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Post by Evilution E5150 on Jan 3, 2015 2:16:14 GMT -5
Hey kids i saw some random facebook page refer to Man Of Steel and all the follow films as Earth 1 and Flash and Arrow as Earth 2.
Now this is the first i'm hearing of it but i was wondering if WB or DC said anything regarding this making it official?
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Post by Display Name on Jan 3, 2015 3:09:12 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was Geoff Johns that said it in an interview a few months back.Not sure if it was anything official/set in stone though.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Jan 3, 2015 3:42:16 GMT -5
well he'd know on the tv end so that makes sense
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Post by wakko on Jan 3, 2015 4:12:48 GMT -5
Seems plausible as they have stated they are two separate universes. Although the tv side will have like 4 or 5 different universes or realms when Supergirl gets made.
DC has a ton of realities on the tv side.
Smallville Arrow/The Flash Gotham Supergirl
Those are the four they have or will have, plus the movie universe. Lots goin' on.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Jan 3, 2015 5:21:31 GMT -5
Seems plausible as they have stated they are two separate universes. Although the tv side will have like 4 or 5 different universes or realms when Supergirl gets made. DC has a ton of realities on the tv side. Smallville Arrow/The Flash Gotham Supergirl Those are the four they have or will have, plus the movie universe. Lots goin' on. i dont think in the current time you can count Smallville because thats been done for a while, would be like counting The Nolan trilogy in the movies also you cant include Gotham because its terrible Personally i'd like to see Constantine tie into Arrow/Flash but not to the extent that those 2 are intertwined, sorta like how it was implied that Spider-man TAS was tied into the X-men TAS and they did cross over once or twice but not all like it was a constant thing
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Post by wakko on Jan 3, 2015 5:48:10 GMT -5
Seems plausible as they have stated they are two separate universes. Although the tv side will have like 4 or 5 different universes or realms when Supergirl gets made. DC has a ton of realities on the tv side. Smallville Arrow/The Flash Gotham Supergirl Those are the four they have or will have, plus the movie universe. Lots goin' on. i dont think in the current time you can count Smallville because thats been done for a while, would be like counting The Nolan trilogy in the movies also you cant include Gotham because its terrible Personally i'd like to see Constantine tie into Arrow/Flash but not to the extent that those 2 are intertwined, sorta like how it was implied that Spider-man TAS was tied into the X-men TAS and they did cross over once or twice but not all like it was a constant thing Smallville is still active in the comics, and there is talk of doing a follow up movie so I still count it. If I read correctly, Constantine is cancelled so it doesn't matter. I agree with you, Gotham is terrible. But anyway, was just throwing my two cents into the discussion. If I were DC though, I would tie at least the Arrow/Flash Universe into the movies. But unfortunately they don't want to. At the same time though, that is okay with me because those two shows are better than the Superman movie that is restarting their universe was. As far as how it turns out in the future, I'll wait and see.
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Post by Duke Delicious on Jan 3, 2015 6:05:16 GMT -5
i dont think in the current time you can count Smallville because thats been done for a while, would be like counting The Nolan trilogy in the movies also you cant include Gotham because its terrible Personally i'd like to see Constantine tie into Arrow/Flash but not to the extent that those 2 are intertwined, sorta like how it was implied that Spider-man TAS was tied into the X-men TAS and they did cross over once or twice but not all like it was a constant thing Smallville is still active in the comics, and there is talk of doing a follow up movie so I still count it. If I read correctly, Constantine is cancelled so it doesn't matter. I agree with you, Gotham is terrible. But anyway, was just throwing my two cents into the discussion. If I were DC though, I would tie at least the Arrow/Flash Universe into the movies. But unfortunately they don't want to. At the same time though, that is okay with me because those two shows are better than the Superman movie that is restarting their universe was. As far as how it turns out in the future, I'll wait and see. Gotham is the seond best DC show on tv behind Arrow.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Jan 3, 2015 7:24:54 GMT -5
