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Post by horsemen4ever on Nov 9, 2020 14:53:13 GMT -5
New Gods On The Block
Well this was a great episode. Donald and Daisy date you know that gets points from me. Though I wonder was there any reference to Donald Duck shorts that featured Donald and Daisy's dates?
To my surprise, Storkules is very supportive right off the bat of Donald and Daisy, I thought Daisy would have to win him over first, It shows how much Storkules wants Donald to be happy.
Scrooge is uncharacteristically very mean, trying to replace the kids. That is not in his character, all these years in the comics and the old show, Scrooge would never do that. They were cheap labor, oppose to paying people, but still. And I love that Della is the voice of reason.
Zeus is officially a villain right? Nothing in this episode shows him in a good light. And I love the part when he calls Helios, and his phone says "scam", I loved it.
My main complaint, is the two plots are separate, no interaction at all between Daisy and the family, they might as well be invisible to each other. Don't they know how close Daisy is to the family in the comics?
Speaking of Daisy, we get a hint of a romantic past, who is the other guys she dated that needed to be saved. Well we saw some of Daisy's ex's in "Donald's Dairy" so I assume they mostly look like Donald.
All and all a nice breathier episode.
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Post by Mandarin Dessert Version 0 on Nov 14, 2020 11:24:32 GMT -5
Hey yo, fly boiz, let's meet them there..."New Gods On The Block!". -Well, this can essentially be divided into a plot I liked and a plot I liked less. -I liked the B Plot with Donald having his second date with Daisy (I guess them meeting at the party was their first date) mostly due to the cute chemistry them both have. Loved how one point of Daisy liking being with Donald is that she can be herself around him (which wasn't possible with someone like Miss Glamour) and how their first kiss came to be. This Daisy characterization fits like a glove in this Ducktales universe and I really wanted her to be the goddess at the end to vanquish the titan and save everyone, but it was not meant to be. Only detriment was Storkules's involvement in this which was really jarring. I think it could have been better if it was just focused on Donald and Daisy trying to get along instead of shoehorning the god into it. -The plot I liked less was the main plot. It could have worked perhaps in the first season when Scrooge was still less than enthralled with the kids but at this point in the show it just came across as jarring. I somehow kept hoping that Scrooge would say that it is a misunderstanding as he only meant to do this particular mission with another team and to continue working with them in the future, but apparently, he really thought of permanently replacing which is...really mean-spirited at this time in the series. This whole point basically took me right out of the rest of the plot which otherwise only had few positive things (Selene was adorable as always and I liked Webby's and Dewey's attempts at being gods [Webby's somehow called IMHO for a Princess Of Friendship to make an appearance ] as well as Hades's depiction in this universe). -Yep, it would have been better focusing on the Donald & Daisy part but as that is not the case, only a C- episode.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Nov 16, 2020 15:43:30 GMT -5
The First Adventure!
Well first of all credit to Christina Vee, as we had a seamless transition to the new young Donald voice, and I tell you I didn't recognize her.
As for the episode itself, so many references and callbacks from the comics and the old show, I can't name them all. Let's just say what happened to Quackmore has happened to someone else, and leave it at that.
This episode does further advance my theory that Bradford is not the final boss of this season, he is going to have a fall out with F.O.W.L, and he will have to team up with Scrooge to stop them.
So Scrooge coming around to embracing family so early in life, it took a while in the comics. I wonder how everything in this episode will come back into play in present day. I can't wait for that.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Nov 16, 2020 20:33:14 GMT -5
So Bradford and Heron? Yeah, they're my new OTP.
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Post by BorneAgain on Nov 20, 2020 10:50:45 GMT -5
Nothing like hearing the 10th Doctor and Missy go full Scottish.
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Post by Mandarin Dessert Version 0 on Nov 20, 2020 11:07:25 GMT -5
Let this be..."The First Adventure!" -Loved the various references to Barksian lore like one of Scrooge's sisters, Hortense, getting namedropped (flashback appearance somewhere down the line, please?), a bottle cap factory in Tra-La-La mentioned ( ) and, of course, going way down the well with Captain Yellowbeak, by name and design a direct reference to the very first Donald Duck comic drawn by Carl Barks "Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold". Those references definitely made watching the episode all the more interesting. Too bad they already did the "cane as pogo stick" gag a few episodes ago already since that might have worked even better here. -Also liked seeing more of Donald and Della as children with Della being the more adventurous, Webby-like part of the two while Donald is certainly interesting in his "troubled youth" demeanor, singing Uncle Scrooge-related songs all the way down the adventure road. I found it neat that in a roundabout way, Donald and Della did the same thing for Uncle Scrooge that Donald and the Nephews managed to do in the last part of Don Rosa's "The Life And Times Of Scrooge McDuck": ignite his adventurous spirit and getting him away from amassing riches by corporate business stuff. -Black Heron and Bradford made for an interesting pair with it appearing that Bradford has deeper reasons for world domination rather than just for TE EVULZ! Their interactions were fun to watch and it was good seeing them getting an origin story like that. -An action-packed episode as well with Scrooge's fight against the skeleton of Captain Yellowbeak being the definite highlight (especially Della just blasting him with a cannon at the end). So is Black Heron now on her third artificial arm (after losing one in her debut episode already)? -The only weird thing here is the timeline, mostly because Black Heron and Bradford already having their "old" design when they engage Uncle Scrooge and his niece and nephew. Wouldn't it have made more sense for them to still have a younger looking design? Furthermore, if he hasn't drunk from the fountain of youth, shouldn't Uncle Scrooge look younger too in the flashback instead of looking like his present day self? Thought that was kinda weird a bit. -Still, an entertaining episode and better than last week. B.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 20, 2020 11:31:54 GMT -5
Is the latest season on Disney plus yet?
