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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 5, 2015 1:21:31 GMT -5
I love/hate how Bryan vs. Sheamus at Wrestlemania part three-ish is becoming something of a running joke every year.
Monday should have made it clear that Bryan and Ziggler are going into the ladder match, but everyone is scared of Sheamus until they actually announce that Bryan is in the ladder match.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 5, 2015 1:38:28 GMT -5
I love/hate how Bryan vs. Sheamus at Wrestlemania part three-ish is becoming something of a running joke every year. Monday should have made it clear that Bryan and Ziggler are going into the ladder match, but everyone is scared of Sheamus until they actually announce that Bryan is in the ladder match. And you know what's strange about that? Two things... One, based on past form (when they've gotten time) it would likely be a damn awesome match, a possible match of the night contender. And two, it doesn't really feel that played out as a feud to me, especially in comparison to other rivals they've had (oh hi Kane and Alberto Del Rio).
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 5, 2015 1:46:14 GMT -5
I love/hate how Bryan vs. Sheamus at Wrestlemania part three-ish is becoming something of a running joke every year. Monday should have made it clear that Bryan and Ziggler are going into the ladder match, but everyone is scared of Sheamus until they actually announce that Bryan is in the ladder match. And you know what's strange about that? Two things... One, based on past form (when they've gotten time) it would likely be a damn awesome match, a possible match of the night contender. And two, it doesn't really feel that played out as a feud to me, especially in comparison to other rivals they've had (oh hi Kane and Alberto Del Rio). Any desire to see Bryan vs. Sheamus booked at a Wrestlemania is just long gone. I could get excited for that match on any of the other 364 days of the year, but I said it was part "three-ish" for a reason, and that's because of the other two matches that occurred, with the word "occurred" being used very loosely.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 21:30:45 GMT -5
Still debating if I want to go because the seats available apparently are behind the titantron
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Mar 5, 2015 21:49:56 GMT -5
According to Smackdown, Ziggler's officially in the ladder match and there's an empty spot with a question mark in it. So there's only room for one more guy in the match.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 5, 2015 22:03:14 GMT -5
According to Smackdown, Ziggler's officially in the ladder match and there's an empty spot with a question mark in it. So there's only room for one more guy in the match. If it is going to be only one more guy in the match, then it looks like it's between Bryan and Stardust for that spot. And both of them have someone on the sidelines that could cost them that spot and set up a WrestleMania match from that.
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Post by CH Punk on Mar 6, 2015 20:34:17 GMT -5
According to Smackdown, Ziggler's officially in the ladder match and there's an empty spot with a question mark in it. So there's only room for one more guy in the match. If it is going to be only one more guy in the match, then it looks like it's between Bryan and Stardust for that spot. And both of them have someone on the sidelines that could cost them that spot and set up a WrestleMania match from that. One of them is in an actual feud and the other has been rumoured for a Mania match with them since the dawn of time. Logically, Goldust would cost Stardust a match against Bryan for the final spot. So expect Sheamus to cost Bryan the match and we get Bryan/Sheamus: Millennia in the Making and Goldust is in the Battle Royal or he's not even on the card.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 7, 2015 6:54:41 GMT -5
None the matches have been booked properly.
The problems with Reigns vs Lesnar are obvious. Vince didn't get his "hoss wins title" moment last year, so this year, he's finally making it happen, regardless of fan reaction. No doubt at Wrestlemania and the RAW after WM, he'll be stunned by the negative crowd reaction Reigns gets.
Sting vs HHH was never a dream match. It makes no sense for Sting to have waited 14 years to take revenge on WWE for putting WCW out of business. The entire storyline seems to have been set up to lionise HHH. Apparently he is the embodiment of WWE, was the key factor in who won the Monday Night War, has already outmanuevered Sting once by undoing his interference at Survivor Series, and was the aggressor in challenging Sting to begin with.
The IC title match represents a major demotion for Daniel Bryan, and impeded progress for Ambrose and Ziggler, and has been built around the contenders childishly stealing the belt from the champion and passing it around among themselves like it was Missy Hyatt.
The battle royale is meaningless. What benefit did Cesaro get from winning it? None. The only positive is that at least everyone gets something to do at WM.
