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Post by revolver86 on Jan 22, 2015 2:20:03 GMT -5
I totally have to give it up to bands like Deftones and Incubus for always doing their own thing when it would have been so easy to do things the easy, safe way. Both bands didn't feel confined to the "nu-metal" label and were always willing to experiment with their sound and do things they're own. White Pony and Morning View being shining examples of that. That's why I'm still a big fan of both band to this day. Deftones still rock, for sure. Also, this should be Vince Russo's theme song.
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Post by DSR on Jan 22, 2015 2:20:16 GMT -5
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Post by Jam on Jan 22, 2015 2:21:38 GMT -5
And just to bring it all down... The summer after my first year of high school. In the grips of a post 9/11 world where it felt stupid to hate my parents, and suddenly I cared more about cute girls and getting laid, I heard a song. And then everything changed and what we all just talked about suddenly seemed so very silly... Oh yeah. Queens of The Stone Age definitely changed things. Even when I heard Rated R in the summer of 2000, I knew my musical tastes were starting to evolve a little. QOTSA made me want a more pure "rock n roll" sound in my life. Thanks to them I also rediscovered my love for Primus and Helmet, my two favorite bands before I was into Korn and the like.
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Post by revolver86 on Jan 22, 2015 2:24:54 GMT -5
i was always surprised these guys didn't get more traction. That was a great record.
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Post by Jam on Jan 22, 2015 2:28:29 GMT -5
I think Ra just came along at the wrong time. When that album came along in 2003 I remember liking it but I was just so into emerging bands like Lamb of God, Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall, Unearth, and Mastodon that I kind of just forgot about it after the first listen. Actually, now that I think about it, those bands I just listed might have had something to do with the death of the "nu-metal" scene. For me coming out of high school and still being pissed at the world, I was looking for some music that was heavier, edgier, and with a little more meaning. Those bands were exactly what I was looking for at the time when I was 19-20 years old. I couldn't have been the only one. I know I wasn't the only one. Those bands were huge from 03 to 06 or so.
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Post by revolver86 on Jan 22, 2015 2:31:59 GMT -5
Much like QOTSA, I wish I had discovered Mastodon earlier than "Blood Mountain". It took me a few years to totally shake off my nu metal angst, so I secluded myself into a Nine Inch Nails pit of self loathing. Though I don't know if I would've ever gotten laid if I hadn't heard Queens of the Stone Age and thus untightened my grumpy metalhead sphincter.
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Post by DSR on Jan 22, 2015 2:32:28 GMT -5
I remember distinctly what started my movement away from nu metal. It was 2001. The clerk at my local FYE seriously pimped out this one band, trying to get them on the top sales chart for his store. I wondered into the metal section wearing a Slipknot t-shirt, he came up to me and asked me to listen to this:
I was hooked. The stops and starts and time-signature changes blew me away. And it was way more aggressive and way less angsty than a lot of the stuff I had been listening to. The next time I came into the store, he pointed me in the direction of a band Dillinger Escape Plan toured with, Mr. Bungle. Which led me to Mike Patton's work as a whole, which was very eclectic and weird, and opened me up to a bunch of stuff beyond what I had been listening to.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jan 22, 2015 2:34:39 GMT -5
Yay. let me contribute!! I'm still a big Taproot fan. Language
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Post by revolver86 on Jan 22, 2015 2:35:31 GMT -5
I remember distinctly what started my movement away from nu metal. It was 2001. The clerk at my local FYE seriously pimped out this one band, trying to get them on the top sales chart for his store. I wondered into the metal section wearing a Slipknot t-shirt, he came up to me and asked me to listen to this: I was hooked. The stops and starts and time-signature changes blew me away. And it was way more aggressive and way less angsty than a lot of the stuff I had been listening to. The next time I came into the store, he pointed me in the direction of a band Dillinger Escape Plan toured with, Mr. Bungle. Which led me to Mike Patton's work as a whole, which was very eclectic and weird, and opened me up to a bunch of stuff beyond what I had been listening to. Patton's work beyond Faith No More definitely opened my eyes to a lot of things. College was a fun time. Never really listened to Dillinger Escape Plan, I'm digging this a lot and need to seek out more!
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Post by DSR on Jan 22, 2015 2:35:56 GMT -5
Too late, Banjo! I just listened to Dillinger Escape Plan and now I'm completely reliving the change in my musical preferences! NU METAL SUCKS! MATHCORE FOREVER!
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Post by revolver86 on Jan 22, 2015 2:39:07 GMT -5
Ha! The thread has come full circle. First, we hated, then we got nostalgic, then we remembered the stuff that came after that was way better. This was a fun social experiment!
