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Post by xCompackx on May 27, 2015 16:22:24 GMT -5
So we can assume that talent was told to spin this in a positive light. I can't wait to read notes from whatever happened during this conference call.
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Post by ayumidah on May 27, 2015 16:22:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I make fun but mostly because of Dixie. I feel terribly for the talent, especially guys who have recently really become favs of mine, like Spud and Ethan who always seemed so dedicated to try to turn things around for the company in interviews and such. It's not their fault, TNA was just too much of a mess when they arrived.
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Post by Talent Name on May 27, 2015 16:25:15 GMT -5
Look at the big positive, this is a huge upgrade from having Cops be the preshow
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 16:25:57 GMT -5
EY isn't stupid, he is a part of the Discovery family thanks to his fishing show, can actually go in the ring and dude is a wrestling fan. Anything happens to TNA, don't think ROH wouldn't hesitate to grab him.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 27, 2015 16:26:53 GMT -5
At the very least we have a slightly updated TNA description. So there's that.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 27, 2015 16:28:08 GMT -5
Is it still possible that DA might try to run two or more promotions on their network, especially if the ROH deal is cheap? Impact does not help promote their other shows, but if they have a wrestling block each show should feed into each other. Hell, if I was running DA I would be talking to both TNA and ROH about airing two 30 minute "greatest of" shows for both TNA and ROH to close out the Wednesday wrestling block. There's no real incentive to keeping Impact compared to the ROH deal, though. DA is paying money to TNA and getting bad ratings, absolute shitty management, and (allegedly) demands in return. Except they aren't getting bad ratings. Impact's ratings are better than DA's other programming. Aside from the alleged email botch, TNA have seemingly done nothing wrong. Yes it's Dixie's fault that their show is on Destination America in the first place, but that does not absolve DA for their ignorant and unrealistic expectations for what a pro wrestling product could bring to their network.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 27, 2015 16:31:43 GMT -5
There's no real incentive to keeping Impact compared to the ROH deal, though. DA is paying money to TNA and getting bad ratings, absolute shitty management, and (allegedly) demands in return. Except they aren't getting bad ratings. Impact's ratings are better than DA's other programming. Aside from the alleged email botch, TNA have seemingly done nothing wrong. Yes it's Dixie's fault that their show is on Destination America in the first place, but that does not absolve DA for their ignorant and unrealistic expectation expectations for what a pro wrestling product could bring to their network. All about that ad money, baby. I feel bad for the guys who are gonna lose their jobs but f*** TNA and f*** Dixie Carter. Again, they wouldn't even be in this position if they hadn't f***ed up on Spike, who basically gave them the world.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on May 27, 2015 16:33:35 GMT -5
Just throwing this out there... but the TNA board has more viewers than the WWE one today. OH MY! Dixie (on the conference call) : "See guys, we CAN beat the WWE!! The ratings ARE a lie!"
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Post by chrom on May 27, 2015 16:37:20 GMT -5
There's no real incentive to keeping Impact compared to the ROH deal, though. DA is paying money to TNA and getting bad ratings, absolute shitty management, and (allegedly) demands in return. Except they aren't getting bad ratings. Impact's ratings are better than DA's other programming. Aside from the alleged email botch, TNA have seemingly done nothing wrong. Yes it's Dixie's fault that their show is on Destination America in the first place, but that does not absolve DA for their ignorant and unrealistic expectations for what a pro wrestling product could bring to their network. They are bad ratings, Just above Three hundred Thousand viewers is nothing to gloat about considering they once had two million viewerst at one time. There are shows that get ten times that amount and still get the axe. TNA talked them into taking them claiming they'd get at least 800K for viewers as well as increase viewership for their other programs and failed to get half that and the ratings for other shows in fact have gone down. You can say your date at The Prom is the prettiest girl there all you want, but the truth of the matter is she's 600 ilbs, blind in one eye, has no teeth, and her feet look ready to give out at any second. That's what TNA is right now.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 27, 2015 16:39:41 GMT -5
Except they aren't getting bad ratings. Impact's ratings are better than DA's other programming. Aside from the alleged email botch, TNA have seemingly done nothing wrong. Yes it's Dixie's fault that their show is on Destination America in the first place, but that does not absolve DA for their ignorant and unrealistic expectation expectations for what a pro wrestling product could bring to their network. All about that ad money, baby. I feel bad for the guys who are gonna lose their jobs but f*** TNA and f*** Dixie Carter. Again, they wouldn't even be in this position if they hadn't f***ed up on Spike, who basically gave them the world. Yes, Dixie Carter can kick Dwaynes. I just feel that DA are the bigger assholes in this situation.
