tms
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Post by tms on Feb 2, 2015 0:27:02 GMT -5
Last year, I was sickened to hear ESPN's crusade to annoint Peyton Manning as the greatest QB of his generation, let alone of all time.
If nothing else, this should easily place Brady a solid tier above Manning, and if not place him as the GOAT QB, then easily the best of the last 2 decades.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Feb 2, 2015 0:31:33 GMT -5
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 2, 2015 0:41:42 GMT -5
Last year, I was sickened to hear ESPN's crusade to annoint Peyton Manning as the greatest QB of his generation, let alone of all time. If nothing else, this should easily place Brady a solid tier above Manning, and if not place him as the GOAT QB, then easily the best of the last 2 decades. I think it's a case where, if I wanted to pick a QB who had the better head for the game, I'd pick Manning. If I wanted to pick a QB who is more likely to lead me to post-season success, it's Brady. Manning has a surgeon's understanding of the game, the kind that will probably make a fantastic coach one day, but his performance suffers greatly in clutch situations. It's no surprise that he and Elway ended up together, actually. Brady can perform much more consistently. I don't see Brady as a coach in the future, but if I wanted to win a Super Bowl, he's clearly the better choice.
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 2, 2015 0:53:39 GMT -5
I'd imagine that an interview with Lynch could be potentially more useful than usual.
"Should they have given you the ball?"
"I'm just here so I don't get fined."
"Aren't you upset that they didn't trust you on the one yard line?"
"I'm just here so I don't get fined."
"Do you think you'll find another team during the offseason."
"I'm just here so I don't get fined."
"Do you like sprinkles on ice cream?"
"Yes."
I can feel it.
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Post by bluemeii on Feb 2, 2015 0:54:16 GMT -5
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Just an interesting note I just found.
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Post by RI Richmark on Feb 2, 2015 1:02:46 GMT -5
My God!!! It's just unbelievable! After Kearse's catch I feared it was all over. I even wanted the Pats to let Seattle score so we could get a shot at a field goal. That's why I'm not a coach. Thank God for Malcom Butler! And what about this team. After being left for dead after week 4, after falling behind Baltimore by 14 twice, after dealing with that deflategate nonsense and being down 10 in the 4th Quarter against the league's best defense, they just wouldn't be denied. They were resilient, tough, determined and now Champions. I still remember when the Patriots were the league's laughingstock. I remember the sadness I felt when it was certain they would move to St. Louis. I would have been happy with one Championship. But this? We have been one of the NFL's model franchises for over a decade abd a half. Unbelievable! Thank you Bob Kraft, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Gronk, Julian Edelman, Darrelle Revis, Big Vince and everybody else! "We are all Patriots, and tonight, once again, the Patriots are World Champions!!"
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Post by ibdude on Feb 2, 2015 1:05:27 GMT -5
' Just an interesting note I just found. Damn that's horrible. I hope he recovers.
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Post by ibdude on Feb 2, 2015 1:07:23 GMT -5
Offseason. Draft. Free Agency and Retirement Teases. What lies ahead? First Round Draft Order: 1 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2–14 2 Tennessee Titans 2–14 3 Jacksonville Jaguars 3–13 4 Oakland Raiders 3–13 5 Washington Redskins 4–12 6 New York Jets 4–12 7 Chicago Bears 5–11 8 Atlanta Falcons 6–10 9 New York Giants 6–10 11 Minnesota Vikings 7–9 12 Cleveland Browns 7–9 13 New Orleans Saints 7–9 14 Miami Dolphins 8–8 .512 15 San Francisco 49ers 8–8 16 Houston Texans 9–7 17 San Diego Chargers[tie] 9–7 18 Kansas City Chiefs[tie] 9–7 19 Cleveland Browns (from Buffalo) 9–7 20 Philadelphia Eagles 10–6 21 Cincinnati Bengals 10–5–1 22 Pittsburgh Steelers 11–5 23 Detroit Lions 11–5 24 Arizona Cardinals 11–5 25 Carolina Panthers 7–8–1 26 Baltimore Ravens 10–6 27 Dallas Cowboys 12–4 28 Denver Broncos 12–4 29 Indianapolis Colts 11–5 30 Green Bay Packers 12–4 31 Seattle Seahawks 12–4 32 New England Patriots 12–4 Are the Rams #10? You forgot them.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 2, 2015 1:08:20 GMT -5
So the Seahawks join the 98 Packers as the only teams to lose the super bowl the year after winning it. I remember "back in the day" it always seemed like you would go to one, lose it then come back and win it the next year. They did it all opposite like. Also joining the 84 Washington Redskins
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Post by RI Richmark on Feb 2, 2015 1:10:02 GMT -5
To all the Seattle Fans on the board I just want to congratulate the Seahawks on a great season and a great game. I know you're disappointed right now but hold your heads up high. You were great champions and you be right back in the hunt for the next several seasons.