i dont think in the current time you can count Smallville because thats been done for a while, would be like counting The Nolan trilogy in the movies also you cant include Gotham because its terrible Personally i'd like to see Constantine tie into Arrow/Flash but not to the extent that those 2 are intertwined, sorta like how it was implied that Spider-man TAS was tied into the X-men TAS and they did cross over once or twice but not all like it was a constant thing Smallville is still active in the comics, and there is talk of doing a follow up movie so I still count it. If I read correctly, Constantine is cancelled so it doesn't matter. I agree with you, Gotham is terrible. But anyway, was just throwing my two cents into the discussion. If I were DC though, I would tie at least the Arrow/Flash Universe into the movies. But unfortunately they don't want to. At the same time though, that is okay with me because those two shows are better than the Superman movie that is restarting their universe was. As far as how it turns out in the future, I'll wait and see. i wasn't a fan but the Smallville comic is supposed to really good, first thing they did was bring in Batman Constantine isn't cancelled they just haven't ordered a second season yet but the option is still there, they changed the time slot and the ratings did go up so they have elected to air all 13 episodes and if the ratings are still better they may still choose to order a second season I bet that once the movies are all out the people are disappoint with the flash they'll be kicking themselves they didn't include Grant Gustin and Stephen Amell
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 3, 2015 7:32:10 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was Geoff Johns that said it in an interview a few months back.Not sure if it was anything official/set in stone though. Yep, Johns has also said he wouldn't mind doing Crisis in live action media. Hell he's made Crisis canon with The Flash.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 3, 2015 8:23:11 GMT -5
Smallville is still active in the comics, and there is talk of doing a follow up movie so I still count it. If I read correctly, Constantine is cancelled so it doesn't matter. I agree with you, Gotham is terrible. But anyway, was just throwing my two cents into the discussion. If I were DC though, I would tie at least the Arrow/Flash Universe into the movies. But unfortunately they don't want to. At the same time though, that is okay with me because those two shows are better than the Superman movie that is restarting their universe was. As far as how it turns out in the future, I'll wait and see. i wasn't a fan but the Smallville comic is supposed to really good, first thing they did was bring in Batman I was a huge fan of Smallville but I'm kinda split on the follow-up comics. On one hand it is very well written with the writers respecting the unique history of the show, and it is very hard to dislike anything that gives me more Chloe Sullivan. At the same time I read Smallville comics for things, well, Smallville. And Batman ain't Smallville. I would rather read about the characters from the show then seeing Clark interacting with brand new characters like Batman and Wonder Woman that seem to dominate the story when they show up.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Jan 3, 2015 9:16:04 GMT -5
Smallville is still active in the comics, and there is talk of doing a follow up movie so I still count it. If I read correctly, Constantine is cancelled so it doesn't matter. I agree with you, Gotham is terrible. But anyway, was just throwing my two cents into the discussion. If I were DC though, I would tie at least the Arrow/Flash Universe into the movies. But unfortunately they don't want to. At the same time though, that is okay with me because those two shows are better than the Superman movie that is restarting their universe was. As far as how it turns out in the future, I'll wait and see. Gotham is the seond best DC show on tv behind Arrow. I'd say it's the third best behind Arrow and Flash. I think it's a decent show and I do think it has potential be something really good, they just try to cram way too much in to it. If they just focused on Bullock/Gordon and the Falcone/Maroni/Penguin story rather than putting Batman references left, right and center then I think it could be a great show.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Jan 3, 2015 9:41:25 GMT -5
Gotham is the seond best DC show on tv behind Arrow. I'd say it's the third best behind Arrow and Flash. I think it's a decent show and I do think it has potential be something really good, they just try to cram way too much in to it. If they just focused on Bullock/Gordon and the Falcone/Maroni/Penguin story rather than putting Batman references left, right and center then I think it could be a great show. Gotham really is awful, it cant get the tone right, it cant work out what type of show its supposed to be. Is it a serious crime drama? Is it a superhero origin? is it the real world? is it a fantasy world where the impossible happen? It needs to make up its mind at this point i'd put it last on the DC tv shows list, I'd watch Birds Of Prey over Gotham
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Jan 3, 2015 10:34:48 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was Geoff Johns that said it in an interview a few months back.Not sure if it was anything official/set in stone though. Yep, Johns has also said he wouldn't mind doing Crisis in live action media. Hell he's made Crisis canon with The Flash. Yeah, he definitely planted the seeds. Just have to wait and see if the Movies do well. I'd kill for some crisis on the big screen. Marvel's movies started catching my attention now so I'd love if both companies can flourish on the big screen for years to come.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Jan 3, 2015 10:57:27 GMT -5