Bray vs Taker is considerably more redundant after Taker's streak ended. As has been already pointed out, Bray looks like a comedian doing the one-sided promos with no response from Taker at all.
The rest of the card will be filler.
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Post by 543Y2J on Mar 7, 2015 7:01:04 GMT -5
None the matches have been booked properly. The problems with Reigns vs Lesnar are obvious. Vince didn't get his "hoss wins title" moment last year, so this year, he's finally making it happen, regardless of fan reaction. No doubt at Wrestlemania and the RAW after WM, he'll be stunned by the negative crowd reaction Reigns gets. Sting vs HHH was never a dream match. It makes no sense for Sting to have waited 14 years to take revenge on WWE for putting WCW out of business. The entire storyline seems to have been set up to lionise HHH. Apparently he is the embodiment of WWE, was the key factor in who won the Monday Night War, has already outmanuevered Sting once by undoing his interference at Survivor Series, and was the aggressor in challenging Sting to begin with. The IC title match represents a major demotion for Daniel Bryan, and impeded progress for Ambrose and Ziggler, and has been built around the contenders childishly stealing the belt from the champion and passing it around among themselves like it was Missy Hyatt. The battle royale is meaningless. What benefit did Cesaro get from winning it? None. The only positive is that at least everyone gets something to do at WM. Bray vs Taker is considerably more redundant after Taker's streak ended. As has been already pointed out, Bray looks like a comedian doing the one-sided promos with no response from Taker at all. The rest of the card will be filler. Opinion on Orton vs Rollins. Should be a brilliant match with time but that build hasn't been right either...
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 7, 2015 11:15:33 GMT -5
I'd have booked it all like this.
1- Daniel Bryan announces he will enter the Rumble. Stephanie says that under no circumstance will Bryan be allowed to win, and headline another Wrestlemania.
2- Cena challenges Lesnar to a final match between them. Lesnar agrees. Rollins says he has no reason to interrupt two of his enemies while they beat the shit out of each other. He will bide his time, because he has the MITB contract.
3- Lana and Rusev announce that no one has been able to stand up to them, and their domination will be complete as soon as they take out a symbol of Americana, John Cena.
4- HHH and Stephanie become concerned that Roman Reigns is a rogue element. They agree that they need to get him into the Authority. They try to tempt him with money, cars, expensive shit, and even Stephanie herself, but he says no. HHH says that no one turns down the Authority. HHH says that even Roman's cousin, the Rock, once understood that playing ball with corporate leaders makes sense. Reigns still says no. HHH says that at the Rumble, Reigns will face Rollins, Noble, Mercury, and the Local Men in a five on one match.
5- At the Rumble, Lesnar beats Cena. After the match, Rusev gives Cena the Accolade. Cena is taken to hospital.
6- Throughout the night, Noble, Mercury, Kane and the Big Show are taken out by Reigns off-screen. This leaves Rollins alone to face Roman. Roman is about to win, when HHH interferes and with Rollins, they beat the shit out of Reigns.
7- In the Rumble, Ambrose and Ziggler draw 1 and 2, and both put up great efforts before they eliminate each other around the #20 mark.
8- Bryan enters the Rumble and wins it from #20 by last eliminating Rusev when Cena's music hits and he returns hurt but pissed off. The next night on RAW, Stephanie says that it might be the best outcome for Bryan to face Lesnar, since she imagines that Lesnar will kill him anyway. She sarcastically wishes him luck.
9- Over the next few months, matches are made for Wrestlemania. Lesnar vs Bryan for the title. Ambrose vs Ziggler for the (vacant) IC title in a show-stealing ladder match. HHH will face Roman Reigns. Rusev will face Cena. Rollins announces that he will simply stand back and wait to cash in on whoever wins the title. Orton comes back, says that Rollins isn't winning shit. Orton vs Rollins at WM is booked.
10- The last thing to address is Sting. He appears on RAW and explains that he's done it all in his career, and he did it without WWE. But there's one more thing for him to do, and that's compete at Wrestlemania. He says there's one man he respects more than any other, and he's the man he wants to face. The Undertaker returns and they stand face to face. Taker explains that the streak is over and he has no excuses or complaints. He simply lost to a better man, but his legacy is built on more than just a streak. Both men agree to a match at Wrestlemania. Icon vs Icon.