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Post by RI Richmark on Feb 2, 2015 1:12:13 GMT -5
So the Seahawks join the 98 Packers as the only teams to lose the super bowl the year after winning it. I remember "back in the day" it always seemed like you would go to one, lose it then come back and win it the next year. They did it all opposite like. Also joining the 84 Washington Redskins And the 1979 Dallas Cowboys.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Feb 2, 2015 1:13:26 GMT -5
Offseason. Draft. Free Agency and Retirement Teases. What lies ahead? First Round Draft Order: 1 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2–14 2 Tennessee Titans 2–14 3 Jacksonville Jaguars 3–13 4 Oakland Raiders 3–13 5 Washington Redskins 4–12 6 New York Jets 4–12 7 Chicago Bears 5–11 8 Atlanta Falcons 6–10 9 New York Giants 6–10 10 St. Louis Rams 6–10 11 Minnesota Vikings 7–9 12 Cleveland Browns 7–9 13 New Orleans Saints 7–9 14 Miami Dolphins 8–8 .512 15 San Francisco 49ers 8–8 16 Houston Texans 9–7 17 San Diego Chargers[tie] 9–7 18 Kansas City Chiefs[tie] 9–7 19 Cleveland Browns (from Buffalo) 9–7 20 Philadelphia Eagles 10–6 21 Cincinnati Bengals 10–5–1 22 Pittsburgh Steelers 11–5 23 Detroit Lions 11–5 24 Arizona Cardinals 11–5 25 Carolina Panthers 7–8–1 26 Baltimore Ravens 10–6 27 Dallas Cowboys 12–4 28 Denver Broncos 12–4 29 Indianapolis Colts 11–5 30 Green Bay Packers 12–4 31 Seattle Seahawks 12–4 32 New England Patriots 12–4 Are the Rams #10? You forgot them. Yeah, no clue how I messed that up.
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Renslayer
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Post by Renslayer on Feb 2, 2015 1:51:11 GMT -5
Now, our attention turns to Jameis Winston and all of the drama surrounding him. That should be an experience
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Feb 2, 2015 1:51:49 GMT -5
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 2, 2015 1:53:56 GMT -5
' Just an interesting note I just found. Not surprising, you don't play with your arm hanging down and the other arm clutching it to your side without their being a major problem. Thank you Bob Kraft, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Gronk, Julian Edelman, Darrelle Revis, Big Vince and everybody else! Big Vince? I know Steph was wearing a Patriots hat and rooting for them, but I don't think anyone from the McMahon family played a role in the Pats win.
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Sam Punk
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Post by Sam Punk on Feb 2, 2015 1:56:46 GMT -5
I don't think the play call was bad at all. The receiver was wide open. Nine times out of ten that's a TD. Butler just made a great play. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 2, 2015 2:12:24 GMT -5
From the reaction to this, this might be enough to retroactively change the plot of Ace Ventura: Pet Detective.
