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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 27, 2015 14:58:38 GMT -5
What would qualify as it succeeding (first of all) and how would it change the world of sports.
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Post by Push R Truth on Aug 27, 2015 15:21:44 GMT -5
I fully believe it's #1 contribution to all sports would have been nicknames on jerseys being standard
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Aug 27, 2015 15:33:12 GMT -5
I could see a cooperative agreement eventually between the NFL and XFL. Not an outright buyout by the NFL, as we know enough of Vince to know hed never do it.
Of course the whole concussion thing would seriously hinder the XFL's image, and force it to change.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Aug 27, 2015 15:39:16 GMT -5
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Post by Gremlin on Aug 27, 2015 15:40:54 GMT -5
He Love Me
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Post by ICBM on Aug 27, 2015 17:01:43 GMT -5
Buy out, shutter teams except two expansion franchises with NFL rebranding, good players absorbed via a merger draft. McMahon counts his money
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Aug 27, 2015 17:03:24 GMT -5
Total XFL, Wednesday nights at 8 on FOXSPORTS 1.
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Post by BRV on Aug 27, 2015 20:40:04 GMT -5
That's one of the largest "ifs" in sports history. No major professional football league since the AFL-NFL merger in 1970 has lasted more than a few years. The USFL, arguably the greatest threat the NFL will ever face, lasted three seasons. The ill-fated UFL lasted two seasons. The XFL lasted one.
Even if the XFL succeeded and outlasted all of those other leagues and played a fourth season in 2004, it would have still been regarded as minor league football for a niche audience. It wouldn't have been absorbed by the NFL or merged with the NFL, it would have been swallowed up by the NFL. The only way the XFL could have survived would have been moving indoors to be a threat to the Arena League, especially after the AFL cancelled the 2009 season. That would have been their best chance at long-term viability, moving indoors, becoming more gimmicky, and hoping it catches on.
As for influences, forget nicknames on uniforms or the pre-game scramble, we see the XFL's greatest influence during every televised college and professional football game: the flywire sky camera. That was pioneered in the XFL and it is now commonplace on every football broadcast.
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Post by Reflecto on Aug 27, 2015 20:46:29 GMT -5
Buy out, shutter teams except two expansion franchises with NFL rebranding, good players absorbed via a merger draft. McMahon counts his money I don't know if only two expansion teams would have made it for a true XFL "success"- the one somewhat shrewd choice the XFL made was having five of the eight teams outside of NFL cities in the first place. Put that into place, and it's likely that if the XFL truly succeeded, at least five, if not all eight XFL teams could have made it to the NFL (Orlando, Birmingham, Los Angeles, Memphis, and Las Vegas making it without a problem to join the Texans as expansion teams in the 2000s, with Chicago, San Francisco and NY/NJ told to either relocate to the highest bidder or be shuttered.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 20:51:41 GMT -5
XFL was dead when they started injecting story lines. I remember watching a game and Jesse Ventura questioned a call a coach made. Instead of letting it be, they sent a reporter to the sideline to get the coach's opinion of what Ventura said, instead of letting him focus on the game. I didn't watch a single second beyond that, although I might have finished that specific game.
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Post by ICBM on Aug 27, 2015 21:44:13 GMT -5
Buy out, shutter teams except two expansion franchises with NFL rebranding, good players absorbed via a merger draft. McMahon counts his money I don't know if only two expansion teams would have made it for a true XFL "success"- the one somewhat shrewd choice the XFL made was having five of the eight teams outside of NFL cities in the first place. Put that into place, and it's likely that if the XFL truly succeeded, at least five, if not all eight XFL teams could have made it to the NFL (Orlando, Birmingham, Los Angeles, Memphis, and Las Vegas making it without a problem to join the Texans as expansion teams in the 2000s, with Chicago, San Francisco and NY/NJ told to either relocate to the highest bidder or be shuttered.) The XFL markets the NFL would accept are LA and maybe Chicago. Vegas couldn't support a team on that level. There is simply too much to do there. Almost everything in LV supports tourism. Locals have money but work too often to spend it. The Air Force base would prolly go ve them a mild bounce but wouldn't sell out an NFL size stadium. And LA team that maybe comes in once or twice a season as an attraction could draw for Vegas. After LA is added from an XFL merger or buyout, Houston has the Texans so if you added another XFL market they could take the best of what is left of two XFL teams say Chicago and Birmingham and set them up in San Antonio where they have been trying to get a team since 1985 (yep I'm old enough to remember the Alamo some announcement in 86)
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Post by ICBM on Aug 27, 2015 21:44:25 GMT -5
*alamo dome
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Aug 27, 2015 21:56:24 GMT -5
Unless they could keep pace financially with the NFL they weren't going to be able to succeed on that level at all.
