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Post by karl100589 on Jan 2, 2015 18:28:02 GMT -5
i was watching a rerun of The Waterboy a few days ago and one of the things I realised upon a rewatch was just what an evil cow Helen Boucher was. This was a woman who denied her son an education, filling her son with lies and scaremongering to keep control of him, denying him the opportunity to have a normal upbringing and stopping him from having any sort of personal connections or relationships with anyone other then herself, to the extent of feigning illness to hide him away from all of those that cared for him and doing so for no other reason then her own selfishness. She is really a dark character, but because the film is a mindless Adam Sandler comedy (albeit one of the better ones) it often gets overlooked.
And it got me thinking about a discussion topic, can you also think of any other dark and notably evil characters that feature in an unlikely tv show or source material?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 18:40:57 GMT -5
My Mom is a big Little House on the Prairie fan. There was one episode where the nosy, insufferable Mrs. Oleson didn't feel comfortable letting a dwarf work for her. It got to the point where she wanted to run the dwarf and his family out of town because of his apparent deformity.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 2, 2015 18:52:52 GMT -5
Kivas Fajo from Star Trek:TNG at first just seems like a self involved manchild collector, but when you really look at the character, he's arguably one of the subtly darkest villains in the history of the franchise. There's no redeeming quality or even understandable motive for his acts. He's not a man who at least loves his family like Dukat, a genius who wants his people to succeed like Khan, a victim of his nature like the Borg, a person struggling with personal past tragedy like Nero, an entity overreacting to previous persecution like the Founders, a leader terrified of potential conquest like Kruge, a general unsure about the future like Chang, or a curious/amoral space entity. He's a completely selfish asshole who feels entitled to anything he wants, and will enslave or kill anyone who gets in his away.
That Data almost killed him is quite frankly, pretty understandable.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Jan 2, 2015 19:27:51 GMT -5
I know it may seem controversial but Odin in the Thor movies
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Post by mizerable on Jan 2, 2015 19:34:27 GMT -5
Grandpa Joe in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 19:56:20 GMT -5
Samuel L brought some strong side evil in Django. He makes himself more hateable than the high faluting plantation owner that enjoys a good man fight when he's on his leisure. That's something.
Cruel. No sense of allegiance. All about playing both sides against the middle where they come out ahead in the end. Classic stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 21:09:21 GMT -5
I'll throw in two from rated-E video games.
Clockwerk from Sly Cooper. So consumed by hate that he inflicts massive self-mutilation and turns himself into a robot seeking perfection and murders the protagonist's entire family.
The Sorceress from Spyro the Dragon. She has all the dragon eggs abducted so she can process the babies in a ritual (killing them all) for the sake of immortality.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Jan 3, 2015 3:43:17 GMT -5
Samuel L brought some strong side evil in Django. He makes himself more hateable than the high faluting plantation owner that enjoys a good man fight when he's on his leisure. That's something. Cruel. No sense of allegiance. All about playing both sides against the middle where they come out ahead in the end. Classic stuff. I just love how Stephen stays a true believer to the end. Calvin's dead, Lara's dead, there are no more members of the Candie family to kowtow to. Yet he curses Django and attests to the supremacy of Candyland up until the moment the dynamite goes off. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 3, 2015 4:32:41 GMT -5
Samuel L brought some strong side evil in Django. He makes himself more hateable than the high faluting plantation owner that enjoys a good man fight when he's on his leisure. That's something. Cruel. No sense of allegiance. All about playing both sides against the middle where they come out ahead in the end. Classic stuff. I just love how Stephen stays a true believer to the end. Calvin's dead, Lara's dead, there are no more members of the Candie family to kowtow to. Yet he curses Django and attests to the supremacy of Candyland up until the moment the dynamite goes off. Not to mention, had he just kept his mouth shut and let Django leave with Hilda without alerting his boss, he would have prevented the collapse of the whole operation to begin with. |
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 3, 2015 13:05:30 GMT -5
The brilliant thing about Stephen in that film is that his entire character completely invalidates Calvin and company's world view. He's a hyperaware and cunning black man who's much smarter than any of his white owners at Candyland. Yet he not only does he remain loyal to an unjust institution, he actively works against other blacks in spite of that he himself proves that all bandied about notions of racial superiority are complete bullshit.
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Post by Rubix Cube Johnny on Jan 3, 2015 13:34:45 GMT -5
Maester Pycelle from Game of Thrones.
Unlike Varys and Petyr Baelish who use their influence for "the good of the realm" or personal power. Pycelle doesn't really have a motive other then to be Cersei's bitch/spy, suck up to Joffrey and generally be a dick to Tyrion. He has no real goal in the game other then to be a "yes-man" to the crown and he spends his free-time harassing teenage girls.
I hate him.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Jan 3, 2015 13:55:11 GMT -5
The brilliant thing about Stephen in that film is that his entire character completely invalidates Calvin and company's world view. He's a hyperaware and cunning black man who's much smarter than any of his white owners at Candyland. Yet he not only does he remain loyal to an unjust institution, he actively works against other blacks in spite of that he himself proves that all bandied about notions of racial superiority are complete bullshit. I just love Stephen's sidebar in Calvin's study during the dinner scene. "'Thank you Stephen'. You're welcome, Calvin!" |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 3, 2015 17:05:26 GMT -5
Vince Vaughn in "The Lost World"
He causes chaos and the deaths of many people.
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Post by Mackenzie Gorn on Jan 3, 2015 18:01:05 GMT -5
The two kids from 28 Weeks later. Literally restart the outbreak single handedly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2015 18:01:54 GMT -5
Grandpa Joe in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory Deadbeat. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 3, 2015 18:25:27 GMT -5
The son in War of the Worlds is a moron of the highest order. Everything he does is douchey and stupid
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