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riseofsetian1981
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Feb 2, 2015 2:16:42 GMT -5
My God!!! It's just unbelievable! After Kearse's catch I feared it was all over. I even wanted the Pats to let Seattle score so we could get a shot at a field goal. That's why I'm not a coach. Thank God for Malcom Butler! And what about this team. After being left for dead after week 4, after falling behind Baltimore by 14 twice, after dealing with that deflategate nonsense and being down 10 in the 4th Quarter against the league's best defense, they just wouldn't be denied. They were resilient, tough, determined and now Champions. I still remember when the Patriots were the league's laughingstock. I remember the sadness I felt when it was certain they would move to St. Louis. I would have been happy with one Championship. But this? We have been one of the NFL's model franchises for over a decade abd a half. Unbelievable! Thank you Bob Kraft, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Gronk, Julian Edelman, Darrelle Revis, Big Vince and everybody else! "We are all Patriots, and tonight, once again, the Patriots are World Champions!!"That catch seriously deflated me(no pun intended). I couldn't believe it and was prepared to see more Sherman memes, Lynch memes, and once again those against New England calling the team and their fanbase cheaters. Once Butler made the interception I jumped for joy, my dad was absolutely livid, he wanted Seattle to win as he can't stand New England. He went on a tirade saying the game was fixed and that Russell Wilson, along with the entire Seattle team were in on the fix too. This was a game that went back and forth, hard hitting, intense, exciting, and actually competitive unlike the Super Bowl last year where Seattle just massacred Denver. I wouldn't have been upset if Seattle won to be honest, the fan in me is happy the game was competitive, both teams left it on the field tonight. What's shocking to hear and see is on Facebook I see fans saying New England played with deflated balls in this game, refs were paid off, Brady cheated and was bailed out by the officials, etc. As a fan of the Patriots I am happy with their fourth Super Bowl championship. I wanted to see Brady win one more before he retires.
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the2ndevil
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Post by the2ndevil on Feb 2, 2015 2:24:43 GMT -5
My team's first Super Bowl win in a decade is slightly marred by the fact I wasn't really able to watch any of it because of work (I'm on lunch, right now) and the fact that more than half the shift called out, leaving us amazingly short handed. That sucks, too…
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Post by SUPES on Feb 2, 2015 2:26:19 GMT -5
On the bright side, I’m not up partying in downtown Seattle till 5AM tonight.
A sincere congratulations once again to Boston and their New England Patriots. Without a doubt STILL the most successful NFL franchise of the 21st Century and have to be unquestionably cemented right now as the San Antonio Spurs of the gridiron.
Objectively speaking, this was the nailbiter that I wanted so badly. This was an instant classic and one I’ll be watching for years to come as a fan of the sport, for it seems to be so rare for a game with this much anticipation to live up to its hype. This game had something for everyone and pretty much check-marked every dynamic I had imagined beforehand. Come-from-behind drives, turnovers being forced, fearless playmaking, exploited matchups, and a team that capped it off by capitalizing on a fatal mistake in the end. That’s what great teams do to opponents that f*** up.
At this point, the defining QBs of the 21st Century have easily been Tom Brady & Peyton Manning, with the debate being which one was superior. Tonight, thanks to his own contributions as well as those of his clutch teammates, Brady has to be considered greater by a thin margin. The best comparison I can come up with is that Brady is Shaquille O’Neal, while Manning is Hakeem Olajuwon. Two titans of their position that are proven winners, with one being blessed enough to have done it more often, and both being not just slam-dunk first ballot Hall of Famers, but easily the headlining acts when that part of their careers comes to fruition.
Bill Belichick also cemented his place in the history books in case there was any doubt that he deserves to be considered among the all-time elite. This coach has been extraordinary and a pleasure to watch him work his craft, and tonight, he did his job in preparing his team to pounce on a mistake, achieving that rare fourth Lombardi trophy, their first in a decade, and still maintaining the bragging rights of most recent team to have pulled off a repeat.
As a Seahawks fan, I could not be any prouder of what this team accomplished this season. Dealing with the scrutiny as the defending champions, looking to be among the one-and-done Super Bowl winners of recent years, to emotionally coming together, pulling off a white-hot eight game win streak, and coming so damn close to capping it off with victory #9 on the grandest stage of them all. The very first NFL game I ever truly watched with my undivided attention, start to finish, was Super Bowl XXXIV, a thrilling classic that came down to one yard. I became a fan of the game forever that night and jumped on the mediocre Seahawks at that time, refusing to ever abandon them and vowing to one day come home to support them. And tonight, it came down to one yard too.
