mrbananagrabber
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Dec 29, 2014 21:41:06 GMT -5
Its been said a hundred times about how creative f***ed him up, how they neutred him, paired him with Heyman who did nothing for him..
But after tonight, I think we can all agree "it", his main event push everyone wanted, is never going to happen. When you have a "shoot" promo, botch it, and then LOSE...yeah you're done.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 29, 2014 21:41:45 GMT -5
Maybe if he didn't look like a walking penis, he'd get farther.
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 29, 2014 21:43:28 GMT -5
People said that when Damian Sandow "broke character" a few times. Now he's one of the most over parts of the show. Let the man find his niche.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 21:44:09 GMT -5
Meh. Cesaro's weird for me, I absolutely think they've wasted him and he's been f***ed by the system but I'm not that bothered by it because as a solo act he's never entertained me. It does irritate me but it's more because of what it says about the product as a whole.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 29, 2014 21:44:19 GMT -5
Like I said in the Raw thread, at this point the fourth rope is a noose for his career
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Dec 29, 2014 21:46:37 GMT -5
People said that when Damian Sandow "broke character" a few times. Now he's one of the most over parts of the show. Let the man find his niche. Yeah, give him a hot valet. Or a hat. Make him yodel. Make him talk in five languages. Give him the best talker in the business. Put him in a tag team. Give him a dressing gown. Make him walk like he's shit his pants. Make him swing people. Only one of those things worked and they took it away from him. No-one was saying Sandow was going to be main event, but they've waited years for it to happen for Cesaro and it is never going to happen.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 29, 2014 21:47:16 GMT -5
It's never over for someone until they're actually fired. I've seen enough wrestling to know that to be true.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Dec 29, 2014 21:47:51 GMT -5
He was doing pretty well up until the night after Mania, and now they've probably just found themselves a nice excuse to stick a fork in him and tell everyone they told us so. The promo was about as bad as any Roman Reigns snoozefest, and I guess with the amount of praise everyone's giving that Ryback promo the tofu pseudocsicnece of The Secret and harnessing positive energy must work because that was about as f***ing bad too with about as many stutters.
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 29, 2014 21:48:31 GMT -5
People said that when Damian Sandow "broke character" a few times. Now he's one of the most over parts of the show. Let the man find his niche. Yeah, give him a hot valet. Or a hat. Make him yodel. Make him talk in five languages. Give him the best talker in the business. Put him in a tag team. Give him a dressing gown. Make him walk like he's shit his pants. Make him swing people. Only one of those things worked and they took it away from him. No-one was saying Sandow was going to be main event, but they've waited years for it to happen for Cesaro and it is never going to happen. Book him to actually win some matches and be part of a storyline the audience an actually care about?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 29, 2014 21:50:58 GMT -5
It's never over for someone until they're actually fired. I've seen enough wrestling to know that to be true. Next week, Cesaro grabs a mic and says I know way too many people here right now that I didn't know last year who the f*** are y'all? I swear it feels like the last few nights we've been everywhere and back but I just can't remember it all what am I doing, what am I doing? oh yeah thats right, I'm doing me, I'm doing me I'm living life right now man and this what I'm do 'til it's over 'til it's over, it's far from over
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Post by DoubleDare on Dec 29, 2014 21:52:30 GMT -5
A shame, I just got a king of swing shirt, was on clearance at hot topic for $10. Such a badass shirt tho! I still got hope for him!
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Post by chazraps on Dec 29, 2014 21:52:36 GMT -5
It's never over for someone until they're actually fired. I've seen enough wrestling to know that to be true. Next week, Cesaro grabs a mic and says I know way too many people here right now that I didn't know last year who the f*** are y'all? I swear it feels like the last few nights we've been everywhere and back but I just can't remember it all what am I doing, what am I doing? oh yeah thats right, I'm doing me, I'm doing me I'm living life right now man and this what I'm do 'til it's over 'til it's over, it's far from over I'd still take Drakesaro over slam poet Kofi Kingston.
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Post by Malibu Stacy on Dec 29, 2014 22:13:13 GMT -5
A shame, I just got a king of swing shirt, was on clearance at hot topic for $10. Me too! I'm... actually wearing mine right now. I was wearing a Cesaro shirt while watching "four ropes"
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Dec 29, 2014 22:21:06 GMT -5
Its been said a hundred times about how creative f***ed him up, how they neutred him, paired him with Heyman who did nothing for him.. But after tonight, I think we can all agree "it", his main event push everyone wanted, is never going to happen. When you have a "shoot" promo, botch it, and then LOSE...yeah you're done. So, we shouldn't talk about how booking has hurt his career, and half the evidence for that is... that he was booked to lose?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 22:26:08 GMT -5
2 Swiss 4 Ropes
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Post by A damn road sign on Dec 30, 2014 0:02:17 GMT -5
Maybe if he didn't look like a walking penis, he'd get farther. #2PHALLIC
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 0:03:31 GMT -5
After Sandow got over I think it's definitely possible for Cesaro.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 0:10:47 GMT -5
After Sandow got over I think it's definitely possible for Cesaro. There is a key difference though - Sandow has charisma. Cesaro really doesn't. Plus Sandow was over at points before he got run into the ground, the only time Cesaro's gotten a good reaction was the period when they were building up a face turn for him that never happened. I do think if they'd just let him go back to swinging people and showing other acts of crazy amounts of strength, gave him decent music, and just made him a damn face he could be over but he is never catching on as a heel. Ever. He has had a rainbow worth of gimmicks and it has never worked.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 0:15:16 GMT -5
After Sandow got over I think it's definitely possible for Cesaro. There is a key difference though - Sandow has charisma. Cesaro really doesn't. Plus Sandow was over at points before he got run into the ground, the only time Cesaro's gotten a good reaction was the period when they were building up a face turn for him that never happened. I do think if they'd just let him go back to swinging people and showing other acts of crazy amounts of strength, gave him decent music, and just made him a damn face he could be over but he is never catching on as a heel. Ever. He has had a rainbow worth of gimmicks and it has never worked. Doesn't matter, it's not about charisma all the way it's about having talent in particular areas. Cesaro is a great wrestler and he's gifted, he has a lot of people backing him even though a lot apparently don't see a thing in him. That in itself will get him over in due time. It'll happen, I'm not sure when but it'll happen. Could take years for all we know.
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Post by CuJ0 Will Keep Dancing on Dec 30, 2014 0:24:59 GMT -5
f*** it, since the WWE has been retconning a bunch of stuff lately just put him back with Swagger and pretend the last several months never happened.
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