his physical abilities into something people care for, not pop for when it happens. You can argue Bray has what Harper is currently missing while Harper has what Bray is currently missing. Which is why I am annoyed the Wyatt's were dumped to begin with. Holly Jim Branzell my computer has had too many Holiday drinks. |
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 26, 2014 4:07:50 GMT -5
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 26, 2014 9:20:21 GMT -5
Personally felt that the match with Dolph on Raw made Harper look like a beast. Harper is in a good position though. He's big enough that he can always be booked as a threat. And unlike some of the other big men in WWE right now, he doesn't have the wear and tear on his body so he can do more in the ring, and/or he's athletic enough that he can do things that will keep him and his opponent over.
While some may disagree, wrestling still needs monsters that can be slain, and anymore it's hard to find a credible monster that can stay over. Knowing what Harper is capable of, I think he's one of those rare cases anymore that can stay over.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 26, 2014 9:23:29 GMT -5
Personally felt that the match with Dolph on Raw made Harper look like a beast. Harper is in a good position though. He's big enough that he can always be booked as a threat. And unlike some of the other big men in WWE right now, he doesn't have the wear and tear on his body so he can do more in the ring, and/or he's athletic enough that he can do things that will keep him and his opponent over. While some may disagree, wrestling still needs monsters that can be slain, and anymore it's hard to find a credible monster that can stay over. Knowing what Harper is capable of, I think he's one of those rare cases anymore that can stay over. Harper's in a great position, I think. As much as we joke about them actually doing so, Big Show, Kane and Mark Henry aren't going to go forever, so if Harper can last until they're gone, he could possibly be in their role for the next decade or so. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 26, 2014 9:32:48 GMT -5
Personally felt that the match with Dolph on Raw made Harper look like a beast. Harper is in a good position though. He's big enough that he can always be booked as a threat. And unlike some of the other big men in WWE right now, he doesn't have the wear and tear on his body so he can do more in the ring, and/or he's athletic enough that he can do things that will keep him and his opponent over. While some may disagree, wrestling still needs monsters that can be slain, and anymore it's hard to find a credible monster that can stay over. Knowing what Harper is capable of, I think he's one of those rare cases anymore that can stay over. Harper's in a great position, I think. As much as we joke about them actually doing so, Big Show, Kane and Mark Henry aren't going to go forever, so if Harper can last until they're gone, he could possibly be in their role for the next decade or so. Oh I agree, and as bad as the angles get for them at times, Show/Kane/Henry are guys that you can (fairly) easily make credible real quick if there's someone that you want to get over into the midcard (Kane's time may be gone due to Korporate Kane, but Henry has been that guy for awhile). I don't know how Harper would do as THE champ, but I think he'd be a great guy to match up with Roman Reigns to help him in his reign as champ whenever it is. I also think for guys like Sami Zayn in NXT Harper is a great dragon to get him over. |
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