To fill out the card, I'd have the Wyatts re-uniting permanently and destroying the New Day, then announcing the Local Men will be joining them as new members (with a hillbilly make-over) Sheamus returning and winning the battle royale, a tag team title match, and AJ and Paige killing the Bellas before setting up an AJ vs Stephanie feud.
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Post by 4real on Mar 7, 2015 14:08:57 GMT -5
So atm we have:
Lesnar v Reigns Wyatt v Taker Rusev v Cena Rollins v Orton Sting v HHH ATGMBR 8 man IC ladder match AJ & Paige v Bellas
Obviously not all of these have been announced but I'm assuming this will be the card unless I'm missing a match. So where does Cesaro & Kidd fit in? Tag title match on pre show like last year?
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Post by Dean-o on Mar 7, 2015 23:54:47 GMT -5
Sadly, most likely. All 4 of those men deserve a spot on the main card though.
I know they still have 3 weeks to fix things, but with what we've seen so far, they have no idea what they are doing. This build to Mania is so bad that I'm not the least bit hyped about it. Normally by now i'm already planning my annual party and building excitement by watching older events.
Reigns vs. Lesnar has more behind the scenes storyline then actual match buildup. Will the fans accept Reigns if he beats Lesnar? Wil Leanar resign, and if he does, will he beat Reigns? What was his walk out last week really about, and what will happen by WrestleMania?
Taker vs Wyatt's build has been pretty boring so far, especially if we don't get at least 1 Taker appearence. If Taker wins, he hauts all momentum Wyatt has had since January and he won't be able to get a win back, but if Wyatt wins, this might as well be Taker's last match cause his draw will be completely gone.
John Cena's actually in a storyline about if he can find a spot on WrestleMania. That's pretty insulting to make your audience think Cena won't be on the card, especially when the likes of R-Truth has a match. It'll be interesting to see what they do with a Cena U.S. title run as much as I want Rusev to win. They wouldn't have Cena lose in non-titles on a weekly basis at least.
The ladder match is for a championship with a holder who is so bad he not only loses every match but can't even keep track of the belt. The prestige of this once great title is so bad I sometimes wish they just get rid of it again.
I'm still in shock over what they did to a red hot Randy Orton return. What is simple booking 101 turned into someone returning as a face, turning heel the next week, just to turn face again sometime in the next 3 weeks. Not to mention we're supposed to accept Orton forgave a group that cost him 4 months of his career. Real forgiving guy he is.
HHH vs. Sting is built on a decent story but I just have no interest in a Sting match anymore. Plus the impact of him costing Team Authority the match at SS was diminished like a month later anyways.
Considering how they had Cesaro win the battle royal laat year and really built some crowd support but yet decided to do nothing with him, does it really matter who wins this year? We'll probably just get more of Big Show & Kane dominance like at the Rumble. If they're smart they'll give us Miz/Mizdow ending.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 8, 2015 0:01:06 GMT -5
Yeah, Cesaro and Kidd v The Usos is the "hot" favourite for YouTube duty this year. Failing that, a six person mixed tag with Cesaro/Kidd/Natalya v Usos/Naomi.
That would be four out of the last five WrestleManias where The Usos have worked that spot on the card, which is INSANE (and three of them were tag team championship matches). On the other hand, it'll get decent time so it would actually probably be a pretty good match.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 8, 2015 0:02:49 GMT -5
Yeah, Cesaro and Kidd v The Usos is the "hot" favourite for YouTube duty this year. Failing that, a six person mixed tag with Cesaro/Kidd/Natalya v Usos/Naomi. That would be four out of the last five WrestleManias where The Usos have worked that spot on the card, which is INSANE (and three of them were tag team championship matches). On the other hand, it'll get decent time so it would actually probably be a pretty good match. Still, kinda sucks for them since working the pre-show match is a big step down in pay. At least, it was before the Network. Not sure how it all works now.
