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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 17:47:34 GMT -5
Why does everyone assume Bryan is not healthy? If the dude says he can go, and the doctors are OK with it, then let him go. Because he should have been back months ago if he had had the surgery that was recommended. Instead he relied on acupuncture, herbal tea, holistic-approved dog shit rubs and etc, which put his returning at ALL in jeopardy. The uncertainty surrounding him is absolutely justified. There's a half-dozen options here: 1) Bryan's really not ready, gets wrote off before the Rumble thanks to the Authority's shenanigans. (Pisses off the fans)2) Bryan's ready enough for a protected spot in the Rumble but not a full-time return. He doesn't win, of course. (Pisses off the fans)
3) Bryan's 100%, competes in the Rumble, doesn't win. (Pisses off the fans)4) Bryan's 100%, competes in the Rumble, wins, gets shafted out of his shot before WM. (Pisses off the fans)5) Bryan's 100%, wins Rumble, loses at WM. (Pisses off the fans)6) Bryan wins Rumble, wins title at WM. WWE has definitely painted themselves into a corner by announcing he will be in the Rumble.
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Post by King Devitt on Dec 30, 2014 17:48:31 GMT -5
But the real question is-is Bryan front? Not in my world. in my world Bryan is all back. *giggity*
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Dec 30, 2014 17:57:14 GMT -5
If he's not, didn't WWE learn what happened last year when you tease Bryan for the Rumble and it doesn't happen? To be fair, they never actually teased Bryan for anything other than his match with Bray. People just sort of hoped that he'd be in it and win and get a fair shot for the title, while Vince McMahon thought that more than like 5 people on the planet were clamoring for a gassed blown up Dave Batista (God only knows why).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 18:01:16 GMT -5
If he's not, didn't WWE learn what happened last year when you tease Bryan for the Rumble and it doesn't happen? To be fair, they never actually teased Bryan for anything other than his match with Bray. People just sort of hoped that he'd be in it and win and get a fair shot for the title, while Vince McMahon thought that more than like 5 people on the planet were clamoring for a gassed blown up Dave Batista (God only knows why). If anything the fact that they've announced him will make the blowback even worse when he either doesn't compete in it or doesn't win it. They went crazy for him on an assumption that he'd be there... imagine how much worse it will be with a certainty.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Dec 30, 2014 18:01:55 GMT -5
Why does everyone assume Bryan is not healthy? If the dude says he can go, and the doctors are OK with it, then let him go. Because he should have been back months ago if he had had the surgery that was recommended. Instead he relied on acupuncture, herbal tea, holistic-approved dog shit rubs and etc, which put his returning at ALL in jeopardy. The uncertainty surrounding him is absolutely justified. There's a half-dozen options here: 1) Bryan's really not ready, gets wrote off before the Rumble thanks to the Authority's shenanigans. (Pisses off the fans)2) Bryan's ready enough for a protected spot in the Rumble but not a full-time return. He doesn't win, of course. (Pisses off the fans)
3) Bryan's 100%, competes in the Rumble, doesn't win. (Pisses off the fans)4) Bryan's 100%, competes in the Rumble, wins, gets shafted out of his shot before WM. (Pisses off the fans)5) Bryan's 100%, wins Rumble, loses at WM. (Pisses off the fans)6) Bryan wins Rumble, wins title at WM. WWE has definitely painted themselves into a corner by announcing he will be in the Rumble. He had the neck surgery. The one he didn't have was the Tommy John surgery. And maybe, just maybe, he ended up not really needing that. So, I don't know where that part of your rant came from.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 18:22:21 GMT -5
Because he should have been back months ago if he had had the surgery that was recommended. Instead he relied on acupuncture, herbal tea, holistic-approved dog shit rubs and etc, which put his returning at ALL in jeopardy. The uncertainty surrounding him is absolutely justified. He had the neck surgery. The one he didn't have was the Tommy John surgery. And maybe, just maybe, he ended up not really needing that. So, I don't know where that part of your rant came from. I never said he didn't have the neck surgery. I said he didn't have the surgery that was recommended and that he would have most likely been back much sooner (if he is indeed back) if he had had it. My point wasn't a "rant" as much as an explanation behind the reasoning that he might not be ready. Which, again, I feel is a justified concern.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 30, 2014 19:21:43 GMT -5
Because he should have been back months ago if he had had the surgery that was recommended. Instead he relied on acupuncture, herbal tea, holistic-approved dog shit rubs and etc, which put his returning at ALL in jeopardy. The uncertainty surrounding him is absolutely justified. There's a half-dozen options here: 1) Bryan's really not ready, gets wrote off before the Rumble thanks to the Authority's shenanigans. (Pisses off the fans)2) Bryan's ready enough for a protected spot in the Rumble but not a full-time return. He doesn't win, of course. (Pisses off the fans)
3) Bryan's 100%, competes in the Rumble, doesn't win. (Pisses off the fans)4) Bryan's 100%, competes in the Rumble, wins, gets shafted out of his shot before WM. (Pisses off the fans)5) Bryan's 100%, wins Rumble, loses at WM. (Pisses off the fans)6) Bryan wins Rumble, wins title at WM. WWE has definitely painted themselves into a corner by announcing he will be in the Rumble. He had the neck surgery. The one he didn't have was the Tommy John surgery. And maybe, just maybe, he ended up not really needing that. So, I don't know where that part of your rant came from. And even if- we don't know if he "did" have the Tommy John surgery, since ever since the "Daniel Bryan needs Tommy John surgery" claim went around the news sites, these same news sites kept saying that- while "Tommy John surgery" would sound really bad to sports fans (who know the surgery because of how common it is for baseball players...and how, when baseball players get Tommy John surgery, it will put them out of action for 18 months to 2 years)- if you're not a baseball player who's job is to throw a baseball for a living, Tommy John surgery is a LOT less of a problem then it sounds (and would only put Daniel Bryan out of action for 2-3 months...which also matches the timetable since it was claimed.)
