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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jul 28, 2017 23:22:05 GMT -5
It was a'ight Not as good as raimi's 1 & 2 or Amazing but better than 3 & Amazing 2 Saw it last night, and this is pretty much my review. I liked Keaton and Tomei. Holland is good, but my god...the rest of the kids were annoying as hell. Anybody else just tired of teenager Spider-Man? Growing up, all my Spidey books were adult and/or married to MJ Spidey. Let the guy grow up. Hell, even a little bit. I mean they could if Sony wouldn't keep mucking things up.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Jul 29, 2017 2:32:28 GMT -5
True. At least in Raimi's movies everybody aged and MJ almost married Jameson's son. He was a young adult in the cartoon as well, right?
I know they can't do anything about it now since this new Spider-Man is only fifteen, but my god...we get it...being a teenager is a lot like being a secret superhero. It's corny now.
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Post by Jiren on Jul 29, 2017 6:25:58 GMT -5
It was a'ight Not as good as raimi's 1 & 2 or Amazing but better than 3 & Amazing 2 Saw it last night, and this is pretty much my review. I liked Keaton and Tomei. Holland is good, but my god...the rest of the kids were annoying as hell. Anybody else just tired of teenager Spider-Man? Growing up, all my Spidey books were adult and/or married to MJ Spidey. Let the guy grow up. Hell, even a little bit. Agree the teenage cast bugged the hell out of me (Holland aside).
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 30, 2017 0:42:53 GMT -5
It was a'ight Not as good as raimi's 1 & 2 or Amazing but better than 3 & Amazing 2 Saw it last night, and this is pretty much my review. I liked Keaton and Tomei. Holland is good, but my god...the rest of the kids were annoying as hell. Anybody else just tired of teenager Spider-Man? Growing up, all my Spidey books were adult and/or married to MJ Spidey. Let the guy grow up. Hell, even a little bit. It's strange especially because Parker was only a high school student for 3 years in the books. Not to mention a lot of the supporting cast that most people today would probably be familiar with didn't show up until the 80's after Parker had already graduated from College. (which he did in 1978) (well that's not entirely true a bunch did show up in College too... but still not his High School years) Hell for the majority of his existence Peter HASN'T been a student... yet they love making him one in other adaptations for some reason. I'm not against it... but most people I know don't equate Spider-man with student even though Marvel seem determined to try and push it.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 30, 2017 3:03:46 GMT -5
I liked it more than TASM, but I agree the first two Raimi's first two Spider-Man movies were better.
Third best out of the lot ain't bad though.
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Post by mizerable on Jul 30, 2017 12:50:17 GMT -5
I saw it last night, and while it did have it's flaws, I thought it was pretty good. It's my favorite Spiderman movie, given that I hate every other Spiderman movie with the exception of Amazing Spiderman 1, which admittedly can be forgettable. The Raimi movies were without character, and the Garfield movies were a little too extravagant with the action and I never truly felt impending danger for the lead. I guess some of the things I like in the new one were, the action was grounded. You didn't see a shit ton of fighting in the city and you had a bad guy who had a reason to be a bad guy instead of losing his mind like every other villain in every other Spiderman movie so far. Yeah, there was a lot of the high school stuff going on, but it serves a purpose to the story and they never spend too much time on it. Now on to spoilers; {Spoiler}
The Iron Man stuff was a little much. I liked the new suit look coming from him since I always thought Spiderman making such a sleek suit was silly. Thank God they didn't have Iron Man showing up at the end to bail him out. Spiderman needs to step out of the shadow of anyone else and while they made the story about him trying to prove himself to Stark, I think they could've reined that in some since it makes Peter look weak.
Speaking of the suit, yeah they better do away with that Jarvis bullshit. I know that they probably are going to use that so Peter has someone to talk to while he is pondering while patrolling, but I would rather hear him narrate to himself like he did in the show. Simply put, the suit looks great but it doesn't need to f***ing talk.
I had no idea that Shocker was going to be in the movie, so I was SHOCKED when it happened. I was always a huge fan of the character, so I hope he comes back with the suit. Sinister Six anyone?
