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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:18:12 GMT -5
So let me predict this thing using the company's logic...
- Ambrose gets screwed out of the title by the Authority at EC - Ambrose enters himself into the MITB which pits him against his best friend Reigns - Reigns/Ambrose go at it and Ambrose wins in his home of Ohio giving him the briefcase - Rollins survives the Brock feud but next thing he knows, Ambrose teases a cash in - Rollins stays champion as he's stalked by Ambrose during his entire run - Reigns eventually enters a feud with Rollins resulting in a match between them in which the Authority interferes. Ambrose comes out, knocks away the Authority for a bit allowing Reigns to win the title - Reigns celebrates with Ambrose and then Ambrose blindsides him, cashes in and becomes champion
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Post by Brooklynpunk97 on May 25, 2015 22:26:22 GMT -5
Well Duh!
You have someone connecting to the crowd, getting huge pops and kicking the bad guys ass?
Turn him heel.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:27:38 GMT -5
Well Duh! You have someone connecting to the crowd, getting huge pops and kicking the bad guys ass? Turn him heel. You have the best possible avatar for your post.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:28:59 GMT -5
Well Duh! You have someone connecting to the crowd, getting huge pops and kicking the bad guys ass? Turn him heel. You have the best possible avatar for your post. Exactly. You know how Vinnie Mack works. Part of me wonders how Triple H would book Ambrose if Vince didn't want to interfere.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 25, 2015 22:34:57 GMT -5
I'm going: Rollins beats Dean after Kane and Roman gets involved. Dean and Roman go into MITB and Roman wins. The Authority will drop Rollins the night after Summerslam because of his attitude (he'll start to act more face, pick at Trips and Steph and stop them from doing something to Roman that would cripple him), Rollins and Roman patch things up over the save/still being brothers and because Roman wants to cash in his MITB on Rollins at WM, Dean will be the last to come around but by the go home show for the PPV he'll make the save for Rollins and Reigns reforming Shield. We get a few months of Shield vs. Authority until the Rumble that is won by Dean setting up the Shield Triple Threat.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:37:36 GMT -5
I'm going: Rollins beats Dean after Kane and Roman gets involved. Dean and Roman go into MITB and Roman wins. The Authority will drop Rollins the night after Summerslam because of his attitude (he'll start to act more face, pick at Trips and Steph and stop them from doing something to Roman that would cripple him), Rollins and Roman patch things up over the save/still being brothers and because Roman wants to cash in his MITB on Rollins at WM, Dean will be the last to come around but by the go home show for the PPV he'll make the save for Rollins and Reigns reforming Shield. We get a few months of Shield vs. Authority until the Rumble that is won by Dean setting up the Shield Triple Threat. The only problem I have with this is that MITB takes place in Ohio which is where Ambrose is from so if Reigns wins I don't think they'd appreciate it much. I can see Ambrose and Rollins, one of them winning the Royal Rumble but I just can't see Reigns walking out of Ohio with the briefcase knowing that's Ambrose's home. If makes more sense in my eyes that Ambrose gets screwed again and he wins the briefcase which allows Reigns more sympathy points since he's still having it rough.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 25, 2015 22:41:22 GMT -5
I'm going: Rollins beats Dean after Kane and Roman gets involved. Dean and Roman go into MITB and Roman wins. The Authority will drop Rollins the night after Summerslam because of his attitude (he'll start to act more face, pick at Trips and Steph and stop them from doing something to Roman that would cripple him), Rollins and Roman patch things up over the save/still being brothers and because Roman wants to cash in his MITB on Rollins at WM, Dean will be the last to come around but by the go home show for the PPV he'll make the save for Rollins and Reigns reforming Shield. We get a few months of Shield vs. Authority until the Rumble that is won by Dean setting up the Shield Triple Threat. The only problem I have with this is that MITB takes place in Ohio which is where Ambrose is from so if Reigns wins I don't think they'd appreciate it much. I can see Ambrose and Rollins, one of them winning the Royal Rumble but I just can't see Reigns walking out of Ohio with the briefcase knowing that's Ambrose's home. If makes more sense in my eyes that Ambrose gets screwed again and he wins the briefcase which allows Reigns more sympathy points since he's still having it rough. You honestly think Vince McMahon cares about Dean not getting another show in Ohio centered him? They gave him the last Cincy show just 2 weeks ago and Dean is easier to play around with moving up and down the card than Roman.
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Post by Hiryu on May 25, 2015 22:41:33 GMT -5
I'm going: Rollins beats Dean after Kane and Roman gets involved. Dean and Roman go into MITB and Roman wins. The Authority will drop Rollins the night after Summerslam because of his attitude (he'll start to act more face, pick at Trips and Steph and stop them from doing something to Roman that would cripple him), Rollins and Roman patch things up over the save/still being brothers and because Roman wants to cash in his MITB on Rollins at WM, Dean will be the last to come around but by the go home show for the PPV he'll make the save for Rollins and Reigns reforming Shield. We get a few months of Shield vs. Authority until the Rumble that is won by Dean setting up the Shield Triple Threat. That little Kevin Owens reference by Steph tonight plants the seeds for this, IMO. I hope the Authority gets a few more members to challenge a reunited Shield though.
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Post by SUPES on May 25, 2015 22:46:40 GMT -5
How about Owens, shrugging off his defeats to Owens and because he is a HHH guy, costing Ambrose the title on Sunday, with a verbal "you're welcome" thrown in the direction of the stunned Rollins?
