Push R Truth
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 16, 2015 8:51:56 GMT -5
I swear fanduel sets up fake accounts to put our rosters to fill tournaments. I'm amazed by the amount of people with perfect rosters There are people with thousands of "bot" accounts that play the statistical odds. I shouldn't have said "play". They don't really play anything, it's a script doing everything for them.
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BRV
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Post by BRV on Nov 16, 2015 13:12:15 GMT -5
Holy f***, John Oliver is brutally unfunny. He picks the lowest of low-hanging fruit, makes the same points that everyone else has made before him, yet he gets consistently praised as being some sort of daring comedic genius. Just when I thought we were clear and safe from Piers Morgan after CNN cancelled his show, along came his annoying little brother.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 16, 2015 13:18:00 GMT -5
Holy f***, John Oliver is brutally unfunny. He picks the lowest of low-hanging fruit, makes the same points that everyone else has made before him, yet he gets consistently praised as being some sort of daring comedic genius. Just when I thought we were clear and safe from Piers Morgan after CNN cancelled his show, along came his annoying little brother. Really? I think he's got one of the best shows on television, not primarily for the comedy, but for the actual long form reporting that doesn't exist on most other networks.
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BRV
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Post by BRV on Nov 16, 2015 13:28:11 GMT -5
Holy f***, John Oliver is brutally unfunny. He picks the lowest of low-hanging fruit, makes the same points that everyone else has made before him, yet he gets consistently praised as being some sort of daring comedic genius. Just when I thought we were clear and safe from Piers Morgan after CNN cancelled his show, along came his annoying little brother. Really? I think he's got one of the best shows on television, not primarily for the comedy, but for the actual long form reporting that doesn't exist on most other networks. I don't know, maybe it's a different strokes for different folks sort of thing, but any time I check Facebook or Twitter on a Monday morning and see people falling all over themselves to praise John Oliver for whatever he said the previous night, I just hear nails on a chalkboard. Back in August, I wrote: So I guess I have to give him some credit here, because there is a reasonable gulf between people who are for or against daily fantasy sports. It's not the lay-up topic that we're accustomed to seeing him take on. But the points he was making in that clip were nothing we haven't been hearing for the better part of the last two months.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 17, 2015 0:11:18 GMT -5
Really? I think he's got one of the best shows on television, not primarily for the comedy, but for the actual long form reporting that doesn't exist on most other networks. I don't know, maybe it's a different strokes for different folks sort of thing, but any time I check Facebook or Twitter on a Monday morning and see people falling all over themselves to praise John Oliver for whatever he said the previous night, I just hear nails on a chalkboard. Back in August, I wrote: So I guess I have to give him some credit here, because there is a reasonable gulf between people who are for or against daily fantasy sports. It's not the lay-up topic that we're accustomed to seeing him take on. But the points he was making in that clip were nothing we haven't been hearing for the better part of the last two months. You know what's the sad part? Shinning light on glaring wrongs is important because no one else in the big news areas does it with enough detail or force. Yeah its easy to reach the side he's on but someone still has to bring it up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 10:53:43 GMT -5
The last two points are both good ones. John Oliver does a lot of grandstanding, but it's grandstanding that covers subjects that don't get a lot of mainstream attention. As significant as this particular subject is, it's worth talking about all the same.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 17, 2015 18:05:16 GMT -5
Yeah, not to turn this into a John Oliver thread, but that's really the crux: most people hear the issues he discusses and likely agrees with the overall position he presents, but they're often issues people don't understand much about due to a lack of readily available information from other media (not a great excuse in the Internet age, but you know what I mean), or they're issues people might feel powerless about and maybe learning more about them helps them figure out ways to deal with whatever it might be, whether they want to get into being activists on the issue or just lining things up in their personal lives to deal with it. Plus, we're all so wired to think that shows like that need to revolve around divisive opinions that we kind of forget that long-form reporting isn't quite as much about that.