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Dec 30, 2014 19:27:07 GMT -5
If that happened I will end up banned from here for saying really,really,nasty and vile things.
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Post by Super Nintenjoe KBD on Dec 30, 2014 19:51:22 GMT -5
Why does everyone assume Bryan is not healthy? If the dude says he can go, and the doctors are OK with it, then let him go. Because this is sports-entertainment, brother!
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Post by Blindkarevik on Dec 30, 2014 20:03:35 GMT -5
I want to look back on this thread in six months to a year and laugh at how we were worried about nothing, Bryan's fine, and has been working a full schedule.
But, I do sit here and wonder if he's a device. I mean, how can you get somebody on your side more than to attack, injure, and retire Daniel Bryan for good? Who would do that, who is capable of doing it just for the lulz? Brock Lesnar. And who needs an extra "Save Us" push going into Wrestlemania? Roman Reigns.
Honestly, the fact this came so out of the blue is what gets people questioning if this is legit or not. I mean, it served its purpose.... we were on the edge of our seats, expecting retirement, then he says he's back and we popped huge. But, I dunno....
Granted, now that I've typed that... while it would be a good angle to buy him more time... it seems pointless to bring him back just to use him as a device to get heat on someone else. But that's why I'm hoping to look back on this and laugh.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 21:40:51 GMT -5
I want to look back on this thread in six months to a year and laugh at how we were worried about nothing, Bryan's fine, and has been working a full schedule. But, I do sit here and wonder if he's a device. I mean, how can you get somebody on your side more than to attack, injure, and retire Daniel Bryan for good? Who would do that, who is capable of doing it just for the lulz? Brock Lesnar. And who needs an extra "Save Us" push going into Wrestlemania? Roman Reigns. Honestly, the fact this came so out of the blue is what gets people questioning if this is legit or not. I mean, it served its purpose.... we were on the edge of our seats, expecting retirement, then he says he's back and we popped huge. But, I dunno.... Granted, now that I've typed that... while it would be a good angle to buy him more time... it seems pointless to bring him back just to use him as a device to get heat on someone else. But that's why I'm hoping to look back on this and laugh. This is the same company that devoted a significant chunk of his and Orton's feud to building up Big Show and eventually when the crowd wasn't really responding to Big Show had him start doing the YES! chants himself. They'd absolutely sink that low.
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Dec 30, 2014 22:13:10 GMT -5
Is Bryan really back, or is this just an angle designed to get heat on the Authority? Unfortunately, I'm convinced that next week Triple H appears with a "note from Bryan's doctor", revealing that Bryan's injuries are too severe for him to get cleared to wrestle at the Rumble, or ever, and proceeds to fire him. I don't think Bryan's healthy, though of course I want to be optimistic. Your thoughts? If the Authority comes back and fires Bryan that will be a mistake of WCW putting the title back on Hogan a a week after Luger won it proportions.
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Post by Crimson on Dec 30, 2014 22:43:51 GMT -5
I think either way, he definitely can't wrestle the same style, flying across the ring, that he did before getting injured.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 0:13:16 GMT -5
I think either way, he definitely can't wrestle the same style, flying across the ring, that he did before getting injured. Honestly even if he can't, Bryan's so good it won't really matter. I've never been big on the diving headbutt and always thought he majorly overdoes the suicide dives, and Bryan's offense is so varied with his wide range of submissions and his striking that he could easily retool his arsenal without it being too hugely obvious.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 31, 2014 0:15:01 GMT -5
If he's not back, it wouldn't be a bait and switch. It would just be a case of WWE pissing off their fans yet again.
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Post by Andy Martin on Dec 31, 2014 1:09:56 GMT -5
Why does everyone assume Bryan is not healthy? If the dude says he can go, and the doctors are OK with it, then let him go. Because he should have been back months ago if he had had the surgery that was recommended. Instead he relied on acupuncture, herbal tea, holistic-approved dog shit rubs and etc, which put his returning at ALL in jeopardy. The uncertainty surrounding him is absolutely justified. There's a half-dozen options here: 1) Bryan's really not ready, gets wrote off before the Rumble thanks to the Authority's shenanigans. (Pisses off the fans)2) Bryan's ready enough for a protected spot in the Rumble but not a full-time return. He doesn't win, of course. (Pisses off the fans)
3) Bryan's 100%, competes in the Rumble, doesn't win. (Pisses off the fans)4) Bryan's 100%, competes in the Rumble, wins, gets shafted out of his shot before WM. (Pisses off the fans)5) Bryan's 100%, wins Rumble, loses at WM. (Pisses off the fans)6) Bryan wins Rumble, wins title at WM. WWE has definitely painted themselves into a corner by announcing he will be in the Rumble. Not to mention neck injuries can be a motherf***er in general.
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Post by wallabylikeyou on Dec 31, 2014 4:45:18 GMT -5
There's no way they'd bait and switch Bryan wrestling again after the backlash last year. I don't see him winning the Rumble though.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 31, 2014 4:47:02 GMT -5
But the real question is-is Bryan front? Not in my world. in my world Bryan is all back. *giggity* Damn, beaten to it.
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Post by audiencewatching on Dec 31, 2014 5:27:56 GMT -5
I suspect he'll be back on a limited schedule for the mean time, most likely PPV and TV matches only leading up to Mania.
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