They would have been forced to sign has beens and guys with characters so bad the NFL wouldn't want them anymore.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Aug 28, 2015 1:46:28 GMT -5
I don't know if only two expansion teams would have made it for a true XFL "success"- the one somewhat shrewd choice the XFL made was having five of the eight teams outside of NFL cities in the first place. Put that into place, and it's likely that if the XFL truly succeeded, at least five, if not all eight XFL teams could have made it to the NFL (Orlando, Birmingham, Los Angeles, Memphis, and Las Vegas making it without a problem to join the Texans as expansion teams in the 2000s, with Chicago, San Francisco and NY/NJ told to either relocate to the highest bidder or be shuttered.) The XFL markets the NFL would accept are LA and maybe Chicago. Vegas couldn't support a team on that level. There is simply too much to do there. Almost everything in LV supports tourism. Locals have money but work too often to spend it. The Air Force base would prolly go ve them a mild bounce but wouldn't sell out an NFL size stadium. And LA team that maybe comes in once or twice a season as an attraction could draw for Vegas. After LA is added from an XFL merger or buyout, Houston has the Texans so if you added another XFL market they could take the best of what is left of two XFL teams say Chicago and Birmingham and set them up in San Antonio where they have been trying to get a team since 1985 (yep I'm old enough to remember the Alamo some announcement in 86) I think the Alamodome was first announce in the early 90s. It was built originally for the WLAF, but not in time. Now Alamo Stadium was another place, where the USFL, some pre season NFL, and the first season of WLAF were played, but had one major flaw. They couldn't sell alcohol since it was owned by a school district, which made teams hemorrhage money. The second season of WLAF was played in 92 at San Marcos at the college stadium. San Antonio would even use Via (the local busses) to get people from SA to SM.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 28, 2015 6:13:10 GMT -5
Unless they could keep pace financially with the NFL they weren't going to be able to succeed on that level at all. They would have been forced to sign has beens and guys with characters so bad the NFL wouldn't want them anymore. So pretty much what Bellator is to UFC?
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Post by ICBM on Aug 28, 2015 7:01:09 GMT -5
The XFL markets the NFL would accept are LA and maybe Chicago. Vegas couldn't support a team on that level. There is simply too much to do there. Almost everything in LV supports tourism. Locals have money but work too often to spend it. The Air Force base would prolly go ve them a mild bounce but wouldn't sell out an NFL size stadium. And LA team that maybe comes in once or twice a season as an attraction could draw for Vegas. After LA is added from an XFL merger or buyout, Houston has the Texans so if you added another XFL market they could take the best of what is left of two XFL teams say Chicago and Birmingham and set them up in San Antonio where they have been trying to get a team since 1985 (yep I'm old enough to remember the Alamo some announcement in 86) I think the Alamodome was first announce in the early 90s. It was built originally for the WLAF, but not in time. Now Alamo Stadium was another place, where the USFL, some pre season NFL, and the first season of WLAF were played, but had one major flaw. They couldn't sell alcohol since it was owned by a school district, which made teams hemorrhage money. The second season of WLAF was played in 92 at San Marcos at the college stadium. San Antonio would even use Via (the local busses) to get people from SA to SM. The dome was completed in the 90's but I recall clearly being very young 7 8) and my dad whooping it up when our local news guys in Victoria (112miles south of SA) did a story about the plans for the dome
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Aug 28, 2015 7:29:50 GMT -5
There would be Ochocinco Million Dollar Games
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 28, 2015 14:35:48 GMT -5
Superbowl 2015 Champions = LAS VEGAS OUTLAWS!
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Post by unc40 on Aug 28, 2015 14:57:51 GMT -5
The XFL could have worked if they would have dropped the our league is tougher than the NFL gimmick and just played football. XFL was dead when they started injecting story lines. I remember watching a game and Jesse Ventura questioned a call a coach made. Instead of letting it be, they sent a reporter to the sideline to get the coach's opinion of what Ventura said, instead of letting him focus on the game. I didn't watch a single second beyond that, although I might have finished that specific game. I believe it was the coach of the New York team who didn't go for it on fourth down and Jesse went on and on about it in the booth. New York went on to win the game and Jesse went down to the field after the game and was badgering the coach about it and the coach had a "Are you freaking serious we won the game" look on his.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 28, 2015 15:06:53 GMT -5
Family Feud
WWE Superstars vs XFL Ballstars
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