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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 31, 2015 1:43:25 GMT -5
They need to depush him. He can have all the great matches in the world, but as long as he's under the microscope, people will continue to actively seek out his flaws and find reasons to justify booing him. Make us like the guy first, and then give him the world. You just can't do it the other way around. Notice how well it works for the current crop of NXT guys?
Look at Curtis Axel. They forced him as a Paul Heyman guy, and it damaged him for years, but he finally finds a style that works for him and people react.
But it will never happen so long as he's in the main event, where the most loyal fans don't want to see him.
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Post by misconduct was wrong on Mar 31, 2015 2:51:55 GMT -5
Yeah the goalposts are clearly being moved. Reigns put on a great match against Bryan, another with Lesnar. He didn't get the title, he's basically on the same level as Orton and Ryback. Nope keep on hijacking segments as if he's a bad wrestler and he didn't spend over a year in the shield destroying main eventers and having amazing matches. Just give Ambrose and Rollins all the credit. Now suddenly instead of 'he can't put on good matches and isn't ready to main event' (since he clearly can and does), its 'he needs to turn heel'. Its like we are just in 2006 again and its just nonstop 'Cena is a terrible wrestler who needs to turn heel and get away from the title'. Except Reigns doesn't even HAVE the title, and may not even be the next one to get it. Rollins has the title for 30 hours, give the guy a bit of a run with it before you ruin Rollins as a heel by cheering him, just because he's not Reigns. I believe that some feel that if they can destroy Reign's career it will somehow be a strike at Vince instead of realizing it is simply destroying someone's career who doesn't deserve it and it will not effect Vince at all as he will simply place another gear into the machine. Unfortunately many will refuse to give him a chance no matter how much he improves. This seems to be the most accurate thought thus far. Life in wrestling isn't fair. Sad but true.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 31, 2015 7:08:18 GMT -5
Looks like Roman's got his Clash. Cena's spot is truly in jeopardy. Can I not be regarded as a meme over this anymore?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 7:50:01 GMT -5
People will complain until he stops being a Wank Pheasant
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Post by mcstoklasa on Mar 31, 2015 7:58:57 GMT -5
I feel bad for Roman because he did great at Mania, and at Fast Lane. He will possibly have to turn heel though, now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 8:00:15 GMT -5
Look at Curtis Axel. They forced him as a Paul Heyman guy, and it damaged him for years, but he finally finds a style that works for him and people react. I think Axel's failure had less to do with a "forced push" and more to do with the fact that his highest profile wins were fluke count-out victories where he was the least important person in the match. That, and he only ever got decisive wins over jobbers, and he seemed to change his finisher on a weekly basis.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Mar 31, 2015 8:00:48 GMT -5
Does this mean that there won't be a 5+ page "discussion" about any and everything Roman Reigns now? Give us at least one more page
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Mar 31, 2015 8:10:13 GMT -5
Reigns is an interesting topic, what do you do with the guy. He needs to improve in ring and on the mic, he shouldn't be hot-shotted right to the world title picture. I do think turning him heel at some point makes sense, but the thing is I don't know if he'll excel there either at the moment. Plus we have Rollins as the main event top heel right now, which is the best.
If anything maybe have him be a tweener, I dunno. But all the ideas of how to book him are one thing, he just genuinly needs a lot more experience and he needs to improve.
If I was booking, I'd put him up against Cena for the US title. That would be interesting to see the crowd reaction there.
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Post by kidglov3s on Mar 31, 2015 8:15:05 GMT -5
Look at Curtis Axel. They forced him as a Paul Heyman guy, and it damaged him for years, but he finally finds a style that works for him and people react. I think Axel's failure had less to do with a "forced push" and more to do with the fact that his highest profile wins were fluke count-out victories where he was the least important person in the match. That, and he only ever got decisive wins over jobbers, and he seemed to change his finisher on a weekly basis. When step 1 of Project Fix Joe Hennig is to replace "Michael McGillicutty" with... Curtis Axel.