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Post by walterharrow on Mar 8, 2015 12:25:17 GMT -5
I'd have booked it all like this. 1- Daniel Bryan announces he will enter the Rumble. Stephanie says that under no circumstance will Bryan be allowed to win, and headline another Wrestlemania. 2- Cena challenges Lesnar to a final match between them. Lesnar agrees. Rollins says he has no reason to interrupt two of his enemies while they beat the shit out of each other. He will bide his time, because he has the MITB contract. 3- Lana and Rusev announce that no one has been able to stand up to them, and their domination will be complete as soon as they take out a symbol of Americana, John Cena. 4- HHH and Stephanie become concerned that Roman Reigns is a rogue element. They agree that they need to get him into the Authority. They try to tempt him with money, cars, expensive shit, and even Stephanie herself, but he says no. HHH says that no one turns down the Authority. HHH says that even Roman's cousin, the Rock, once understood that playing ball with corporate leaders makes sense. Reigns still says no. HHH says that at the Rumble, Reigns will face Rollins, Noble, Mercury, and the Local Men in a five on one match. 5- At the Rumble, Lesnar beats Cena. After the match, Rusev gives Cena the Accolade. Cena is taken to hospital. 6- Throughout the night, Noble, Mercury, Kane and the Big Show are taken out by Reigns off-screen. This leaves Rollins alone to face Roman. Roman is about to win, when HHH interferes and with Rollins, they beat the shit out of Reigns. 7- In the Rumble, Ambrose and Ziggler draw 1 and 2, and both put up great efforts before they eliminate each other around the #20 mark. 8- Bryan enters the Rumble and wins it from #20 by last eliminating Rusev when Cena's music hits and he returns hurt but pissed off. The next night on RAW, Stephanie says that it might be the best outcome for Bryan to face Lesnar, since she imagines that Lesnar will kill him anyway. She sarcastically wishes him luck. 9- Over the next few months, matches are made for Wrestlemania. Lesnar vs Bryan for the title. Ambrose vs Ziggler for the (vacant) IC title in a show-stealing ladder match. HHH will face Roman Reigns. Rusev will face Cena. Rollins announces that he will simply stand back and wait to cash in on whoever wins the title. Orton comes back, says that Rollins isn't winning shit. Orton vs Rollins at WM is booked. 10- The last thing to address is Sting. He appears on RAW and explains that he's done it all in his career, and he did it without WWE. But there's one more thing for him to do, and that's compete at Wrestlemania. He says there's one man he respects more than any other, and he's the man he wants to face. The Undertaker returns and they stand face to face. Taker explains that the streak is over and he has no excuses or complaints. He simply lost to a better man, but his legacy is built on more than just a streak. Both men agree to a match at Wrestlemania. Icon vs Icon. To fill out the card, I'd have the Wyatts re-uniting permanently and destroying the New Day, then announcing the Local Men will be joining them as new members (with a hillbilly make-over) Sheamus returning and winning the battle royale, a tag team title match, and AJ and Paige killing the Bellas before setting up an AJ vs Stephanie feud. Its amazing that almost everyone who doesnt work for WWE can actually come up with, not only a better card for Wrestlemania, but also betetr build up and storylines. How hard can it be for the creative team (im assuming that there about a good few people who write for WWE) to come up with something this simple? It honestly seems like they get together at a creative meeting, spend a few minutes thinking about stuff for Reigns and Cena and then decide that everyone else should just be thrown together at the last minute. A creative team meeting should last hours and they should leave at the end of the day knowing that they have got a few months worth of storylines (and even back ups incase of injuries etc)
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Post by BRV on Mar 8, 2015 15:14:47 GMT -5
Yeah, Cesaro and Kidd v The Usos is the "hot" favourite for YouTube duty this year. Failing that, a six person mixed tag with Cesaro/Kidd/Natalya v Usos/Naomi. That would be four out of the last five WrestleManias where The Usos have worked that spot on the card, which is INSANE (and three of them were tag team championship matches). On the other hand, it'll get decent time so it would actually probably be a pretty good match. I would take anything, and I mean ANYTHING, other than another f***ing match involving Tyson Kidd, Cesaro, the Usos, Natalya, and Naomi. I've had enough of those six being involved in the same match over the past few weeks to fill a lifetime. There should be restraining orders put in place that keep Tyson Kidd and Cesaro and The Usos miles away from one another.
