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Post by mrbananagrabber on Feb 26, 2015 8:57:10 GMT -5
So Rhyno one week, Kendrick the next, and the commentators mentioned that NXT can be a place for older guys to get back on track.
Should it be? Isn't the whole idea of NXT to create new stars and give guys coming up the chance to hone their craft before making their way to the main roster? There's only an hour a week and Rhyno squashing someone in three minutes doesn't really help anyone.
What's your verdict here?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 26, 2015 8:57:58 GMT -5
Absolutely yes. Bring in the veterans to pop the crowd and show the younger guys some tricks of the trade. It's the perfect place for them if they don't have anything of real value to contribute to the main show.
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Post by CeilingFan on Feb 26, 2015 8:58:25 GMT -5
As long as they help elevate the new talent, then Yay!
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 26, 2015 9:11:02 GMT -5
They don't seem to have many big names visit NXT these days (Rusev vs Ziggler, Bray vs Y2J, Neville vs RVD) and if there's nobody suitable for the Cesaro/Kidd role either this is the next best thing.
From the training point of view their experience can only benefit the younger wrestlers and I guess the older ones too when it comes to doing things the WWE way.
They should also help if there are any more down periods like we had around this time last year when NXT suffers from a lot of injuries and call-ups to the main roster at the same time.
I guess it has the potential to go wrong if an old star doesn't add to the show and/or overstays their welcome but we'll cross that bridge if we come to it.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Feb 26, 2015 9:31:30 GMT -5
If the developmental talents are gaining valuable experience from working with the veterans and not just being used to cannon fodder, go for it.
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Post by Reflecto on Feb 26, 2015 10:01:02 GMT -5
Absolutely- NXT is still a developmental promotion, and working matches with older stars who can succeed would give better training than anything else. It'd also be a great place to move the mid-level part-time WWE superstars who still have something left in the tank, but really don't MEAN anything as a draw anymore (guys like RVD and Chris Jericho), or guys who are basically part-timers even without the billing (guys like Mark Henry or, if he stays in the WWE, Rey Mysterio) rather than being on Raw or Smackdown when they're around.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Feb 26, 2015 10:17:04 GMT -5
Definitely yes. They can give the young wrestler the rub of being in the ring and holding their own against a veteran. the veteran wrestler can also teach them a great deal.
I'd love to see Jericho work NXT as I think he has a great mind and would be a great fit and leader in NXT. Jericho really did his best to make Bryan look like a star in Bryan's debut.
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Feb 26, 2015 10:19:09 GMT -5
While I'm o.k. with mixing youth with veterans in the ring, I'm going with "no". It seems, to me, these vets are the one's trying to get the rub from the awesomeness of NXT. I think they are stealing spots from guys that need them. Is putting Kendrick in the mix going to help the promotion or not? It convolutes it even more. Kendrick can work with the smaller guys, true, and the matches will be fun, but why couldn't that match gone back to Neville or given to someone who needs to improve (one The Mechanics or Jason Jordan or EVEN C.J. Parker).
Newly published studies are the workforce increasingly prove that experience is not as much as a determinant for success as we originally thought. Furthermore, it may be possible that experience is detrimental to growth, and workers might get WORSE over time.
As long as they can justify their existences without cutting guys who don't need cut, then I'll be o.k. with it. Simply hiring them and injecting them into NXT randomly is something I can't get behind.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Feb 26, 2015 13:55:37 GMT -5
As long as they help elevate the new talent, then Yay! NXT is like Nega-WWE, so yes they will
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Post by Andrew is Good on Feb 26, 2015 14:04:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't bring too many people in, but Brian Kendrick is certainly someone you want around there. One issue is there are a lack of strong heels under Kevin Owens, so bringing in a big name heel to feed to an upcoming babyface to challenge Owens would be a good idea. I'm looking on the alumni page and probably search around the indies, but who else could you put in there.
