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Post by wildojinx on Jan 19, 2015 11:18:06 GMT -5
While thinking about the nu-metal of the late 90s/early 2000s, i wonder what caused it to decrease in popularity. My theory is that the teen audience was growing up and going to college or starting a family, and therefore didnt have as much time or money to devote to the music, while the younger audience were more into metalcore and emo and pop punk at the time, causing the nu-metal scene to lose lots of popularity. What do you think killed the scene (i dont want some "cuz it sucked lol"-type responses, im interested in real analysis rather than opinion).
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 19, 2015 11:20:29 GMT -5
I think you nailed it. The audience grew up. That, and the market was flooded like with hair metal.
Pretty soon, every band had to have a rapper and a DJ. They became indistinguishable.
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Post by MC Blowfish on Jan 19, 2015 11:48:27 GMT -5
The audience grew up and over-saturation of the market. You had all of these bands start to pop up and they all seemed to sound the same. Well for the most part. The audience grew up and expanded into other genres.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 11:49:25 GMT -5
What killed disco? What killed hair metal? What killed grunge music? What killed the Ska boom? What killed Nu-Metal? What killed pop punk boom? What killed screamo/metalcore? What killed dubstep? What will soon kill EDM? Basically anything that explodes in popularity in a short period of time doesn't have a long shelf life in the mainstream. The lucky ones will keep a smaller but dedicated fanbase to keep it alive. Like WWE and South Park are prime examples. Both exploded in popularity in the 90's but are still surviving because they Habs a big core fanbase but it was nowhere big as it was during their peaks
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Post by StuntGranny® on Jan 19, 2015 11:52:16 GMT -5
I think the audience growing up definitely killed it. Speaking personally, when I listen back to some of those bands I enjoyed back then, it just seems so cheesy. For the most part, it seemed like most of the lyrics were pure garbage.
Example: Disturbed. Listening to something like Stupify or Down With the Sickness as an adult makes me cringe. Down With the Sickness especially does that. That portion in the middle where he pitches a fit about his mom is one of the most embarrassing things put on record.
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Post by wakko on Jan 19, 2015 11:55:19 GMT -5
What are we considering Nu-Metal? Are we considering rap/dj groups as Nu-Metal? Either way, yeah the audience grew up, but I still like some groups. KoRn being the one I still follow, if they are considered Nu-Metal.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 19, 2015 11:55:31 GMT -5
People got bored and moved onto the next fad.
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Post by Dean-o on Jan 19, 2015 12:02:12 GMT -5
I think the audience growing up definitely killed it. Speaking personally, when I listen back to some of those bands I enjoyed back then, it just seems so cheesy. For the most part, it seemed like most of the lyrics were pure garbage. Example: Disturbed. Listening to something like Stupify or Down With the Sickness as an adult makes me cringe. Down With the Sickness especially does that. That portion in the middle where he pitches a fit about his mom is one of the most embarrassing things put on record. Disturbed is actually one of the bands that survived after the nu-metal fad ended, and in my opinion, matured as a group. They are on hiatus now, but I think their newer stuff is far better then anything on Down With The Sickness.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 12:09:55 GMT -5
Like others have said, the audience growing up. Also, Dragon Ball Z AMVs.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jan 19, 2015 12:20:59 GMT -5
Disco ain't dead, it's just biding it's time.
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Post by Grennel on Jan 19, 2015 12:27:35 GMT -5
Machine Head releasing a Nu Metal album really opened my eyes to how much of a cash and grab it became.
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Post by 4real on Jan 19, 2015 12:28:42 GMT -5
I think most fans of nu metal got into those bands and then got into the heavier stuff and never went back or just stopped listening to metal altogether. I know I got into all sorts of hard rock music because of nu metal then as I got a bit older found myself getting into all the indie stuff that was coming out like Killers, Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand, Arctic Monkeys etc. That was a good time for that genre I feel.
Nu Metal served it's purpose and for me I probably wouldn't be into any of the music I'm into now without it. Thank you Limp Bizkit!
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jan 19, 2015 12:33:55 GMT -5
Dudebros grew into dudebro country fans. That killed about half the nu metal audience right off the top.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 19, 2015 12:34:02 GMT -5
I can still enjoy Korn and even some Linkin Park stuff. And Disturbed songs were fun to play in Rock Band.
But yeah, I was the perfect age (14-15) for Nu Metal when it exploded in popularity and I got into it. Then I grew up and expanded my horizons. Now I like all sorts of modern and classic rock, punk, certain genres of metal, hip-hop, nerdy music like soundtracks, and a bunch of other stuff.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 19, 2015 12:34:44 GMT -5
That portion in the middle where he pitches a fit about his mom is one of the most embarrassing things put on record. I hadn't listened to that song in almost 10 years, and my goodness did you nail that right on the head. KoRn being the one I still follow, if they are considered Nu-Metal. KoRn are pretty much the nu metal band. They pioneered the genre, and after experimenting with other metal sounds over the last decade seem to be moving back in that direction now that there's something of a revival happening. Bands who got big during nu metal's boom, like Slipknot, Linkin Park, Disturbed, and Papa Roach, have all moved onto other genres with varying degrees of success.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jan 19, 2015 12:43:22 GMT -5
Well, the majority of it being shit didn't help matters.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 12:48:18 GMT -5
The fact nu-metal stinks killed nu-metal. Rap-rock and useless angsty ROWRAR shit killed the medium out of the gate.
From like the mid 2000's the same band kept coming out again and again.
People tire of suburbanite yuppies that are mad.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 19, 2015 12:49:22 GMT -5
The audience growing up is a large part of it. It also did not help that the most visible group of the style was patently ridiculous at its core (Limp Bizkit). Don't get me wrong, I actually liked them. Unlike most of the other mainstays of the genre they did not take themselves seriously, but as a result it is impossible to take them seriously in the long run either (sort of a problem that Blink 182 had as well). Some acts can have long careers being ridiculous, but usually ridiculous was the whole point and not simply a defining feature.
Let me put it another way; Limp Bizkit's reputation as something to not take seriously was so significant that when my 15 yr old son noticed 3 Dollar Bill in my CD rotation, his response was, "Really Dad? Limp Bizkit?" He generally heavily favors my taste in music, so I think I disappointed him by having that CD. This coming from a kid that I am not certain has heard much from the band and was merely judging me by the band's reputation. I should note that I did not get a similar note of disappointment from him for having Wisconsin Death Trip and Issues in that rotation as well.
Another way to look at it is to think about what your image of the fanbase of that style was. Can you envision them? Don't they look like the most pretentious group of douchebags ever? You know who else did? Fans of Disco. Bee Gee records were ceremonially destroyed in anti-disco displays. Does that mean that the audience actually disliked Bee Gees' music? Considering the fact that Barry Gibbs (the primary songwriter for the band) wrote several hits for other people throughout the 80's and then the band had a #1 hit in the 90's suggest not. I imagine that nu-metal suffered from that some as well (though I don't see Fred Durst writing a lot of songs for other artists, though I could be surprised, I guess).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 12:53:47 GMT -5
Its probably because Nu Metal as a whole wasn't very good music.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 19, 2015 12:58:29 GMT -5
All those angry bald white men mellowed out, stopped yelling, and decided they wanted a quiet life, with clothes that actually fit them.
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