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Post by kidglov3s on Jan 31, 2015 21:00:01 GMT -5
When CM Punk angles became AJ Lee angles, right when the change to 3hr Raw happened.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 31, 2015 21:10:35 GMT -5
The moment was lost. The Summer of Punk was his time. They blew it. A long title reign didn't make up for it.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 31, 2015 21:14:38 GMT -5
That as a heel, he all the sudden the had to cheat to win clean. Not to mention John Cena twisting the narrative to make it sound like that Punk was cheating all this time to keep the title, invalidating the times he defended fairly it as a face.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 22:15:52 GMT -5
That as a heel, he all the sudden the had to cheat to win clean. Not to mention John Cena twisting the narrative to make it sound like that Punk was cheating all this time to keep the title, invalidating the times he defended fairly it as a face. I'm not sure what was worse, that promo or the promo he cut on Del Rio about how after cashing in MITB, ADR would have to defend the title sooner or later.... about 2 minutes after ADR had successfully defended the title against Rey Mysterio.
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Post by bmfjules on Jan 31, 2015 23:43:08 GMT -5
Not to mention John Cena twisting the narrative to make it sound like that Punk was cheating all this time to keep the title, invalidating the times he defended fairly it as a face. I'm not sure what was worse, that promo or the promo he cut on Del Rio about how after cashing in MITB, ADR would have to defend the title sooner or later.... about 2 minutes after ADR had successfully defended the title against Rey Mysterio. I am getting a headache recalling that...
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 31, 2015 23:50:00 GMT -5
IMO the problem here stems back to Punk having his main event fire snuffed out at the hands of Nash and HHH the previous year. He got his token run soon after but he had to be punished for getting over without permission first and while he was still something he honestly never recovered from that as far as what he COULD have been. Holding the belt for over a year is a "token run"? Yikes.
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Post by bmfjules on Jan 31, 2015 23:56:02 GMT -5
IMO the problem here stems back to Punk having his main event fire snuffed out at the hands of Nash and HHH the previous year. He got his token run soon after but he had to be punished for getting over without permission first and while he was still something he honestly never recovered from that as far as what he COULD have been. Holding the belt for over a year is a "token run"? Yikes. There were two belts still at the time. A solid four month run minus the H sabatoge would have been a ten times bigger deal than his year as the second banana champ. It was a very long token run but a token run nonetheless as at no point was he ever the center of WWE storytelling unless he was being babyset by Cena or Rock..
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Post by Evil Homer on Jan 31, 2015 23:58:18 GMT -5
Rock/ Cena 2 should not have taken place at WM 29. Instead Rock should have been a surprise no 30 entrant in the rumble that year, with Rock eliminating Cena to win. But it would have been a controversial win , with Cena claiming he is the true winner. Cena somehow earns his right to be added to the main event, Making it Cena V Punk V Rock , with the Rock walking away with the title. I think a lot of people wanted that to be the main event, including Punk . It would have been a decent end to his run, and he would have had his well deserved spot in the main event of WM
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 1, 2015 0:07:08 GMT -5
What was the biggest problem with CM Punk's 434 Day Reign? That it ended.
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Post by Reflecto on Feb 1, 2015 0:51:17 GMT -5
IMO the problem here stems back to Punk having his main event fire snuffed out at the hands of Nash and HHH the previous year. He got his token run soon after but he had to be punished for getting over without permission first and while he was still something he honestly never recovered from that as far as what he COULD have been. Holding the belt for over a year is a "token run"? Yikes. Not a token run, but it goes to my biggest problem: Raw 1000. The heel turn was one thing, but the big problem was the fact that The Rock had said he got to vault the challengers and got his title shot for the Rumble, that turned Punk's reign into a 434 day TRANSITIONAL reign. You knew from that point on- nothing Punk did as a heel mattered: He was a heel to fight The Rock at the Rumble, and The Rock was GOING to win that match, presumably to fight Cena at Wrestlemania.
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Post by somsta on Feb 1, 2015 1:16:20 GMT -5
What was the biggest problem with CM Punk's 434 Day Reign? That it ended. I was going to write those three exact words.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 1:24:01 GMT -5
That you knew exactly where it was going to end many months in advance, making every title match in between pointless.
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Post by An Old Villain on Feb 1, 2015 1:30:58 GMT -5
He didn't get Hero for The Shield...
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Feb 1, 2015 1:58:54 GMT -5
When CM Punk angles became AJ Lee angles, right when the change to 3hr Raw happened. The weird thing about that is that #AJALL was main eventing Raws, but the John Cena/Big Show/Johnny Ace bullshit was main eventing PPVs. Go figure.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 1, 2015 2:24:25 GMT -5
I get the feeling Punk enjoyed working with AJ.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Feb 1, 2015 3:09:45 GMT -5
If he's the champion and not main-eventing PPVs, then it doesn't matter if the reign is 40 days or 4000 days. The second one was the main issue.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 1, 2015 3:14:33 GMT -5
That it didn't end in a three way dance with Rock and Cena at Mania.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 3:17:50 GMT -5
I get the feeling Punk enjoyed working with AJ. As did Daniel Bryan with Brie Bella in the Daniel Bryan maybe a virgin storyline. It's amazing how shitty storylines lead to marriages so they really arent so shitty afterall!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 3:25:20 GMT -5
He was never THE guy. He was hot enough that WWE was crazy not to take a shot on him.
There's always million reasons not to do something but rarely do they outweigh the big reason why you absolutely should.
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Post by r. on Feb 1, 2015 3:47:39 GMT -5
It wasn't longer.
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