The Seahawks would not be an elite team if it wasn’t for Pete Carroll. He has owned up to his obvious mistake that he made tonight, and I’m completely confident that he will learn from it. I’m not going to jump on the bandwagon that shits on him. To do so would be incredibly short-sighted when considering he led the way in bringing this wonderful city its first relevant world championship in 35 years. There is not a coach in the world I would trade him for, not even the first-ballot Hall of Famer that defeated him tonight.
Speaking of mistakes, I’m not exactly what happened when the Patriots went for the victory formation at the end of the game that caused the near-brawl and got Bruce Irvin ejected. I really don’t care who started it. But I’m not gonna shit on this young man for how he acted tonight. Nobody in this world is perfect, and that he’s owned up to it already tells me he’ll learn from his antics that brought shame upon his reputation. I’ve certainly made my fair share of mistakes that have cost me dearly as well, and I’ve never had the pressure of playing a physically, mentally, emotionally taxing game for months on end and then had to see the work of my colleagues and myself come to a screeching end.
Every Seahawks fan should be forever grateful to Richard Sherman for the sacrifices he made today. With the news that his elbow injury is severe enough that Tommy John surgery looks to be on his itinerary, I have never been prouder to have him as a member of the Seahawks. He truly put his ass on the line for his teammates and fans when he likely should’ve have at all, especially when his first child is about to be brought into this world any day now. The man is already a multi-millionaire and doesn’t need the Super Bowl bonus – he played today under these circumstances for his love of the sport, his teammates, his coaches, his superiors, and his fans.
With Sherman’s availability for next season uncertain upon hearing the Tommy John surgery news, that brings up what’s to come for the Seahawks. While the lack of Sherman would be a huge loss, this team has proven during this incredible run that more often than not, it finds a way to overcome adversity and truly live up to the “next man up” motto. So I look forward to next season after having time to decompress from this Super Bowl loss, especially since the Steelers will be coming to Seattle for the first time since Super Bowl XL, an event that will be a decade in the making and certainly the most anticipated game in the minds of Seahawks fans.
This is also a very young team, meaning that even if Sherman is out for a significant amount of the 2015 season, the Seahawks are equipped to keep this excellence going. This isn’t the Denver Broncos, who are left uncertain if their late 30s QB will be returning next season, and even if he does, if he actually has anything left in the tank. This isn’t the San Francisco 49ers getting its competitive legs cut out from underneath them by an egotistical owner. This team will come back next year even hungrier, more united, more determined than ever to right this wrong.
Many Seahawks fans will find it incredibly difficult not to be pissed off about tonight’s loss. But with perspective, it can be compartmentalized. We are a city that had a victory parade just a year ago, therefore we are not a tortured fanbase anymore. This is far from the worst loss that Seattle sports fans have faced, as Super Bowl XL was maddening for a number of reasons, and there was of course the most heartbreaking loss on July 2, 2008.
But we are not only a city that just had a victory parade a short year ago, but we still have two major franchises, including one of the most relevant in the world now, and the other now potentially on the cusp of being in the playoffs for years to come. It could be worse – look at Quebec City, who lost their Nordiques despite supporting them fully, then watched it win the Stanley Cup immediately as the Colorado Avalanche, and got left with no other major franchise to root for to date.
Perhaps the best way to compartmentalize this loss is to remember that most of the all-time successful franchises, the ones that have a plethora of world championships, have lost on the grandest stage of them all. All of Boston’s teams, the Yankees, the 49ers, the Spurs, the Packers, the Red Wings, the Lakers, the Cowboys, the Steelers, all off the top of my head have suffered the most heartbreaking defeat when the mountaintop was within their grasp. The greatest teams win over and over again, but they also learn from their greatest defeats, for it builds their character.
I am proud to be a Seahawks fan and look forward to next season. Until it arrives, I focus on the Road to WrestleMania 31 and am incredibly excited to see if the Mariners can improve upon their surprisingly good 2014 season.
And once again Boston, congratulations on a nailbiting victory that will be remembered for decades to come. You guys earned it.
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