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Post by sunnytaker on Mar 31, 2015 8:53:35 GMT -5
i'm a bit relieved. i still say Reigns' big break through should be next year's mania- after missing the time to injury this past year the rush to push him to the main event spot just felt way too forced to annoint him as the new "man" for my liking. now he can get some breathing room and work on his flaws to be ready when the time comes since there's no time pressure on him at this point.
that being said i'm fine with rollins as champ too, if brock wsn;t retaining rollins is the best guy to have the belt right now.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Mar 31, 2015 8:59:17 GMT -5
i'm a bit relieved. i still say Reigns' big break through should be next year's mania- after missing the time to injury this past year the rush to push him to the main event spot just felt way too forced to annoint him as the new "man" for my liking. now he can get some breathing room and work on his flaws to be ready when the time comes since there's no time pressure on him at this point. that being said i'm fine with rollins as champ too, if brock wsn;t retaining rollins is the best guy to have the belt right now. I agree. I like Roman a lot, and in any other circumstances barring the ones we've been dealing with, I would welcome him in the main event, he just needs to fit the character that compliments his own style, rather than try to throw himself into a role the company is comfortable with Rollins had the organic build last year on the opposite side of the tracks that the company felt they were trying to give to Reigns. He missed no injury time, had chickensh*it traits that made him easily unlikeable in the way you need overpriveledged heels to be unlikeable, feuded with all the top-tier veterans, helped add to Ambrose's existing legend. Rollins was the perfect guy to walk out of 'Mania with a reward for all that hard work.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 31, 2015 9:01:32 GMT -5
Looks like Roman's got his Clash. Cena's spot is truly in jeopardy. Can I not be regarded as a meme over this anymore? If it helps, I wouldn't consider you the originator of this type of meme here. No, that honour goes to CATCH_US IS the Conversation and his thing for Alex Riley.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 31, 2015 11:24:31 GMT -5
Look at Curtis Axel. They forced him as a Paul Heyman guy, and it damaged him for years, but he finally finds a style that works for him and people react. I think Axel's failure had less to do with a "forced push" and more to do with the fact that his highest profile wins were fluke count-out victories where he was the least important person in the match. That, and he only ever got decisive wins over jobbers, and he seemed to change his finisher on a weekly basis. He was also as bland as the instant coffee I drank in my hotel room this morning, and continued to be until Axelmania gave him a shot of personality. That's what Roman needs, and he won't get it in the main event picture.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 11:39:09 GMT -5
He was also as bland as the instant coffee I drank in my hotel room this morning, and continued to be until Axelmania gave him a shot of personality. That's what Roman needs, and he won't get it in the main event picture. Well yeah he was bland, that was the reason they gave him Heyman as a manager. Having a charismatic dude do the talking for a bland but technically skilled wrestler is a concept as old as wrestling itself. The AxelMania thing is fun but let's not pretend it's revitalized his career - he's basically in the 2012 Heath Slater position of "comedy jobber with consistent TV time." Reigns ideally should step back from the main event scene for a while, but the trouble with that idea is that the credible midcarders he could face, like Rusev and Wyatt, can't really afford to take any more losses right now, and anyone below that level would be a waste of time. Reigns struggling to beat guys like Fandango is part of the reason he's in this mess in the first place.
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Post by FAR5222 on Mar 31, 2015 11:45:18 GMT -5
I really think Reigns' problem is that he isn't endearing enough like Bryan, Cena, Ryback, Sami Zayn. Or hell dude has no character to get invested in. He's a dude playing a faux badass wearing quasi-riot gear.
Why is he wearing the protective vest still? Why does he come through the crowd? Why does he still use music from his group that ended 10 months ago? Why can't he go in the ring like Sheamus or Luke Harper who are looked at the same way, as being hosses. These many questions need answers.
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 31, 2015 12:07:45 GMT -5
Roman losing doesn't change the fact that he didn't deserve to be there.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 31, 2015 12:24:11 GMT -5
I am ecstatic he didn't win the belt but I really feel like it's now just a countdown until he has it, and unless something about him changes, that will displease me regardless - although I guess I will watch every show with him as champion intently praying for him to lose the belt.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 19:11:24 GMT -5
Looks like Roman's got his Clash. Cena's spot is truly in jeopardy. Can I not be regarded as a meme over this anymore? Sorry about that, no disrespect. It's just a strikingly similar situation, with strikingly similar frequency of "come on guys, really?" But, in the end, only you can redefine your meme-ness. This is your Legacy (legacy) ehhhhhehhhehhhh
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