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Post by Starshine on May 25, 2015 22:50:06 GMT -5
I think Reigns wins MITB. Lesnar returns at the same show and destorys Rollins. They set up Lesnar/Rollins for SummerSlam, and Reigns cashes in making it a 3 way again. Reigns pins Rollins, and they build to Reigns/Lesnar 2 at probably Mania or something.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:51:41 GMT -5
I feel like they are using Ambrose's popularity to help boost Reigns tbh.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:57:39 GMT -5
The only problem I have with this is that MITB takes place in Ohio which is where Ambrose is from so if Reigns wins I don't think they'd appreciate it much. I can see Ambrose and Rollins, one of them winning the Royal Rumble but I just can't see Reigns walking out of Ohio with the briefcase knowing that's Ambrose's home. If makes more sense in my eyes that Ambrose gets screwed again and he wins the briefcase which allows Reigns more sympathy points since he's still having it rough. You honestly think Vince McMahon cares about Dean not getting another show in Ohio centered him? They gave him the last Cincy show just 2 weeks ago and Dean is easier to play around with moving up and down the card than Roman. I'm not even talking about Vince, I'm talking about the crowd. The crowd isn't going to react as well to Reigns winning the briefcase compared to Ambrose in Ohio and beyond that with this "Reigns is Ambrose's friend guys get it? Come on like him!" thing they're doing, it just wouldn't be a great look. It also builds less sympathy for Reigns which is what the company likely doesn't want right now unless Reigns is turning heel. It builds more sympathy on Ambrose's character, making him a larger face, while Reigns is still in his current position and that's in the "not popular enough" position. It makes more sense that after Ambrose is screwed against Rollins in every major match they've had since last year's MITB that he finally has an equalizer which unironically is the MITB briefcase. Now he can't be screwed. He can also stay a face with the briefcase or go heel depending on what they need to do with him. Say they want to turn Ambrose heel with this whole thing. Make Ambrose get the briefcase and cash in on a Reigns who finally wins the title. It builds more sympathy for Reigns, makes Ambrose a larger heel as well. It just works more from a booking standpoint and helps both guys out more considering Ambrose's character can be used in a more versatile way compared to Reigns given how the crowd sees them. With Reigns, it's not really the same situation as Ambrose. They're being very careful with Reigns and his character right now and that wouldn't do him any favors unless they plan on turning him heel. Besides, it's Reigns. The entire audience knows he's going to get the belt eventually. Having him win the briefcase now rather than next year, when he'll likely lose the title and he will need to win the briefcase before cashing in at Summerslam 2016, just doesn't make much sense. Finally, if Reigns wins the MITB and they want Ambrose to go heel, how is Ambrose going to betray Reigns? In this company's history since the MITB has been in play, the MITB's always been the biggest type of betrayal we've seen. If they want Ambrose to go heel then it makes sense for him to betray Reigns and I'd say that's the most logical decision. Just use briefcase on your former best friend. It gets the biggest response, Ambrose has the title and becomes the biggest heel in the company, he has an angry Reigns who's the former champion and his former best friend to work off of. Reigns gets more popular in the Ambrose feud and considering he's most comfortable with Shield guys than anyone else in the roster, after going through a Rollins feud and now an Ambrose feud we see Reigns continue to improve at a large rate. It's more avenues to work with.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 25, 2015 23:09:20 GMT -5
I disagree with every single bit of that to be honest. Roman is over and you aren't going to have to cater to the crowd, nor should they when they are booking far in advance. To me the bigger and better idea is what I laid out but that is fantasy booking in a nutshell. None go heel, Rollins turns face and we get the Shield in the Main Event of the biggest Wrestlemania ever.
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Post by SenorCrest on May 25, 2015 23:15:33 GMT -5
Out of the three Shield guys I thought Dean Ambrose was the one that was most ready to go to the top. I actually feel Dean won't really be at the top and they are just using him to get Roman over like @doge said
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 23:19:23 GMT -5
I disagree with every single bit of that to be honest. Roman is over and you aren't going to have to cater to the crowd, nor should they when they are booking far in advance. To me the bigger and better idea is what I laid out but that is fantasy booking in a nutshell. None go heel, Rollins turns face and we get the Shield in the Main Event of the biggest Wrestlemania ever. I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree but given this company, I cannot see them not turning Ambrose or Reigns heel once one of them cashes in. While I do think we're getting a Shield triple threat at WM and while I do think they'll reunite in the future (probably after a future Rollins/Triple H and Ambrose/Reigns feud), I highly doubt that they're all going to stay face, it would be unlike them. If Ambrose or Reigns don't turn heel within the next year then I'd be heavily surprised. I can't comprehend it.
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Post by RIHT on May 25, 2015 23:26:37 GMT -5
I'm somewhat suspicious as to why Reigns has no match for the PPV at all. I have a feeling the finish to the title match may be interesting.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on May 26, 2015 0:13:34 GMT -5
Has any face ever cashed in the briefcase without turning heel first or soon after? Not counting when they arrange the match ahead of time, like RVD did.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 26, 2015 0:15:39 GMT -5
Has any face ever cashed in the briefcase without turning heel first or soon after? Not counting when they arrange the match ahead of time, like RVD did. Punk 1. Only other face I can remember winning it other than him and staying that way was Cena.
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Post by Push R Truth on May 26, 2015 0:32:08 GMT -5
Ambrose won't win shit.
Reigns will.
Pick 7-8-14-22-27 and 2 as your powerball next week
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 0:47:51 GMT -5
Honestly I think my main bit of input is I'm amazed I found the product a lot more enjoyable when they were routinely pulling shit out of their asses and practically uprooting the main event scene on a monthly basis over now when they plan everything out for months in advance and make everything in between useless filler.
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