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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 1:30:23 GMT -5
But isn't wrestling for the mass audience is what pro wrestling really is? A presentation? It's basically athletic theater. In theater they teach actors more about how to act in front of the mass audience (the camera) and not to act away from it no matter how unnatural or awkward the concept is or how it can take away bit from the scene. Or how it may hold back a finer acting performance. But hey they do it anyways because the performance maybe technically finer for them, it sucks for the mass viewers. Wrestlers botching that's their own faults. They are paid for a job, they are expected to do it. Wrestling is a hard profession to do, if not one of the hardest and mistakes are inevitable But every professional wrestler in the WWE knew what they were signing up for that it's going to be the hardest wrestling job they are going to do because it's on National Television. They accepted the risks of more possible mistakes and failures to be made and exposed when they accepted the job. They know they need to adapt. That's the risk you take for fame and fortune. No such thing as a easy job or easy money. It's almost rarer than f***ing a unicorn. The only mass audience that should matter is the live crowd in attendance. The cameras' purpose is just to capture the action so that it can be broadcast to those of us at home. That's absurd. In the indies yes where a hot crowd, being an alternative is a huge selling point, and where there is sometimes more bank to be made at the gate than in DVD sales then yes. But in the WWE where the crowd is like usually 9-12 thousand people per show that is usually sitting on their hands anyways with millions of people watching the show across the world where they make more bank from TV viewership, then I think a crisp smooth TV presentation is way more important
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 28, 2015 1:36:35 GMT -5
The only mass audience that should matter is the live crowd in attendance. The cameras' purpose is just to capture the action so that it can be broadcast to those of us at home. That's absurd. In the indies yes where a hot crowd, being an alternative is a huge selling point, and where there is sometimes more bank to be made at the gate than in DVD sales then yes. But in the WWE where the crowd is like usually 9-12 thousand people per show that is usually sitting on their hands anyways with millions of people watching the show across the world where they make more bank from TV viewership, then I think a crisp smooth TV presentation is way more important I just feel that wrestlers' performances might have a better presentation if they just wrestled as opposed to trying to force all of their spots towards the camera
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 1:39:06 GMT -5
That's absurd. In the indies yes where a hot crowd, being an alternative is a huge selling point, and where there is sometimes more bank to be made at the gate than in DVD sales then yes. But in the WWE where the crowd is like usually 9-12 thousand people per show that is usually sitting on their hands anyways with millions of people watching the show across the world where they make more bank from TV viewership, then I think a crisp smooth TV presentation is way more important I just feel that wrestlers' performances might have a better presentation if they just wrestled as opposed to trying to force all of their spots towards the camera And a good wrestler adapts to the transition that itself never or rarely becomes a problem for them. That's just life. Usually the harder, more responsibilities, of the job, the more money you'll make. Edit: It's like the AHL and the NHL. In the AHL there are some players that post unbelievable goal scoring numbers in the AHL that look they have the best pure skills ever seen in a hockey player, but never shine in the big leagues when they get called up because they can never play the strict coaches gameplan system. Now there is a reason why the coaches system is in play with the majors because it works and playing on your instincts by yourself rarely ever works in the big leagues. It may work in the farm leagues but never in the big leagues.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 28, 2015 1:44:00 GMT -5
I just feel that wrestlers' performances might have a better presentation if they just wrestled as opposed to trying to force all of their spots towards the camera And a good wrestler adapts to the transition that itself never or rarely becomes a problem for them. That's just life. Usually the harder, more responsibilities, of the job, the more money you'll make. I agree with you on that much. But it just bugs me so much when I see guys who flat out suck because theyve been taught this rigid and restrictive method of wrestling and they don't know any other way, and then I see guys who are thousand of miles above them talent wise simply because they've had many years where they didn't have to deal with BS like that. It just tells me that WWE has its head up its ass and needs to change its ways. But in This scenario, the people who came up from the "farm leagues" are better because of what they did there as opposed to people who only know how to work the way that "the big leagues" taught them to work.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 1:52:40 GMT -5
And a good wrestler adapts to the transition that itself never or rarely becomes a problem for them. That's just life. Usually the harder, more responsibilities, of the job, the more money you'll make. I agree with you on that much. But it just bugs me so much when I see guys who flat out suck because theyve been taught this rigid and restrictive method of wrestling and they don't know any other way, and then I see guys who are thousand of miles above them talent wise simply because they've had many years where they didn't have to deal with BS like that. It just tells me that WWE has its head up its ass and needs to change its ways. I see this all the time in real life as well. I see guys who suck really bad at their job with no work ethic or no mechanical aptitude to be good at their job. Or I see no work ethic and great mechanical aptitude. Or great work ethic and no mechanical aptitude. There are slow learners that have potential to be great but it's a painfully slow process and fast learners. I see guys coming in with tons of experience and miles ahead everyone else and guys who are green as f*** and just suck. Point is everyone knew what they were getting into when they signed up for the job like every other job. Some current guys have turned WWE offers early in their careers like Daniel Bryan when he felt he wasn't ready and it paid off big time for him. Point is stop feeling sorry for the workers, they signed up to a job that they knew had a specific way of doing things and won't start changing things just for you because you can't do it. I see this all the time at work and everyone hates it if it's truly the most efficient way of doing something. But in This scenario, the people who came up from the "farm leagues" are better because of what they did there as opposed to people who only know how to work the way that "the big leagues" taught them to work.[/quote] Your success of your work is based on your talent of adapting to your work environment. Those guys who can only succeed in the farm league succeeded because they mastered how to play the AHL style, but couldn't adapt to succeed the NHL style. Also the NHL style is often the better style for when a player is sent back to the farm league after getting called up for a cup of coffee to relieve injury duty or because of a f***ing lockout, they often play better than before down there
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