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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 6:50:53 GMT -5
Isn't Russo still an important voice in wrestling, somehow? He's so well-known.
Like, in any possible way? Maybe Russo could have his own show on the WWE Network or something, where he gives his opinions and stuff?
He's not just some random nobody after all.
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Post by Red Impact on May 21, 2015 8:30:25 GMT -5
Isn't Russo still an important voice in wrestling, somehow? He's so well-known. Like, in any possible way? Maybe Russo could have his own show on the WWE Network or something, where he gives his opinions and stuff? He's not just some random nobody after all. At one point, he was among the most important and influential figures in his industry, coming up with a huge idea that was extremely popular. But he kept trying to draw from the exact same well over and over again, while culture passed him by. Now he's just sad and tired and desperate for attention, and there's no need or reason to give it to him because any value in his voice is long gone. He's the Frank Miller of wrestling.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 21, 2015 8:37:30 GMT -5
Russo hasn't been "an important voice in wrestling" or relevant to any actual discussion since roughly 1997... that's almost 20 years ago. He has no idea how to connect with a main stream audience as shown in his runs with WCW and TNA... and now basically says shit to get attention. Isn't Russo still an important voice in wrestling, somehow? He's so well-known. Like, in any possible way? Maybe Russo could have his own show on the WWE Network or something, where he gives his opinions and stuff? He's not just some random nobody after all. At one point, he was among the most important and influential figures in his industry, coming up with a huge idea that was extremely possible. But he kept trying to draw from the exact same well over and over again, while culture passed him by. Now he's just sad and tired and desperate for attention, and there's no need or reason to give it to him because any value in his voice is long gone. He's the Frank Miller of wrestling. That is remarkably apt... Especially since you can go back and look at the "good" stuff and realize that all of his trademark bullshit is all over it...
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Post by saneiac on May 21, 2015 8:40:42 GMT -5
Guys, guys! Russo is absolutely right here! He brings up the amazing debuts of men like Steve Austin and The Rock, and how they were magical moments. I mean, who wasn't completely blown away by Steve Austin's WWF debut, where he had the brilliant gimmick of "Guy Who Doesn't Show Any Emotion", and started a scintillating feud with wrestling legend Savio Vega. How can anyone forget the WWF debut of Rocky Maivia at Survivor Series '96, using the genius gimmick of "His Grandfather Was Good, And His Father Was Good, So He's Probably Pretty Good, Too, Don'tcha Think? Oh, And His Hair Looks Like Dog Poop."
How can Owen's introduction compare to those jaw-dropping spectacles? What did Owens do? Go face-to-face with wrestling's top star of the past decade, beat him verbally, then beat him physically? Pppptttttt.
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Post by The Yes Man on May 21, 2015 9:14:26 GMT -5
That's a shame.
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Post by g1megatronfan on May 21, 2015 17:18:13 GMT -5
Who the hell is he?
He looks like a bearded Frisch's Big Boy. I'm not trying to be a smartass, but I honestly have no idea who this slob is. NXT?... which explains why I never heard of him I guess.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 21, 2015 18:24:25 GMT -5
Who the hell is he? He looks like a bearded Frisch's Big Boy. I'm not trying to be a smartass, but I honestly have no idea who this slob is. NXT?... which explains why I never heard of him I guess. No wonder Vince has a kink for muscles. Evidently some fans do too.
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Post by madness50 on May 22, 2015 11:11:34 GMT -5
Russo and Cornette vs Owens and Zayn at Summerslam BOOK IT MAGGLE!! Cornette turns on Russo 15 seconds into the match.
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on May 22, 2015 13:35:57 GMT -5
Who the hell is he? He looks like a bearded Frisch's Big Boy. I'm not trying to be a smartass, but I honestly have no idea who this slob is. NXT?... which explains why I never heard of him I guess. No wonder Vince has a kink for muscles. Evidently some fans do too. Vince tells us what is good, and some fall in line.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 13:58:51 GMT -5
I've spoken to Vince Russo and photographic evidence has led to the following
Bootytime: Russo has an unfortunately small penis and pictures proving it have angered him.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 22, 2015 14:03:40 GMT -5
Isn't Russo still an important voice in wrestling, somehow? He's so well-known. Like, in any possible way? Maybe Russo could have his own show on the WWE Network or something, where he gives his opinions and stuff? He's not just some random nobody after all. At one point, he was among the most important and influential figures in his industry, coming up with a huge idea that was extremely popular. But he kept trying to draw from the exact same well over and over again, while culture passed him by. Now he's just sad and tired and desperate for attention, and there's no need or reason to give it to him because any value in his voice is long gone. He's the Frank Miller of wrestling. This is probably the most apt analogy I've ever seen.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on May 22, 2015 18:42:49 GMT -5
Isn't Russo still an important voice in wrestling, somehow? He's so well-known. Like, in any possible way? Maybe Russo could have his own show on the WWE Network or something, where he gives his opinions and stuff? He's not just some random nobody after all. At one point, he was among the most important and influential figures in his industry, coming up with a huge idea that was extremely popular. But he kept trying to draw from the exact same well over and over again, while culture passed him by. Now he's just sad and tired and desperate for attention, and there's no need or reason to give it to him because any value in his voice is long gone. He's the Frank Miller of wrestling. I prefer to think he's the M. Night Shyamalan of Wrestling.
