rocket
Don Corleone
Posts: 1,801
|
Post by rocket on Mar 4, 2015 19:51:59 GMT -5
So what's their source, Wrestlemania XX?
Unlike Lesnar/Goldberg this is the main event and the people there will know that someone's getting the title whether they like it or not.
|
|
|
Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 4, 2015 19:54:02 GMT -5
They'd be better off rubbing their hands together like Birdman so all their Roman Reigns-related dreams would come true.
OK, good. You managed to get a babyface to only be booed sometimes instead of most of the time. Really great job, guys! Time to call it a day.
God bless Roman but WWE f***ed up huge. Dude isn't getting anywhere close to the reaction he should be considering we're less than a month out from Mania. It just feels like the fanbase is more "meh" to the guy than anything else.
It's f***ing impossible to get over from WWE's style of booking. Any momentum you build up will be snuffed out in a few months. You have to get yourself over in spite of the booking and Roman doesn't have the tools to do so at the moment.
|
|
|
Post by bluemeii on Mar 4, 2015 19:57:29 GMT -5
At this point Roman will get cheered by people who feel sorry for him because the haters are hating too hard. Because not every wrestling fan with internet access is a smark who discusses the ins and outs of the business. Well they are the minority I believe. If someone has a hobby or an interest in something they will look it up online and look to discuss it with fellow people of the same interest. It's funny how shows like Lost never said "God damn these internet fans with their silly theories and their moaning about us dedicating an episode to Jack's tattoos. What do they know?" yet the WWE still do. Not even close. Average age of a RAW viewer is 41.4 years old. That means for every 21 year old that's on the net talking wrestling that means there's a 61 year old doing the same? I'm going to take a good guess and say no on that one. Sorry to say but the fans that actually do are still just a small segment of the audience. Way to many casual fans just watching RAW and that's it nowadays to even claim otherwise. You talk about wrestling as a hobby or interest. Most people still just view it as a TV show they watch every week.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 20:14:32 GMT -5
You know who knows the feelings among some before reading the Observer?
Anyone that would bother reading the Observer.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 20:16:05 GMT -5
There is a better chance of "please don't go" chants than there is of the crowd turning on Lesnar for Reigns.
This isn't 2004. The WWE does not have the goodwill it used to among fans.
|
|
r.
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Bye
Posts: 16,465
|
Post by r. on Mar 4, 2015 20:47:33 GMT -5
No? Are you worried about people buying the ppv? Nah I'm sure that's of no concern either.
|
|
|
Post by CM Parish on Mar 4, 2015 20:52:52 GMT -5
No? Are you worried about people buying the ppv? Nah I'm sure that's of no concern either. People are going to buy WrestleMania regardless. It's bigger than any one match now, it's a ritual for wrestling fans. (In before a couple superfans come in and say they won't be buying it - it'll still be watched by over 1,000,000 people whether you buy it/the network or not.)
|
|
paywindah
Dennis Stamp
He's goin' to da paywindah here on da muddaship TBS.
Posts: 3,678
|
Post by paywindah on Mar 4, 2015 20:58:42 GMT -5
Mania won't be a problem. The next night (with 3x as many people watching) will be the bigger problem.
|
|
|
Post by HMARK Center on Mar 4, 2015 20:59:12 GMT -5
There is a better chance of "please don't go" chants than there is of the crowd turning on Lesnar for Reigns. This isn't 2004. The WWE does not have the goodwill it used to among fans. I genuinely hope that's the case. As much of a spectacle as it was to hear MSG boo Goldberg and Lesnar so hard, that crowd was still awful. Really, "You Sold Out" chants to guys who were leaving to go and likely make less money?! Plus, please, as if they owe the company that much loyalty. "You Sold Out" is a chant that should be saved for storylines involving guys like Seth Rollins turning heel; guys leaving the industry to pursue their goals or just avoid being beaten to death should get a simple "thanks for being here for awhile, best of luck".
|
|
r.
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Bye
Posts: 16,465
|
Post by r. on Mar 4, 2015 21:00:06 GMT -5
No? Are you worried about people buying the ppv? Nah I'm sure that's of no concern either. People are going to buy WrestleMania regardless. It's bigger than any one match now, it's a ritual for wrestling fans. (In before a couple superfans come in and say they won't be buying it - it'll still be watched by over 1,000,000 people whether you buy it/the network or not.) Oh for sure. It was more of their attitude that things will work out for them smoothly. Hell I'm watching the ppv and I havn't seen raw in almost 6 months.
|
|
|
Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 4, 2015 21:00:58 GMT -5
No? Are you worried about people buying the ppv? Nah I'm sure that's of no concern either. People are going to buy WrestleMania regardless. It's bigger than any one match now, it's a ritual for wrestling fans. (In before a couple superfans come in and say they won't be buying it - it'll still be watched by over 1,000,000 people whether you buy it/the network or not.) I hate the whole "they're gonna buy WrestleMania anyways" argument. The problem is not them buying WrestleMania, the problem is them buying the show after WrestleMania.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 22:22:36 GMT -5
There is a better chance of "please don't go" chants than there is of the crowd turning on Lesnar for Reigns. This isn't 2004. The WWE does not have the goodwill it used to among fans. I genuinely hope that's the case. As much of a spectacle as it was to hear MSG boo Goldberg and Lesnar so hard, that crowd was still awful. Really, "You Sold Out" chants to guys who were leaving to go and likely make less money?! Plus, please, as if they owe the company that much loyalty. "You Sold Out" is a chant that should be saved for storylines involving guys like Seth Rollins turning heel; guys leaving the industry to pursue their goals or just avoid being beaten to death should get a simple "thanks for being here for awhile, best of luck". Unfortunately, I don't actually expect them to chant "please don't go" (or an equivalent chant to that), but I think there's a better chance of that happening than the crowd turning on Brock to cheer Reigns. In other words, they won't be cheering Reigns. I guess shitting on both of them WM 20 style is possible, but ultimately I think Reigns is so much an avatar for the type of push smarks are sick of that they'll cheer Brock by default. Although, I agree with you that I hope they don't go the "you sold out" route again. Brock's making millions of dollars to show up on WWE TV maybe 10 times a year. Even factoring the wear and tear of wrestling, that's still a pretty sweet gig he'd be walking away from.
