Dshuks
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Post by Dshuks on Jan 22, 2015 20:33:47 GMT -5
In terms of pure in ring ability how good do you think Gail Kim is?
I think that while overall she is pretty good she is not a top tier female talent, and theres been a handful of Knockouts who were better than her.
I don't think she's proven that she can keep up against a top tier talent who isn't a monster type like Kong was.
Her main achievement were the matches with Kong , but bak then it was hard to have a bad match with Kong.
Sh'es pretty good at getting something decent out of lesser talents but her carry jobs often turn into spotfests especially her matches with Taryn. - Overall I'd say Hamada, Kong (2007-2010), Melissa, Sarita, Taylor, and Roxxi were/are all better than her in terms of wrestling ability. Hamada and Sarita by a pretty large margin.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 22, 2015 20:35:26 GMT -5
Yeah, People are real quick to paint Gail as this goddes of female wrestling (overlooking both her horrible first run in WWE and her rather lame second run). She's good. Not THAT great.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 20:53:47 GMT -5
Where are all these great Hamada matches? I feel like people expect her to be good, but I haven't seen the work to back it up.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 22, 2015 20:57:38 GMT -5
The definition of a super worker. She can drag a decent match out of anyone. Lei'd Tapa only had one acceptable match during her entire run (outside of that initial tryout with the former WWE girl) was with Gail.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 22:36:50 GMT -5
She is damn good. The fact that she can drag passable matches out of women that have zero ability shows this.
But yes Hamada is better, or was better.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jan 22, 2015 22:37:31 GMT -5
Yeah, People are real quick to paint Gail as this goddes of female wrestling (overlooking both her horrible first run in WWE and her rather lame second run). She's good. Not THAT great. When has anyone ever referred to Gail as a goddess of wrestling? People mention how good she is, cause she is a good wrestler & worker who can drag a decent match out of others, even shitty ones like Tapa. Are there better female wrestlers? Definitely, but that doesn't diminish her own ability as a consistently good worker.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 22, 2015 23:10:19 GMT -5
Not very. This TNA born idea of her being the best that seems to have become accepted standard is quite sad as TNA had far better workers that were ignored or treated like shit simply because they didn't have the chance to tell WWE to screw off twice. Gail will give you a good match if it is brawl or she is allowed to do something stupid but that is about it.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 23, 2015 0:24:15 GMT -5
Yeah, People are real quick to paint Gail as this goddes of female wrestling (overlooking both her horrible first run in WWE and her rather lame second run). She's good. Not THAT great. When has anyone ever referred to Gail as a goddess of wrestling? People mention how good she is, cause she is a good wrestler & worker who can drag a decent match out of others, even shitty ones like Tapa. Are there better female wrestlers? Definitely, but that doesn't diminish her own ability as a consistently good worker. I can vouch for having seen a bunch of posts listing Gail as the best female worker on the planet on this forum.
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Post by JTG Fan on Jan 23, 2015 1:22:11 GMT -5
I think she's the best in WWE/TNA going today.
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Post by Chip Chipperson on Jan 23, 2015 1:35:52 GMT -5
Not to get off topic but Taryn Terrell is really overrated by the people who watch TNA as well.
The girl had a good match a couple of years ago and will occasionally do a crazy stunt but people act as if she's the second coming or something. Throw Havok in the overrated pool as well.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jan 23, 2015 3:50:40 GMT -5
Not to get off topic but Taryn Terrell is really overrated by the people who watch TNA as well. The girl had a good match a couple of years ago and will occasionally do a crazy stunt but people act as if she's the second coming or something. Throw Havok in the overrated pool as well. It's why people refer to Taryn as Cactus Rack. Although Foley was fantastic at portraying a character and brawling while Taryn has tits, can take a big bump and not much else.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 23, 2015 4:58:21 GMT -5
I think she's pretty good, never been a big fan of her "Eat Defeat" finisher, though a lot of that might be the stupid name, and that's coming from someone who tends to like puns.
I think she is someone who can work pretty well with some people who otherwise aren't very good, sort of like how Natalya was able to have some good matches with Tamina, but I don't think Gail is as good as some people today. I did like her feud with Kong, though.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jan 23, 2015 5:21:36 GMT -5
When has anyone ever referred to Gail as a goddess of wrestling? People mention how good she is, cause she is a good wrestler & worker who can drag a decent match out of others, even shitty ones like Tapa. Are there better female wrestlers? Definitely, but that doesn't diminish her own ability as a consistently good worker. I can vouch for having seen a bunch of posts listing Gail as the best female worker on the planet on this forum. That's not the same as calling her a "goddess" though, is it?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 23, 2015 9:50:55 GMT -5
I think she's pretty good, never been a big fan of her "Eat Defeat" finisher, though a lot of that might be the stupid name, and that's coming from someone who tends to like puns.. I much prefered when Chuck Taylor was doing it under hte name Sole Food
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 23, 2015 11:14:12 GMT -5
I can vouch for having seen a bunch of posts listing Gail as the best female worker on the planet on this forum. That's not the same as calling her a "goddess" though, is it? That's what I was going for.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jan 23, 2015 16:34:50 GMT -5
I think she's pretty good, never been a big fan of her "Eat Defeat" finisher, though a lot of that might be the stupid name, and that's coming from someone who tends to like puns.. I much prefered when Chuck Taylor was doing it under hte name Sole Food I like both of their versions, but I've never really bought them as finishers, more signature type moves that can stun the opponent just enough, ala a jawbreaker, to set them up for a finisher.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 16:53:17 GMT -5
I largely think she's pretty bad. Not seen most of her TNA work but any time in either of her WWE runs she's been in a position to have a good match she's failed to deliver.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 23, 2015 17:12:01 GMT -5
I much prefered when Chuck Taylor was doing it under hte name Sole Food I like both of their versions, but I've never really bought them as finishers, more signature type moves that can srun the opponent just enough, ala a jawbreaker, to set them up for a finisher. Chuck usually used it as a signature move more than a finisher when I saw him doing it. His finisher was the Omega Driver.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 23, 2015 18:10:32 GMT -5
Big fan of her. Not only great in the ring but can play both face and heel in a pinch. Do I think she's the best in the world? No (and I don't see people claiming so, either) but she's a personal favourite of mine. I'd watch her over any WWE diva not named Charlotte.
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