Speaking of Sinister Six, I'm happy it looks like they're moving forward with Scorpion. I thought I saw a "tentacle" in the truck as well, but I could be wrong. If they got Kraven or Mysterio, I would be quite happy, but goddammit, they cannot leave out Rhino. He is an essential member in my book. Hobgoblin would be cool too.
I hated Flash Thompson. This actor in absolutely no way gave us what I would expect out of the character. You want to explore bullying with a different style? Then make up a new character. This was honestly the biggest gripe for me. I hated any time he showed up. That is not Flash Thompson.
I also hated "MJ". I don't care if she isn't Mary Jane, that association isn't needed. She is a bleak character who I just want to pop in the mouth for being just an annoyance.
The other characters were fine. Stupid comedy at times, but it wasn't a huge deal. I saw the Vulture/Liz connection a mile away.
The subsequent car ride scene is the best scene in the movie. There's a lot of vulnerability and tension there that conveys how each character feels. The follow up scene was slightly underwhelming, but it at least showed Peter growing up.
The movie gets a solid 8 out of 10 for me. I can't recommend it to everyone, but it's helped reemerge the Spiderman fan in me, especially since I pretty much gave up after the 2002 movie.
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Post by wildojinx on Jul 30, 2017 13:25:06 GMT -5
I think Marvel keeps reverting to the teen Peter is because they want a character the teens can "relate to" (all of the other Marvel heroes are in their late 30s at least). Of course Marvel has plenty of teenage heroes now, but they want to use something proven before taking a chance on someone like Kamala Khan.
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Post by chrom on Jul 30, 2017 13:41:36 GMT -5
Over 600 million at the box office
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 30, 2017 17:41:11 GMT -5
Over 600 million at the box office I'd assumed it would have done more than that by now. For all the talk of Marvel coming in and saving Sony's ass, it's still $75 million behind ASM2's box office total, and $256 million behind Spider-Man 3. I don't know how much longer it's gonna be in theatres, but I imagine its prime earning period has passed.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 30, 2017 18:03:35 GMT -5
Over 600 million at the box office I'd assumed it would have done more than that by now. For all the talk of Marvel coming in and saving Sony's ass, it's still $75 million behind ASM2's box office total, and $256 million behind Spider-Man 3. I don't know how much longer it's gonna be in theatres, but I imagine its prime earning period has passed. It's made more domestically than the Amazing series. Which is where movie studios get the most take. It's also still in the top 5 box office a month after release. It also had a much smaller budget than Amazing Spider-man 2.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Jul 30, 2017 23:19:02 GMT -5
I'd assumed it would have done more than that by now. For all the talk of Marvel coming in and saving Sony's ass, it's still $75 million behind ASM2's box office total, and $256 million behind Spider-Man 3. I don't know how much longer it's gonna be in theatres, but I imagine its prime earning period has passed. It's made more domestically than the Amazing series. Which is where movie studios get the most take. It's also still in the top 5 box office a month after release. It also had a much smaller budget than Amazing Spider-man 2. I do wonder what a third Garfield movie would have been like. I doubt Bill Murray would do it. BA DUM TSSSHHH! But seriously, they were setting up the Sinister Six there, right? And I still can't believe that Sony and Garfield split because Garfield showed up to that film festival with a beard or something. Talk about a stupid reason to kill a franchise.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 30, 2017 23:21:57 GMT -5
It's made more domestically than the Amazing series. Which is where movie studios get the most take. It's also still in the top 5 box office a month after release. It also had a much smaller budget than Amazing Spider-man 2. I do wonder what a third Garfield movie would have been like. I doubt Bill Murray would do it. BA DUM TSSSHHH! But seriously, they were setting up the Sinister Six there, right? And I still can't believe that Sony and Garfield split because Garfield showed up to that film festival with a beard or something. Talk about a stupid reason to kill a franchise. They setup like 20 things in Amazing Spider-man 2... so much so they basically forgot to actually film a movie. they also assumed that it would make a Billion Dollars for some reason.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 30, 2017 23:49:59 GMT -5