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Post by CMWaters on Nov 23, 2020 16:48:22 GMT -5
Is the latest season on Disney plus yet? I think it was said that they don't put it there until the season is over. Meanwhile, love the dynamic of the villains from today's episode.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Nov 24, 2020 14:39:18 GMT -5
The Fight for Castle McDuck
This was a good episode. Webby's obsession with the McDuck family, does make me wonder about her own family background. Trying to fill a hole.
Matilda is a interesting new character. So she has the same immortality as the rest of the family?
Phantom Blob is back, we know he hates magic, so this mission must have been hard for him. I love Pepper though, she is adorable Some have speculated she could be a Vanderquack, I guess we will wait and see.
I wonder though, why Donald and Della are not part of these Castle McDuck trips?
Good episode, can't wait to see what happens next.
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Post by Mandarin Dessert Version 0 on Nov 30, 2020 11:58:47 GMT -5
Well, I certainly remember that fight differently. It featured bearded men, Scrooge almost dying and his ancestors praising him not for his adventures yet to come, but because he would become the cheapest McDuck that ever lived. That's at least how I remember..."The Fight For Castle McDuck!".
-That's certainly an interesting take on Matilda McDuck, being more into coming up with crazy things to sell and make a fortune on her own. It is original though I could not get into it mainly for something which is not the show's fault at all...One of my most favorite Duckverse stories is "A Letter From Home" which I personally think to be the perfect bookend to the whole Barksian/Rosan universe (or at least Uncle Scrooge's arc) and which is also among the few Duck-related comics that made me cry at the end when I first read it, thus having a special place in my heart. While Ducktales has managed to also tuck at my heartstrings with Della-related material mostly, the different characterization in Matilda and it taking place at Castle McDuck inevitably led me to subconsciously comparing the interactions there to "A Letter From Home" and in that regard the Ducktales portrayal...simply cannot win. I know that this is probably really unfair of me but I cannot help but feeling this way.
-Also weird was that Scrooge and his poppa were still so antagonistic towards each other. I admit that I haven't seen the Season 1 episode where they visited Castle McDuck for the first time, but I seem to remember that they left on much better terms than portrayed here. And I guess Webby got over her catatonic state that overwhelmed her the last time they visited Castle McDuck (though I would reckon that her becoming a part of the family has had something to do with it).
-The highlight of the episode was for me was definitely the F.O.W.L. pairing with the Phantom Blot and Pepper. Perhaps the biggest reason for me declaring that is that unlike most of the time this type of trope is used, this time they genuinely felt like they enjoyed each other's company by the end (and not in the usual "more experienced partner begrudgingly accepts naive, exuberant junior partner while still loathing him/her most of the time") and how it felt like they could become a wonderful team in the future. Not to mention that Pepper is really adorable while also displaying competence and I also liked how the reason she wanted to team with the Phantom Blot was because everybody else found him too scary. I wouldn't mind seeing Pepper again in the future.
-Otherwise, I liked the bickering statues (especially the one who only got a bust of him made) and how we got the origin of the "Bless Me Bagpipes" catchphrase. But the whole fighting thing dragged the episode down for me and I just couldn't get into it.
-Overall, a C+ this one gets.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Nov 30, 2020 13:02:51 GMT -5
How Santa Stole Christmas!
So this was a great episode. Not every episode got to be plot to be good. We see how Scrooge's grudge effect the whole family minus the nephews.
In a way, seeing young Scrooge did make me nostalgia for Mickey's Christmas Carol. Heck you could have it had that Scrooge's old girlfriend is Daisy's ancestor. I doubt that was going to happen, would have been interesting.
This episode had a lot of touching moment, I like how Santa is a full on character, which you rarely see. You could say Scrooge was the villain, but really he had good intentions, he wasn't trying to be mean.
Some small notes, I loved that moment Webby had with Violet and Lena, and a good Beagle Boy, nip pick I had was that Glomgold should have been on the good list because he helped save the world last season. And I think we had 8 reindeer which is classic vintage Santa.
