Dub H
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Post by Dub H on Mar 29, 2017 8:28:39 GMT -5
"If you're nothing w/o this suit then you shouldn't have it." - says the guy who would literally fall over dead without his suit and can't open a can of tuna without a specialized "CAN BUSTER EXTREME SUIT." In his defense he made the whole damn things. And he can make it from scraps. The suit was given to spidey
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Post by chrom on Mar 29, 2017 10:14:41 GMT -5
That's what I see it as well. Tony's the cynical mentor who's lost a lot and trying to convince Peter not be be like him while Parker's the idealistic new hero. Yeah, but the best thing about Spider-Man has always been his independence. He was an everyman hero figuring stuff out as he went along. This comes off like Spider-Man having a babysitter. It honestly turns me off of the whole thing. He is only 17 years old and just started being a hero, him being involved in the Airport was his first real battle.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 10:18:59 GMT -5
"If you're nothing w/o this suit then you shouldn't have it." - says the guy who would literally fall over dead without his suit and can't open a can of tuna without a specialized "CAN BUSTER EXTREME SUIT." In his defense he made the whole damn things. And he can make it from scraps. The suit was given to spidey I get that. At the same time, Stark didn't exactly pull himself up by his own bootstraps. He was basically given the keys to the kingdom in terms of creating battle suits. Not to say he's unintelligent, but he was handed quite a bit of help/resources that he didn't have to necessarily earn.
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Post by Shai on Mar 30, 2017 14:04:35 GMT -5
I honestly like what they're doing here. Peter gets way in over his head probably in part because of this high-tech gear. Tony takes it away so he has to go back to basics. It's different but I think with ASM so recent and fresh in people's minds they needed to do something different.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 17:44:57 GMT -5
"If you're nothing w/o this suit then you shouldn't have it." - says the guy who would literally fall over dead without his suit and can't open a can of tuna without a specialized "CAN BUSTER EXTREME SUIT." He got by fine in Iron Man 3.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 17:51:37 GMT -5
"If you're nothing w/o this suit then you shouldn't have it." - says the guy who would literally fall over dead without his suit and can't open a can of tuna without a specialized "CAN BUSTER EXTREME SUIT." He got by fine in Iron Man 3. Ordering javris to do everything isn't exactly the pinnacle of self-sufficiency.
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Post by Fade on Mar 30, 2017 18:06:27 GMT -5
He got by fine in Iron Man 3. Ordering javris to do everything isn't exactly the pinnacle of self-sufficiency. Jarvis had nothing to do with him infiltrating the house of the "mandarin" and the fight with bald extremis henchmen and the female one in the bar.
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Post by Wailord Man on Mar 30, 2017 18:07:26 GMT -5
He got by fine in Iron Man 3. Ordering javris to do everything isn't exactly the pinnacle of self-sufficiency. You mean that advanced U.I. HE made by himself?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 18:23:59 GMT -5
Ordering javris to do everything isn't exactly the pinnacle of self-sufficiency. You mean that advanced U.I. HE made by himself? OK. He made it. He was also born into the means and ways of doing so. He's intelligent. VERY much so, but he's far from having pulled himself up by his own bootstraps.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 18:25:25 GMT -5
Ordering javris to do everything isn't exactly the pinnacle of self-sufficiency. Jarvis had nothing to do with him infiltrating the house of the "mandarin" and the fight with bald extremis henchmen and the female one in the bar. Credit where credit's due. He's a decent B&E guy and can handle two low-level henchman. Pop the confetti and tune up the marching band.
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Post by Fade on Mar 30, 2017 18:28:54 GMT -5
Jarvis had nothing to do with him infiltrating the house of the "mandarin" and the fight with bald extremis henchmen and the female one in the bar. Credit where credit's due. He's a decent B&E guy and can handle two low-level henchman. Pop the confetti and tune up the marching band. They're like...superhuman and he had only only himself to defeat all them lol I see you have a raging hate-on for Tony but I think it's admirable he wants to make sure Peter is the best person/hero he can be like any good mentor/teacher. He wants Peter to be better than him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 18:33:59 GMT -5
Credit where credit's due. He's a decent B&E guy and can handle two low-level henchman. Pop the confetti and tune up the marching band. They're like...superhuman and he had only only himself to defeat all them lol I see you have a raging hate-on for Tony but I think it's admirable he wants to make sure Peter is the best person/hero he can be like any good mentor/teacher. He wants Peter to be better than him. Wait, so Tony wants Parker to be better than him by taking away his suit, but you're arguing that Tony is MORE than his suit? I mean, if he would have phrased it like, "I wish I more than just this technology I built. I WISH I had half the potential you do..." that kind of speech I get. And hey, who knows? Maybe in context of the movie it'll come off that way. Really I was just making a joke about Stark telling someone else to be "more than their suit" is about as sound as Bats telling someone that "gadgets are overrated."
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Post by Fade on Mar 30, 2017 18:36:27 GMT -5
They're like...superhuman and he had only only himself to defeat all them lol I see you have a raging hate-on for Tony but I think it's admirable he wants to make sure Peter is the best person/hero he can be like any good mentor/teacher. He wants Peter to be better than him. Wait, so Tony wants Parker to be better than him by taking away his suit, but you're arguing that Tony is MORE than his suit? I mean, if he would have phrased it like, "I wish I more than just this technology I built. I WISH I had half the potential you do..." that kind of speech I get. And hey, who knows? Maybe in context of the movie it'll come off that way. Really I was just making a joke about Stark telling someone else to be "more than their suit" is about as sound as Bats telling someone that "gadgets are overrated." Peter has superpowers. Tony doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 18:37:43 GMT -5
Wait, so Tony wants Parker to be better than him by taking away his suit, but you're arguing that Tony is MORE than his suit? I mean, if he would have phrased it like, "I wish I more than just this technology I built. I WISH I had half the potential you do..." that kind of speech I get. And hey, who knows? Maybe in context of the movie it'll come off that way. Really I was just making a joke about Stark telling someone else to be "more than their suit" is about as sound as Bats telling someone that "gadgets are overrated." Peter has superpowers. Tony doesn't. I am aware. That's the point I was making.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 18:46:26 GMT -5
Pretty underwhelmed. Looks like Just Another Marvel Movie™ at this point, which is fine if you're mainly interested in the cross-over potential. But just as a film it's not doing anything new or interesting/different or even that cool with the genre. Just kinda...more of the same really. It's a good thing you aren't this guy, then. Personally speaking, I'm really looking forward to this film. I've always been a fan of Spidey, and I loved what they did with him Civil War, so I'm interested to see what this installment has in store. If I were that guy I'd have lost it by now for sure! Haha
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Post by andrew8798 on May 19, 2017 19:34:24 GMT -5
For the score they plan on using the 60's theme
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Post by ronin705 on May 19, 2017 20:22:59 GMT -5
The amount of semantics being used right now smfh.. I look forward to Uncle Tony hitting on Aunt To-Mei, and bringing Pete back to square one. Everything looks good about this flick, and im no longer watching previews cuz i want a super fresh viewing experience.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 20, 2017 2:04:31 GMT -5
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Post by mattperiolat on May 20, 2017 13:18:36 GMT -5
This is going to be bigger than GOTG, isn't it? The only question is how many box office records are getting annhilated by our neighborhood web crawler?
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Post by BlackoutCreature on May 20, 2017 20:46:16 GMT -5
Nobody ever wants to use the Spider-Friends theme anymore
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