I'd assumed it would have done more than that by now. For all the talk of Marvel coming in and saving Sony's ass, it's still $75 million behind ASM2's box office total, and $256 million behind Spider-Man 3. I don't know how much longer it's gonna be in theatres, but I imagine its prime earning period has passed. It's made more domestically than the Amazing series. Which is where movie studios get the most take. It's also still in the top 5 box office a month after release. It also had a much smaller budget than Amazing Spider-man 2. True, but for all the hype and a promotion campaign heavily featuring the MCU's biggest star, an overall lower worldwide take than all but one of the previous five movies (since I doubt it's got the legs to take in another $125 million) is still not a great sign no matter how the profits are tallied.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jul 31, 2017 1:37:03 GMT -5
They setup like 20 things in Amazing Spider-man 2... so much so they basically forgot to actually film a movie. I didn't get this vibe at all when I watched Amazing 2 recently. I avoided the film when it hit theaters because I thought it would be like that, since there were reports of 3 sequels and 4 spinoffs or whatever the f...but I found the film itself to be pretty solid when I finally got around to watching it.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jul 31, 2017 11:02:21 GMT -5
It's made more domestically than the Amazing series. Which is where movie studios get the most take. It's also still in the top 5 box office a month after release. It also had a much smaller budget than Amazing Spider-man 2. True, but for all the hype and a promotion campaign heavily featuring the MCU's biggest star, an overall lower worldwide take than all but one of the previous five movies (since I doubt it's got the legs to take in another $125 million) is still not a great sign no matter how the profits are tallied. Tbh, I think a lot of it also has to do with the amount of blockbusters this Summer and the fact that a lot of people have Spidey burn out from the ASM movies. I think the sequel will draw better. I also have heard tho, older fans hate this movie, which I don't get, but maybe I just like the idea of a younger Peter Parker in this world. Meh.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Jul 31, 2017 11:28:11 GMT -5
This has Man of Steel syndrome to me. In that I've seen a divided fanbase and also people were burnt out on rebooted characters. My mom loves Spider-Man but didn't see this one because she was tired of a different reboot every couple of years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 13:00:49 GMT -5
This has Man of Steel syndrome to me. In that I've seen a divided fanbase and also people were burnt out on rebooted characters. My mom loves Spider-Man but didn't see this one because she was tired of a different reboot every couple of years. Yeah same thing with my brother. I bet the main reason why they had to include Iron Man especially all over the marketing material was to tell the very casual movie going audience that Spiderman is now part of the MCU. Also in case if anyone didn't see Civil War. I'm honestly a little shocked over the movie's opening weekend because there was a real chance of Spiderman burnout. Since 2007 we had 3 Spiderman's, 3 different universes, 4 Spiderman films + 1 appearance in Civil War, etc. Plus the ASM were pretty god damn similar to Raimi films just with The Ultimate Universe look. Especially with the origin story, starting out in high school, and all Spiderman villains is someone connected to Peter Parker's personal life. I get why they had go with a different route of a highschool film with a girl that isn't Mary Jane or Gwen Stacey with a Hot Aunt May and a villain who doesn't succumb to insanity from a experiment gone wrong and no Uncle Ben dying and being more grounded.
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Post by Fade on Jul 31, 2017 14:17:30 GMT -5
This has Man of Steel syndrome to me. In that I've seen a divided fanbase and also people were burnt out on rebooted characters. My mom loves Spider-Man but didn't see this one because she was tired of a different reboot every couple of years. It honestly reminds me a lot of Jurassic World. Entertaining but lacking real depth, initially loved and then over time, people slowly realize it's kind of a shallow film.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 31, 2017 14:34:50 GMT -5
This has Man of Steel syndrome to me. In that I've seen a divided fanbase and also people were burnt out on rebooted characters. My mom loves Spider-Man but didn't see this one because she was tired of a different reboot every couple of years. It honestly reminds me a lot of Jurassic World. Entertaining but lacking real depth, initially loved and then over time, people slowly realize it's kind of a shallow film. It certainly wasn't a deep movie, but there was more emotion in the scenes where he picks her up for the dance/car ride and where he is stuck under the building than in anything in JW I'd say.
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Post by Fade on Jul 31, 2017 15:33:05 GMT -5
It honestly reminds me a lot of Jurassic World. Entertaining but lacking real depth, initially loved and then over time, people slowly realize it's kind of a shallow film. It certainly wasn't a deep movie, but there was more emotion in the scenes where he picks her up for the dance/car ride and where he is stuck under the building than in anything in JW I'd say. Sure. Yeah. I'd agree. But it's still not saying a lot.
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