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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Sept 21, 2015 10:01:34 GMT -5
Doesn't Brawler deserve it for his road agent work alone? He's had a huge influence on wrestling just through that. It's hard to judge how good he is at it, though.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Sept 21, 2015 10:14:11 GMT -5
In this thread are we supposes to be worked in to thinking that the WWE HOF is a shoot? Meaning am I supposed to forget that it's all up to Vince and the people that have his ear and pretend it's a legit process for inductions?
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Post by Zen411 on Sept 21, 2015 10:17:43 GMT -5
Maybe Luna vachon
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 21, 2015 14:14:06 GMT -5
Khali He'll get in eventually on the basis of being the first Indian world champion. My immediate thought. I love that big goof, he's always over and a former champ. Also, I've never seen anyone manhandle the Undertaker like that.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Sept 21, 2015 16:48:51 GMT -5
In this thread are we supposes to be worked in to thinking that the WWE HOF is a shoot? Meaning am I supposed to forget that it's all up to Vince and the people that have his ear and pretend it's a legit process for inductions? Yep.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2015 16:56:19 GMT -5
Super hard question, for many reasons. A good one though. I'd have the standards higher than "is cool with WWE" to begin with, so that will inform my answer.
I would say Lex Luger and Jeff Jarrett are low end hall of famers in my book.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Sept 21, 2015 16:58:43 GMT -5
Bundy by a hairline... Mike Rotunda as well, he was Lucky to be assiociated with many more popular guys (Money Inc, NWO, Varsity Club, US Express) Rotunda was a great talker. I agree that he was terrible in the ring through, even with his amateur background.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 21, 2015 17:10:25 GMT -5
Bundy by a hairline... Mike Rotunda as well, he was Lucky to be assiociated with many more popular guys (Money Inc, NWO, Varsity Club, US Express) Rotunda was a great talker. I agree that he was terrible in the ring through, even with his amateur background. One of the better NWA Television Champions. He was far from terrible in the ring, though I'd agree he wasn't as good as Barry Windham or Ted DiBiase.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Sept 21, 2015 17:15:10 GMT -5
Rotunda was a great talker. I agree that he was terrible in the ring through, even with his amateur background. One of the better NWA Television Champions. He was far from terrible in the ring, though I'd agree he wasn't as good as Barry Windham or Ted DiBiase. Any matches you recommend? I honestly can't recall seeing a Mike Rotundo match that didn't bore me shitless.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 21, 2015 17:36:20 GMT -5
One of the better NWA Television Champions. He was far from terrible in the ring, though I'd agree he wasn't as good as Barry Windham or Ted DiBiase. Any matches you recommend? I honestly can't recall seeing a Mike Rotundo match that didn't bore me shitless. I would say that he was far from terrible. He worked a style for his time and era. He was not terrible at executing moves. He was not terrible at selling. He could work tag matches or singles. Except for early in his career, he often worked a heel style and he often cheated to get heel heat. In WWF, he worked the WWF style at the time, which was not primarily focused on having great matches. It was a lot of jobber TV matches. He did what was expected of him. I have no specific matches to watch, but I'd say watch his matches in the NWA from the 1980s when he was pushed as a heel.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Sept 21, 2015 17:51:30 GMT -5
Any matches you recommend? I honestly can't recall seeing a Mike Rotundo match that didn't bore me shitless. I would say that he was far from terrible. He worked a style for his time and era. He was not terrible at executing moves. He was not terrible at selling. He could work tag matches or singles. Except for early in his career, he often worked a heel style and he often cheated to get heel heat. In WWF, he worked the WWF style at the time, which was not primarily focused on having great matches. It was a lot of jobber TV matches. He did what was expected of him. I have no specific matches to watch, but I'd say watch his matches in the NWA from the 1980s when he was pushed as a heel. Terrible was probably not the word but, as I say, he was one of the blandest workers I've ever seen. I've seen plenty of wrestling in the 80s NWA and 80s WWF style, so I'm aware that the old style was slower and less flashy and that heels at the time tended to not do a lot as a way to get heat. I understand all of that. I just feel that most people of the era were more entertaining while doing all that. I consider him a very good talker and commend him for being able to get shitty characters like wrestling accountants and stockbrokers over with his commitment to the gimmick and his promo skills alone. My problem with Rotundo is that, once the bell rings, all interest I have is gone almost instantly.
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Post by No Name is needed Bro Beans on Sept 21, 2015 18:24:18 GMT -5
Hercules Boris Zhukov Outlaw Ron Bass Rugged Ronnie Garvin I thought he was awesome but New Jack Jim Powers Paul Roma Me Scott Norton awesome as well just wanna see him in hall of fame just like most of my picks Billy jack Haynes
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Post by Woo on Sept 21, 2015 18:35:08 GMT -5
No way, Luna Vachon should be an easy HOF. Heck, she should be the next female in there. I'd have Luna above Mickie, Molly and Victoria and I think they'd just make it in. Someone said Luger which is crazy. He should have gone in years ago.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Sept 21, 2015 18:59:18 GMT -5
By "worst overall performer" I assume you meaery n the person who was worse at their intended skill? Like, for regular wrestlers, they would be the worst at actual wrestling, managers bad at managing, commentators bad at commentating, etc. I ask that because I want to say The Brooklyn Brawler. I say he deserves to be a Hall of Famer because he was a WWF icon in his own right who deserves to be remembered. But he wasn't much of a wrestler or talker, but he WAS good at jobbing. WHICH was his intent all along. So was he the worst? Actually you could make the case that he was the BEST jobber. As for wrestlers, I maintain that they should put as many former World Champions as possible. So that brings up, just to name a few, Jack Swagger, The Miz and The Great Khali. Although I don't know if any of them should be in the Hall of Fame, but I kind of want to make a case for Miz, since he has a good amount of charisma and the fact that he made it to the top of pro wrestling despite starting out on a reality show. But he wasn't much of a wrestler. So this is a tough one for me, but if I had to choose now, I choose Miz. Miz absolutely deserves a HoF spot and isn't close to the lower end. He's not a headline name, nor likely 2nd billing, but the dude main evented a Mania, for the title, and has held every accolade possible after starting out as "that reality tv guy". Khali was an appalling wrestler but deserves to go in. First Indian world champion, and, at least at first, he had a hell of a presence. Couldn't wrestle, no, but didn't really need to. Swagger, I like, but I think he would have to be at the very, very bottom threshold for HoF, as despite being a World Champion, he's never done anything particularly memorable besides the Real American(s). It's hard for me to figure out what the bottom end of it would be. I think a good rule might be- they'd get in if they were WWE, but comparable WCW stars wouldn't. Since we all know Vince isn't gonna induct many WCW guys unless they had big WWE runs too. Edit: Tag team guys are a weird one for me. Jannetty, IRS etc. I don't know if they can go in solo or just for their tag work. Rick Steiner for example, the Steiner Brothers should absolutely go in (but probably wont due to Scott), but would Rick Steiner alone get in? Probably not.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Sept 21, 2015 20:28:06 GMT -5
Chris and Mike Von Erich are also in the HoF. At least James Dudley worked for the WWE.
People like the Brooklyn Brawler, the Godfather, Tony Garea, Jacques Rougeau, the Nasty Boys, Teddy Long, the Barbarian, and Hillbilly Jim are probably near the cutoff.
They're ahead of guys like Christopher Daniels, Perro Aguayo, and Masahiro Chono just as much as they're ahead of Damian Demento, Mantaur, and the Heartthrobs because they had decent WWE runs within their careers.
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