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Post by ededdneddy on Mar 8, 2015 22:46:33 GMT -5
I'd have booked it all like this. 1- Daniel Bryan announces he will enter the Rumble. Stephanie says that under no circumstance will Bryan be allowed to win, and headline another Wrestlemania. 2- Cena challenges Lesnar to a final match between them. Lesnar agrees. Rollins says he has no reason to interrupt two of his enemies while they beat the shit out of each other. He will bide his time, because he has the MITB contract. 3- Lana and Rusev announce that no one has been able to stand up to them, and their domination will be complete as soon as they take out a symbol of Americana, John Cena. 4- HHH and Stephanie become concerned that Roman Reigns is a rogue element. They agree that they need to get him into the Authority. They try to tempt him with money, cars, expensive shit, and even Stephanie herself, but he says no. HHH says that no one turns down the Authority. HHH says that even Roman's cousin, the Rock, once understood that playing ball with corporate leaders makes sense. Reigns still says no. HHH says that at the Rumble, Reigns will face Rollins, Noble, Mercury, and the Local Men in a five on one match. 5- At the Rumble, Lesnar beats Cena. After the match, Rusev gives Cena the Accolade. Cena is taken to hospital. 6- Throughout the night, Noble, Mercury, Kane and the Big Show are taken out by Reigns off-screen. This leaves Rollins alone to face Roman. Roman is about to win, when HHH interferes and with Rollins, they beat the shit out of Reigns. 7- In the Rumble, Ambrose and Ziggler draw 1 and 2, and both put up great efforts before they eliminate each other around the #20 mark. 8- Bryan enters the Rumble and wins it from #20 by last eliminating Rusev when Cena's music hits and he returns hurt but pissed off. The next night on RAW, Stephanie says that it might be the best outcome for Bryan to face Lesnar, since she imagines that Lesnar will kill him anyway. She sarcastically wishes him luck. 9- Over the next few months, matches are made for Wrestlemania. Lesnar vs Bryan for the title. Ambrose vs Ziggler for the (vacant) IC title in a show-stealing ladder match. HHH will face Roman Reigns. Rusev will face Cena. Rollins announces that he will simply stand back and wait to cash in on whoever wins the title. Orton comes back, says that Rollins isn't winning shit. Orton vs Rollins at WM is booked. 10- The last thing to address is Sting. He appears on RAW and explains that he's done it all in his career, and he did it without WWE. But there's one more thing for him to do, and that's compete at Wrestlemania. He says there's one man he respects more than any other, and he's the man he wants to face. The Undertaker returns and they stand face to face. Taker explains that the streak is over and he has no excuses or complaints. He simply lost to a better man, but his legacy is built on more than just a streak. Both men agree to a match at Wrestlemania. Icon vs Icon. To fill out the card, I'd have the Wyatts re-uniting permanently and destroying the New Day, then announcing the Local Men will be joining them as new members (with a hillbilly make-over) Sheamus returning and winning the battle royale, a tag team title match, and AJ and Paige killing the Bellas before setting up an AJ vs Stephanie feud. Its amazing that almost everyone who doesnt work for WWE can actually come up with, not only a better card for Wrestlemania, but also betetr build up and storylines. How hard can it be for the creative team (im assuming that there about a good few people who write for WWE) to come up with something this simple? It honestly seems like they get together at a creative meeting, spend a few minutes thinking about stuff for Reigns and Cena and then decide that everyone else should just be thrown together at the last minute. A creative team meeting should last hours and they should leave at the end of the day knowing that they have got a few months worth of storylines (and even back ups incase of injuries etc) Creative Team Member: *writing storylines* Duh I make WWE Matches *bangs head against table* I make WWE Matches *bangs head again* I make WWE Matches
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Mar 9, 2015 15:24:43 GMT -5
Paige and AJ Lee v. The Bella Twins is now official (via WWE App).
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 9, 2015 15:25:14 GMT -5
WWE alert just announced Bellas vs. AJ and Paige for Wrestlemania
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Post by BRV on Mar 9, 2015 16:21:15 GMT -5
I'm actually somewhat disappointed that the Divas match at WrestleMania will be a tag team contest. I feel like Nikki Bella has worked hard enough to improve herself in the ring over the better part of the last seven months that she deserved a showcase one-on-one match for the championship.
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