|
|
|
Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 4, 2015 23:27:03 GMT -5
I think they will cheer for Lesnar, but unless this match goes five seconds, you will hear at some point DANIEL BRYAN and CM PUNK. As someone who will be there, I will at least try for WE WANT ZIGGLER and WE WANT AMBROSE for variety, but I can't guarantee that much.
But, man it's going to be awkward in a few years discussing this main event about how this was the first time in history the crowd was primarily cheering for someone else in the main event. History will not be kind to Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar.
|
|
|
Post by Urfarkendarf on Mar 4, 2015 23:35:08 GMT -5
Didn't a lot of posters here say that Roman would be unmercifully booed out of the building at Fast Lane if he beat Bryan? Was never going to happen simply because Fast Lane was held in Memphis and smark fans dont flock to B PPVs unless its held in a place known for that type of reaction i.e. Philly, New York, etc. Frankly, I think the real test for Reigns' reaction (if he wins) will be the Raw following Mania. At least with Mania, its in an outdoor venue and the reaction can be masked in a lot of ways. Raw could be a clusterf*** reaction wise depending on the outcome at Mania.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 23:38:01 GMT -5
In short: they might boo him, or they might cheer him. Amazing journalism. People really pay for his newsletter? Like with real money?
|
|
BigWill
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Posts: 16,619
|
Post by BigWill on Mar 4, 2015 23:49:02 GMT -5
Fans knew Rock was leaving after WrestleMania, and they still had no problems booing Cena.
WWE's just in denial at this point.
|
|
|
Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 4, 2015 23:54:28 GMT -5
Didn't a lot of posters here say that Roman would be unmercifully booed out of the building at Fast Lane if he beat Bryan? Was never going to happen simply because Fast Lane was held in Memphis and smark fans dont flock to B PPVs unless its held in a place known for that type of reaction i.e. Philly, New York, etc. Frankly, I think the real test for Reigns' reaction (if he wins) will be the Raw following Mania. At least with Mania, its in an outdoor venue and the reaction can be masked in a lot of ways. Raw could be a clusterf*** reaction wise depending on the outcome at Mania. I wonder if the night after WM RAW crowd, instead of going in and booing Reigns, they'd actually consider not going in and leaving RAW to be filmed in front of thousands of empty seats. I'm not recommending it or condoning it from a personal stance, but I think that would make more of a statement at this point.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 23:59:09 GMT -5
Well they are the minority I believe. If someone has a hobby or an interest in something they will look it up online and look to discuss it with fellow people of the same interest. It's funny how shows like Lost never said "God damn these internet fans with their silly theories and their moaning about us dedicating an episode to Jack's tattoos. What do they know?" yet the WWE still do. Not even close. Average age of a RAW viewer is 41.4 years old. That means for every 21 year old that's on the net talking wrestling that means there's a 61 year old doing the same? I'm going to take a good guess and say no on that one. Sorry to say but the fans that actually do are still just a small segment of the audience. Way to many casual fans just watching RAW and that's it nowadays to even claim otherwise. You talk about wrestling as a hobby or interest. Most people still just view it as a TV show they watch every week. And those fans aren't the ones that matter. The 60 year olds probably aren't the ones subscribing to the Network, shelling out hundreds for PPV tickets, or buying T-shirts every month, so they're just a meaningless face among the masses that's opinion really doesn't matter. There's a reason 18-35 is the target demographic of basically every big company in existence.
|
|
|
Post by HMARK Center on Mar 4, 2015 23:59:13 GMT -5
Was never going to happen simply because Fast Lane was held in Memphis and smark fans dont flock to B PPVs unless its held in a place known for that type of reaction i.e. Philly, New York, etc. Frankly, I think the real test for Reigns' reaction (if he wins) will be the Raw following Mania. At least with Mania, its in an outdoor venue and the reaction can be masked in a lot of ways. Raw could be a clusterf*** reaction wise depending on the outcome at Mania. I wonder if the night after WM RAW crowd, instead of going in and booing Reigns, they'd actually consider not going in and leaving RAW to be filmed in front of thousands of empty seats. I'm not recommending it or condoning it from a personal stance, but I think that would make more of a statement at this point. That's what I was saying about the Rumble this year. I get that tickets are expensive, so leaving early probably feels like a kick to the wallet, but if you're THAT disgusted and infuriated, it sends a much clearer message to just leave. Failing that, just remain utterly silent. The lesson so many fans clearly haven't learned from the Cena era is "If you react, they'll take it as a good thing." Even when Cena gets booed out of an arena, WWE takes solace in knowing that he drew a reaction, even if it was a negative one. If you hate what you see, just stay in your seat, stay quiet, until they confuse you for a stereotypical puroresu crowd.
|
|
|
Post by berlynwright on Mar 5, 2015 0:00:50 GMT -5
In short: they might boo him, or they might cheer him. Amazing journalism. People really pay for his newsletter? Like with real money? Just over a week ago most said he's the best when he wrote that article about Bryan
|
|