I'd say it's the third best behind Arrow and Flash. I think it's a decent show and I do think it has potential be something really good, they just try to cram way too much in to it. If they just focused on Bullock/Gordon and the Falcone/Maroni/Penguin story rather than putting Batman references left, right and center then I think it could be a great show. Gotham really is awful, it cant get the tone right, it cant work out what type of show its supposed to be. Is it a serious crime drama? Is it a superhero origin? is it the real world? is it a fantasy world where the impossible happen? It needs to make up its mind at this point i'd put it last on the DC tv shows list, I'd watch Birds Of Prey over Gotham Ouch...worse than Birds Of Prey. I get what you're saying though but I still enjoy the show. I do agree it needs to make up its mind on what kind of show it is because I do believe it can be good, it just needs to stick to one tone. Also, just to make it clear, I think it's the third best out of the current four DC shows, not of all time. Arrow and Flash are miles ahead of it and I just didn't like Constantine.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Jan 3, 2015 11:04:08 GMT -5
Gotham really is awful, it cant get the tone right, it cant work out what type of show its supposed to be. Is it a serious crime drama? Is it a superhero origin? is it the real world? is it a fantasy world where the impossible happen? It needs to make up its mind at this point i'd put it last on the DC tv shows list, I'd watch Birds Of Prey over Gotham Ouch...worse than Birds Of Prey. I get what you're saying though but I still enjoy the show. I do agree it needs to make up its mind on what kind of show it is because I do believe it can be good, it just needs to stick to one tone. Also, just to make it clear, I think it's the third best out of the current four DC shows, not of all time. Arrow and Flash are miles ahead of it and I just didn't like Constantine. for as silly as Birds of Prey was it at least new what the tone of the show was, it was blatantly a Buffy rip off but it wasn't a bad show. I did enjoy it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2015 12:19:00 GMT -5
Seems plausible as they have stated they are two separate universes. Although the tv side will have like 4 or 5 different universes or realms when Supergirl gets made. DC has a ton of realities on the tv side. Smallville Arrow/The Flash Gotham Supergirl Those are the four they have or will have, plus the movie universe. Lots goin' on. Smallville is a different universe, so is Gotham. It has been stated however that despite being on a different channel, Supergirl will be part of the Flash and Arrow universe.
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Post by Duke Delicious on Jan 3, 2015 16:24:31 GMT -5
I'd say it's the third best behind Arrow and Flash. I think it's a decent show and I do think it has potential be something really good, they just try to cram way too much in to it. If they just focused on Bullock/Gordon and the Falcone/Maroni/Penguin story rather than putting Batman references left, right and center then I think it could be a great show. Gotham really is awful, it cant get the tone right, it cant work out what type of show its supposed to be. Is it a serious crime drama? Is it a superhero origin? is it the real world? is it a fantasy world where the impossible happen? It needs to make up its mind at this point i'd put it last on the DC tv shows list, I'd watch Birds Of Prey over Gotham The Flash just tries to copy the success that Arrow has had with it's tone, type of story, set, etc. Without any of the chemistry that makes Arrow work. Barry, Iris, Vibe and Killer Frost are all beyond annoying characters. I can't stand to watch The Flash.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Jan 3, 2015 17:44:08 GMT -5
Gotham really is awful, it cant get the tone right, it cant work out what type of show its supposed to be. Is it a serious crime drama? Is it a superhero origin? is it the real world? is it a fantasy world where the impossible happen? It needs to make up its mind at this point i'd put it last on the DC tv shows list, I'd watch Birds Of Prey over Gotham The Flash just tries to copy the success that Arrow has had with it's tone, type of story, set, etc. Without any of the chemistry that makes Arrow work. Barry, Iris, Vibe and Killer Frost are all beyond annoying characters. I can't stand to watch The Flash. I'd argue that its very different to Arrow and that it tried to set up the that Barry really isnt like Ollie at all and it tries to bring the more light heart tone to Barry that hes known for in the comics. The kind of flash that would wave to passes by on the street and have a museum built for him once hes an established hero. Its still early days for that show. I hated the first season of Arrow and gave up on it within the first few episodes but everyone told me to stick it out after season 2 was out because it becomes a much better show which it totally did. I think that once Flash establishes the characters and the world more it will be a much better show but right now its really enjoyable. I think all the characters work well together so far but they still building that chemistry Gotham is just like shit thrown at a wall each week trying to see what sticks and nothing is carried through to the end before throwing something else in so that nothing really has the chance to works and after the whole ridiculousness of the balloon man and the hypnotist episodes with the constant sacrificing of story to cram in more batman villains pointless cameos its really hard to get anything out of Gotham
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