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Post by andrew8798 on May 27, 2015 16:40:57 GMT -5
So nothing was settled on the conference call. TNA talent still in the dark
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 16:41:08 GMT -5
LOTS OF TNA-ROH-DESTINATION AMERICA UPDATES by Mike Johnson @ 5:24 PM on 5/27/2015
Several readers have sent word that TNA talents have started sending out Tweets mentioning Ring of Honor coming to Destination America plugging they are the lead-in for TNA Impact Wrestling. From what I have been told, this is something TNA is doing on their own and not something that Destination America has requested of the company. There is no working relationship between TNA and ROH and this is not something the two companies came up with together. My belief is that it was a request that TNA management made of the wrestlers during today's conference call. It looks to be TNA's way of babyfacing an obviously embarrassing situation. Speaking of that call, I am still getting details but I was told it ran well over 90 minutes and as you could imagine, there were some less than happy TNA contracted talents on the line.
As far as how TNA could not have had an exclusivity clause for the network for pro wrestling programming, UTA negotiated the contract, not TNA, so any blame should fall upon them. I am very curious to see if Destination America is looking to add additional wrestling programming as obviously House of Hardcore, Global Force Wrestling, hell, even New Japan Pro Wrestling, etc. are out there.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 27, 2015 16:42:39 GMT -5
Well, I haven't checked this thread out today. Doubt there have been many updates but..
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Post by Welfare Willis on May 27, 2015 16:44:17 GMT -5
Careful there, you're describing DA's core audience.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 16:44:24 GMT -5
All about that ad money, baby. I feel bad for the guys who are gonna lose their jobs but f*** TNA and f*** Dixie Carter. Again, they wouldn't even be in this position if they hadn't f***ed up on Spike, who basically gave them the world. Yes, Dixie Carter can kick Dwaynes. I just feel that DA are the bigger assholes in this situation. Just no. DA delivered in every possible way and TNA failed miserably to even come close to bringing people over. Root for the underdog or whatever you want to deem it all you want but the underdog in this isn't the one delivering on its promises, it is the company owned by a billion dollar energy empire that failed to make the slightest impact with wrestling fans and cannot even pay its employees on time.
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Post by americanoutlaw911 on May 27, 2015 16:48:53 GMT -5
you know da did this to save moneys
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Post by jagilki on May 27, 2015 16:53:26 GMT -5
MVP: So, what does this mean for iMPACT?
Dixie: Well, it means that we're maybe going to have to shop my reality show to another network.
Manik: I'd watch that in a second.
MVP: Who cares about your reality show?
Josh: As long as I got my Mad Buckets of Cash I'll watch.
Austin Aries: Oh my god, why am I still here?
Eric Young: Because you burnt more bridges than a pyromaniac troll?
Davey Richards: Did you say something about burnt bridges?
Dixie Carter: SHUT UP, PAY ATTENTION TO ME!
Mr. Anderson: When di.
All: SHUT UP NOBODY LIKES YOU!
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Post by Sparvid on May 27, 2015 16:54:31 GMT -5
Jut throwing this out there... but the TNA board has more viewers than the WWE one today. OH MY! Dixie: "See, we're already generating a LOT of buzz today, sug!" "Hey, Serg, why aren't the FAN Mods putting over our viewer numbers more? What a bunch of dummies"
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Post by Welfare Willis on May 27, 2015 16:55:14 GMT -5
So nothing was settled on the conference call. TNA talent still in the dark To elaborate on your post, Dave said Dixie said she couldn't elaborate on the DA's stuff. So talent is still in dark until the meeting in June. There is benefit for ROH and TNA. ROH gets TNA's audience and exposure. TNA gets a lead in that could lead to potentially higher ratings.
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Post by Sparvid on May 27, 2015 16:56:09 GMT -5
It's an unconfirmed rumor still. Alvarez alluded to it today, saying he's heard it from enough of the right people that he believes it's likely true but didn't want to go into much detail as it was still unconfirmed. EDIT: Correction, he never specified what rumour he was alluding to but the co-host asked if it involved e-mails and he said yes and wouldn't go further. Mike Johnson mentioned that it was something that had been talked about within TNA for about a week or so before it became public, and also that although no one would confirm that it happened, no one was willing to flat out deny it either.
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