Anyway, back on topic: I have a close family friend who's big into fantasy sports...like, he's part owner of a fantasy-centric website and now makes some regular appearances on things like XM radio on their fantasy channel. I see he's writing in defense of daily fantasy, but I haven't gotten a chance to see his whole take on it. End of the day, I mostly believe it's just something that should be regulated and taxed; I don't want to bash anybody who does it, I have some friends who do, but it's clear the companies behind them have some shitty things going on that require oversight.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 18:17:03 GMT -5
The last two points are both good ones. John Oliver does a lot of grandstanding, but it's grandstanding that covers subjects that don't get a lot of mainstream attention. As significant as this particular subject is, it's worth talking about all the same. Especially considering that, while the comedy is hit or mess, depending on your prerogative, he does explore things a lot more than what others like to do. I mean, fantasy sports has gone from rotisserie leagues to Poker 2.0, but few people have expressed why or how that came to be other than that's the way it is now.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 18, 2015 18:47:25 GMT -5
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Nov 18, 2015 23:05:09 GMT -5
so anyone have a banging lineup for week 11?
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Nov 19, 2015 9:11:52 GMT -5
I read on Facebook that New York sent a cease and desist to Yahoo as well for their daily fantasy.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 19, 2015 9:45:07 GMT -5
Guys, I'm starting my own daily fantasy league. Should I call it Draft Duel or Fan Kings?
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Post by domrep on Nov 19, 2015 12:15:31 GMT -5
Would it be naive to think that one tweet from that DK employee where he got the ownership info was the final nail in the coffin, or was this always expected?
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 19, 2015 16:49:26 GMT -5
It started it and all the damn commercials
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 21, 2015 18:07:00 GMT -5
From SI
Blood is in the water now, as a whole load of people are being sued over their connection to DFS. . .
The National Basketball Association, Major League Baseball Ventures, National Hockey League Ventures and Major League Soccer The Kraft Group (owned by New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft), Legends Hospitality (co-owned by Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and the New York Yankees), and MSG Sports and Entertainment (owned by New York Knicks owner James Dolan) Turner Sports, Time Warner, NBC Sports Comcast Ventures, 21st Century Fox, Fox Sports Interactive Media Visa, MasterCard and American Express J.P. Morgan, Capital One Bank, Google Capital, Piton Capital and Scottish Investment Bank PayPal, Paysafe and Vantiv (payment processors) DraftKings, FanDuel and Jason Robins
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 21:38:01 GMT -5
I swear fanduel sets up fake accounts to put our rosters to fill tournaments. I'm amazed by the amount of people with perfect rosters I agree, I find it hard to believe that people just happened to pick players who have been garbage all year, who suddenly have a great game, and people picked them that week out of the blue. I feel it's a total scam. Edit...I am in a one dollar league, and the first place guy chose Doug Martin who hasn't done jack all season...wow, what a coincidence!
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Nov 22, 2015 23:12:55 GMT -5
So, one of the games I'm in oe guy is in first $25k and second $15k with totally different lineups
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 11, 2015 17:56:19 GMT -5
@wallachlegal
BREAKING: NY Judge blocks DraftKings and FanDuel from offering #DFS contests in NY for duration of case; grants preliminary injunction to AG
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 11, 2015 18:10:48 GMT -5
I swear fanduel sets up fake accounts to put our rosters to fill tournaments. I'm amazed by the amount of people with perfect rosters I agree, I find it hard to believe that people just happened to pick players who have been garbage all year, who suddenly have a great game, and people picked them that week out of the blue. I feel it's a total scam. Edit...I am in a one dollar league, and the first place guy chose Doug Martin who hasn't done jack all season...wow, what a coincidence! To be fair I picked Doug Martin that week. Some fill out multiple rosters trying to hit. Hell that's probably the best chance to win.
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Post by Lancers on Dec 11, 2015 21:50:45 GMT -5
I find the ads annoying as the next guy but how about instead if bemoaning gambling we regulate it and tax it instead of driving it underground It's sort of weird thing to be honest. I think it's a game of skill and it's still gambling. Daily fantasy as it currently exists is still such a new thing, that the fear among critics is that the game is rigged. And thus, people are basically gonna wind up getting swindled out of money because they think that their love of a sport is all they need to win money. But as shown in the Last Week Tonight segment, you're probably going up against computer science whizzes who study algorithms, analytics and advanced metrics all day long, thus giving them a significantly better chance at winning than someone picking random names out of gut instincts. The commercials make it seem like that anyone can win. Like meathead bartender bros from Massachusetts. But the truth is, they won't. It's a game of skill. Too much skill. So the government is pre-emptively trying to shut it down worried about the financial risk it can provide people who do suffer from gambling addictions. Is it a hypocritical stance considering how casinos can be legalized? Sure. Maybe DFS companies need to start greasing a few wheels in state offices instead of having commercials on ESPN every commercial break.
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