So in the end, Scrooge and Santa made up, and for once one of Scrooge's grudges ends for good.
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Post by eJm on Dec 2, 2020 2:02:12 GMT -5
I don’t mean to be coming into this thread with bad news but credible sources seem to say that Ducktales is ending after this season and the crew have already moved to other projects, mostly citing the low ratings on Disney XD for the decision.
Why this hasn’t been announced by Disney yet, that hasn’t been made clear. Possibly because this season’s been highly regarded so sort of want their cake and eat it on that front.
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Post by Mandarin Dessert Version 0 on Dec 2, 2020 2:07:01 GMT -5
Woah, that's a surprise.
I mean shouldn't it be announced earlier for something to be in its last season or am I just too spoiled from how MLP announced its final season?
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 2, 2020 2:09:25 GMT -5
If it is ending, I mean, they can hold their head high, but I hope they get to have an actual ending, regardless.
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Post by eJm on Dec 2, 2020 2:11:03 GMT -5
Woah, that's a surprise. I mean shouldn't it be announced earlier for something to be in its last season or am I just too spoiled from how MLP announced its final season? Like, it’s not something that hasn’t happened in animation before but it is super weird that they’d do that with a show like Ducktales. But they also possibly don’t want to lose goodwill by saying it’s the final season part way through this one? I don’t know, it’s a really weird way I go about it.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 2, 2020 9:42:10 GMT -5
From what I've read, it's being cancelled due to low ratings.
Well no shit. You put it on Disney XD, a channel that nobody really watches. And you flipped it back and forth between Disney XD and the Disney Channel during the seasons.
Even when they do a successful reboot, Disney manages to f*** it up somehow.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Dec 2, 2020 9:46:45 GMT -5
Well that might explain why they're going with a different production for the Darkwing reboot. Sucks either way if true.
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Post by eJm on Dec 2, 2020 9:48:01 GMT -5
From what I've read, it's being cancelled due to low ratings. Well no shit. You put it on Disney XD, a channel that nobody really watches. And you flipped it back and forth between Disney XD and the Disney Channel during the seasons. Even when they do a successful reboot, Disney manages to f*** it up somehow. As someone pointed out, it’s the same thing that happened to Rise of the TMNT and shockingly, it got cancelled because of low ratings. Like, I feel we’re at this point where it’s been proven by Netflix alone that animation works on streaming services and those two companies have services so why not try and make it a D+ exclusive if you’re that concerned about ratings? Build up a decent catalogue of that stuff.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 2, 2020 9:51:23 GMT -5
From what I've read, it's being cancelled due to low ratings. Well no shit. You put it on Disney XD, a channel that nobody really watches. And you flipped it back and forth between Disney XD and the Disney Channel during the seasons. Even when they do a successful reboot, Disney manages to f*** it up somehow. As someone pointed out, it’s the same thing that happened to Rise of the TMNT and shockingly, it got cancelled because of low ratings. Like, I feel we’re at this point where it’s been proven by Netflix alone that animation works on streaming services and those two companies have services so why not try and make it a D+ exclusive if you’re that concerned about ratings? Build up a decent catalogue of that stuff. I think Nash said the same thing on Twitter. Why not make it a Disney+ exclusive and hype it up like the Mandalorian? I mean, it won't get the same hype by the public, but at least like you said, build up the catalogue on there. Make it so people WANT to get Disney+. And then when they do, it's like, "Oh yeah, we also have all these classical favorites of yesteryear so your kids can watch them too. Except Song of the South. Because we don't talk about that."
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Post by eJm on Dec 2, 2020 11:57:37 GMT -5
As someone pointed out, it’s the same thing that happened to Rise of the TMNT and shockingly, it got cancelled because of low ratings. Like, I feel we’re at this point where it’s been proven by Netflix alone that animation works on streaming services and those two companies have services so why not try and make it a D+ exclusive if you’re that concerned about ratings? Build up a decent catalogue of that stuff. I think Nash said the same thing on Twitter. Why not make it a Disney+ exclusive and hype it up like the Mandalorian? I mean, it won't get the same hype by the public, but at least like you said, build up the catalogue on there. Make it so people WANT to get Disney+. And then when they do, it's like, "Oh yeah, we also have all these classical favorites of yesteryear so your kids can watch them too. Except Song of the South. Because we don't talk about that." And if you're concerned about not having it on regular TV, do it internationally. Because HBO Max isn't in Europe yet, for example, Adventure Time: Distant Lands - BMO premiered on regular Cartoon Network not long ago. Like, Disney have Disney+ pretty much everywhere but the options are still there for the time being. It's just weird that HBO Max has pretty much announced a wide enough slate of animation projects and Disney so far's only really done the Olaf special and another set of Mickey Mouse shorts that were shown on TV anyway.
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