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Post by DSR on Jan 22, 2015 2:39:30 GMT -5
I remember distinctly what started my movement away from nu metal. It was 2001. The clerk at my local FYE seriously pimped out this one band, trying to get them on the top sales chart for his store. I wondered into the metal section wearing a Slipknot t-shirt, he came up to me and asked me to listen to this: I was hooked. The stops and starts and time-signature changes blew me away. And it was way more aggressive and way less angsty than a lot of the stuff I had been listening to. The next time I came into the store, he pointed me in the direction of a band Dillinger Escape Plan toured with, Mr. Bungle. Which led me to Mike Patton's work as a whole, which was very eclectic and weird, and opened me up to a bunch of stuff beyond what I had been listening to. Patton's work beyond Faith No More definitely opened my eyes to a lot of things. College was a fun time. Never really listened to Dillinger Escape Plan, I'm digging this a lot and need to seek out more! The super-fun thing about it is, after Dillinger's "Calculating Infinity" their lead singer left, and their next release was "Irony is a Dead Scene" which featured Mike Patton on vocals!
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Post by Jam on Jan 22, 2015 2:39:54 GMT -5
I remember distinctly what started my movement away from nu metal. It was 2001. The clerk at my local FYE seriously pimped out this one band, trying to get them on the top sales chart for his store. I wondered into the metal section wearing a Slipknot t-shirt, he came up to me and asked me to listen to this: I was hooked. The stops and starts and time-signature changes blew me away. And it was way more aggressive and way less angsty than a lot of the stuff I had been listening to. The next time I came into the store, he pointed me in the direction of a band Dillinger Escape Plan toured with, Mr. Bungle. Which led me to Mike Patton's work as a whole, which was very eclectic and weird, and opened me up to a bunch of stuff beyond what I had been listening to. f*** yes. Dillinger Escape Plan is f***ing amazing. I wish I had gotten into them sooner but man the first time I heard Miss Machine it blew my mind I was hooked. I went back and checked out Calculating Infinity and Irony Is A Dead Scene and kicked my ass for having let this band slip past my radar for so long.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jan 22, 2015 2:41:09 GMT -5
Too late, Banjo! I just listened to Dillinger Escape Plan and now I'm completely reliving the change in my musical preferences! NU METAL SUCKS! MATHCORE FOREVER! Figures, I'm always late for everything. Someone yelled at me for wearing an onion in my belt and dancing the Macarena the other day.
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Post by DSR on Jan 22, 2015 2:43:20 GMT -5
I remember distinctly what started my movement away from nu metal. It was 2001. The clerk at my local FYE seriously pimped out this one band, trying to get them on the top sales chart for his store. I wondered into the metal section wearing a Slipknot t-shirt, he came up to me and asked me to listen to this: I was hooked. The stops and starts and time-signature changes blew me away. And it was way more aggressive and way less angsty than a lot of the stuff I had been listening to. The next time I came into the store, he pointed me in the direction of a band Dillinger Escape Plan toured with, Mr. Bungle. Which led me to Mike Patton's work as a whole, which was very eclectic and weird, and opened me up to a bunch of stuff beyond what I had been listening to. f*** yes. Dillinger Escape Plan is f***ing amazing. I wish I had gotten into them sooner but man the first time I heard Miss Machine it blew my mind I was hooked. I went back and checked out Calculating Infinity and Irony Is A Dead Scene and kicked my ass for having let this band slip past my radar for so long. I mentioned earlier my dislike of Sevendust's near-refusal to experiment, well getting into DEP from Calculating->Irony->Miss Machine, you can see the progression of the band from one release to the next, but there's still some sections where it's like "Holy shit, they tried that and it worked SO WELL!" Admittedly, the first thing I heard from them threw me several curveballs, so expectations kinda go out the window with each new release, but still...
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Post by Jam on Jan 22, 2015 2:47:42 GMT -5
Seriously, bullshiting with you guys about music tonight is the most fun I've had on this forum. You guys rule. I gotta call it a night. Work tomorrow. Damn adult problems. Take it easy, gentlemen.
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Post by Glitch on Jan 22, 2015 3:09:08 GMT -5
I seriously love how this thread started out with a bunch of shit talking and evolved into a total lovefest. It did seem that way...... Well, I got some bad news for you! A music video showing the influence of Mike Patton on nu metal......well, not really bad news per se, but it gives me an excuse to post this. XD
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 3:47:21 GMT -5
Mind if I start a similar thread for Alt/Grunge?
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Post by adamclark52 on Jan 22, 2015 4:19:50 GMT -5
I always felt bad lumping the Deftones in with all these morons. They really weren't all that "nu-metal" even on their first album. I guess they were closer to nu-metal than anything else. But they used standard tuning, had a much greater sense of melody, were nowhere near as gritty, really weren't all that heavy and had more "singing" than anything else. I think they just got lumped in to it because there was nowhere else for them and they got name-dropped a bunch of times by other nu-metal artists. And they collaborated a lot with nu-metal artists. I'm sure their label (which was small even then) just wanted to cash in on the nu-metal wave and figured they'd market them such. But they were more just heavier alternative-rock. They're also way better than any of these bands. I stopped buying KoRn albums years ago but I still buy anything the Deftones put out. Mind if I start a similar thread for Alt/Grunge? Funny you should bring that up, because the Deftones label Maverick also had one of the weakest, worst examples of grunge/didn't need to get lumped in with that but did because the label needed to catch the wave bands of that era in Candlebox.
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Post by DSR on Jan 24, 2015 17:57:45 GMT -5
Hope you guys don't mind I resurrect this to share Korn and Slipknot joining together to cover The Beastie Boys:
(language, obviously)
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