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Post by molson5 on May 22, 2015 18:49:38 GMT -5
Russo hasn't been "an important voice in wrestling" or relevant to any actual discussion since roughly 1997... that's almost 20 years ago. He has no idea how to connect with a main stream audience as shown in his runs with WCW and TNA... and now basically says shit to get attention. At one point, he was among the most important and influential figures in his industry, coming up with a huge idea that was extremely possible. But he kept trying to draw from the exact same well over and over again, while culture passed him by. Now he's just sad and tired and desperate for attention, and there's no need or reason to give it to him because any value in his voice is long gone. He's the Frank Miller of wrestling. That is remarkably apt... Especially since you can go back and look at the "good" stuff and realize that all of his trademark bullshit is all over it... I don't know exactly what makes a wrestling voice "important", but the guy can still generate a 5-page thread (and counting) here with his opinions. People still care about his take on things. And, FWIW, Russo's criticisms are directed towards the WWE, not Owens. Of course, that's wacky too, because Russo couldn't book his way out of a plastic bag and would have done much, much worse with all of these guys, but, just wanted to point that out.
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Post by Red Impact on May 22, 2015 23:48:33 GMT -5
I don't know exactly what makes a wrestling voice "important", but the guy can still generate a 5-page thread (and counting) here with his opinions. People still care about his take on things. And, FWIW, Russo's criticisms are directed towards the WWE, not Owens. Of course, that's wacky too, because Russo couldn't book his way out of a plastic bag and would have done much, much worse with all of these guys, but, just wanted to point that out. Sure, his thread gets responses. But so do Sunny's. To me, being important doesn't mean that people on the internet talk about it (whether it be to mock the opinions or to discuss them), it's being able to effect the industry in some way that extends beyond their paywall. Jim Cornett, who I think shares a lot of faults in how unable he's been to adapt to a modern era, is still important because of what he does with Ring of Honor, who has top level indie stars. Vince Russo's last notable act was getting TNA kicked off of Spike by his mere presence, if he has any importance now, it's a negative one.
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Post by chrom on May 23, 2015 14:56:47 GMT -5
Cornett has said that Owens doesn't look like a star. Tell me Jim, Owens is basically Vader if Vader was one hundred pounds lighter and more agile. Do you think Vader who weighed in at nearly 450 didn't look like a star as well?
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Post by Red Impact on May 23, 2015 17:25:21 GMT -5
Cornett has said that Owens doesn't look like a star. Tell me Jim, Owens is basically Vader if Vader was one hundred pounds lighter and more agile. Do you think Vader who weighed in at nearly 450 didn't look like a star as well? To Cornett's credit, it's not quite the same thing. Huge guys like Vader and Yokozuna do look more imposing, their size is an asset. I mean, if Umaga was shaped like Manu, he wouldn't have been nearly as impressive.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 23, 2015 17:26:57 GMT -5
Literally the only time Russo has ever been successful has been when Vince was hanging over his shoulder. He's an idiot, straight up. He can't keep track of his own storylines. Think about that for a second. His attempts to do shades of grey often resulted in every character in the story being an unlikeable dick. He is the bane of my wrestling OCD existence.
I feel confident in saying every single person reading this post could write a month of wrestling TV better than Russo
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 17:32:40 GMT -5
Sometimes I really wonder how the WWE would look nowadays if Russo had 100% creative control. A terrible thought indeed.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 23, 2015 19:10:30 GMT -5
Literally the only time Russo has ever been successful has been when Vince was hanging over his shoulder. He's an idiot, straight up. He can't keep track of his own storylines. Think about that for a second. His attempts to do shades of grey often resulted in every character in the story being an unlikeable dick. He is the bane of my wrestling OCD existence. I feel confident in saying every single person reading this post could write a month of wrestling TV better than Russo I could write an entire month of wrestling TV better than Russo simply by not having Jeff Jarrett win any WCW titles.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 23, 2015 20:16:53 GMT -5
Isn't Russo still an important voice in wrestling, somehow? He's so well-known. Like, in any possible way? Maybe Russo could have his own show on the WWE Network or something, where he gives his opinions and stuff? He's not just some random nobody after all. At one point, he was among the most important and influential figures in his industry, coming up with a huge idea that was extremely popular. But he kept trying to draw from the exact same well over and over again, while culture passed him by. Now he's just sad and tired and desperate for attention, and there's no need or reason to give it to him because any value in his voice is long gone. He's the Frank Miller of wrestling. Somehow I bet a Vince Russo version of Holy Terror would probably be even more racist. That, and the Fixer would be trying to disarm a terrorist's bomb atop a pole in the climax.
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