Bully Ray for instance could be a great heel down there. I'm looking at the TNA alumni roster because they used a bunch of former talent. If Kid Kash is still in shape, he could be used. Jerry Lynn would be good if he wasn't retired, but he also doesn't work as a heel. Devon by himself could be something. You can't use them all of course, but just guys with experience who could work with people for a little bit. Cycle guys in and out.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 26, 2015 14:22:29 GMT -5
While I'm o.k. with mixing youth with veterans in the ring, I'm going with "no". It seems, to me, these vets are the one's trying to get the rub from the awesomeness of NXT. I think they are stealing spots from guys that need them. Is putting Kendrick in the mix going to help the promotion or not? It convolutes it even more. Kendrick can work with the smaller guys, true, and the matches will be fun, but why couldn't that match gone back to Neville or given to someone who needs to improve (one The Mechanics or Jason Jordan or EVEN C.J. Parker). Newly published studies are the workforce increasingly prove that experience is not as much as a determinant for success as we originally thought. Furthermore, it may be possible that experience is detrimental to growth, and workers might get WORSE over time. As long as they can justify their existences without cutting guys who don't need cut, then I'll be o.k. with it. Simply hiring them and injecting them into NXT randomly is something I can't get behind. Are these studies measuring 'normal' jobs, though? Because wrestling is a different beast entirely, given it is both intensely physical, and in many ways 'art'. Art and sports are all about experience and learning how to get better. For someone starting out, the best way to learn is to be taught by someone who knows what they're doing. Either by a trainer, or in the ring in an actual match with a veteran. Throwing two guys who need improvement into the ring isn't going to help either of them as much as letting someone who knows how to wrestle well because they know how to wrestle them instead. Lets them pick up on what worked and what they do differently. Even the really solid workers NXT has, who are there to adapt to the style and learning how to be on television, are not as useful as the people who have already been on TV and know what they're doing without needing to be taught. Not to mention, "the product" is by and large about letting developmental guys get out in front of a crowd and to generate revenue that'll help offset the massive cost of the developmental system. The people who need to improve are still learning and being taught to, and when they're ready to go on TV, they do. There's a lot of guys in developmental we have never seen on NXT for that exact reason.
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Post by froggyfrog on Feb 26, 2015 14:25:00 GMT -5
Fine with me. It's not like TBK or Rhyno are gonna be winning the title or anything. Hopefully they he bumped back up the main roster once they're done helping the NXTers
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 14:37:46 GMT -5
While I'm o.k. with mixing youth with veterans in the ring, I'm going with "no". It seems, to me, these vets are the one's trying to get the rub from the awesomeness of NXT. I think they are stealing spots from guys that need them. Is putting Kendrick in the mix going to help the promotion or not? It convolutes it even more. Kendrick can work with the smaller guys, true, and the matches will be fun, but why couldn't that match gone back to Neville or given to someone who needs to improve (one The Mechanics or Jason Jordan or EVEN C.J. Parker). Newly published studies are the workforce increasingly prove that experience is not as much as a determinant for success as we originally thought. Furthermore, it may be possible that experience is detrimental to growth, and workers might get WORSE over time. As long as they can justify their existences without cutting guys who don't need cut, then I'll be o.k. with it. Simply hiring them and injecting them into NXT randomly is something I can't get behind. That's a point. As a fan, I really like that these guys are there, and it seems like they're going to be used well in terms of blending in with the roster instead of being above it. But, there's a trade-off. Sure, Finn Balor gets the experience of working with a Brian Kendrick in a long-ish match with a lot of people watching. But, that's one less talent who actually needs the seasoning on such stage not getting it. And that's very inexact, and in the end the people they want to get screen time will get it, but it is something I thought about in terms of it being the best thing in terms of being a developmental promotion, rather than a fantasy boutique indy promotion. It's almost a quantity (more guys get reps) vs. quality (give a star pupil a big platform against a bigger name), and usually I would go quality, so it's got that going for it. But I can see how it does take a "spot" from someone else with NXT's limited TV time.
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Post by sunnytaker on Feb 26, 2015 14:41:10 GMT -5
i'd say yes. give the young guys a better taste of what they have ahead of them when they get called up and also helps keep things from getting stale if the young guys are always fighting each other you run out o matchups soon enough. a vet coming in lets them mix things up better. as long as said vet isn't winning the titles or always being in title matches it's a good thing in my eyes
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Post by amazingoopah on Feb 26, 2015 14:58:56 GMT -5
If they can still go, hell yeah. Rhyno and Kendrick can still get it done, so why not?
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Post by Mayonnaise on Feb 26, 2015 15:11:05 GMT -5
I am fine with a small amount of guys and girls there to help the younglings out. Kendrick as the small vet, Rhyno as the bigger vet and maybe a Diva or tag team to round it out. They can teach in the ring on tv, help draw for the house shows, help out with life on the road for WWE and their presence puts over NXT as something major.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Feb 26, 2015 16:37:16 GMT -5
as long as it is only a handful of guys per year it can be nothing but beneficial to the younger guys
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Post by JDviant on Feb 26, 2015 16:59:56 GMT -5
Depends. I found Rhyno coming in to squash a guy in 30 seconds stupid. If they're coming in to help the talent develop, then its fine and encouraged, but a squash match doesn't teach anyone anything.*
*except for how they're going to be used on RAW mostly, natch
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 26, 2015 17:10:07 GMT -5
I guess its ok so far.
I'd rather see a big time NXT special with upper card WWE guys coming down for a match. But that'll never happen obviously.
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Post by joeiscool on Feb 26, 2015 17:14:14 GMT -5
If they plan on touring they'll need some names.
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