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Post by StormanReigns on Nov 2, 2015 0:55:36 GMT -5
I watch a lot of sports from around the world, the only country's leagues to present their trophy's to owners are American (NBA,MLB,NFL) The NHL's history was created in Canada, and presented a trophy far prior to those other leagues.
As a nation, can we stop doing this please? Most owners play a very small part in their team. Yes there are the Jerry Jones' and the Mark Cuban's who control every aspect of their team and are really involved, but outside of them, it really seems like a fetish to honor billionaires for no reason.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 2, 2015 1:34:12 GMT -5
It's to remind us who is really in charge of the world. Rich White Establishment males
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 2, 2015 16:23:44 GMT -5
What world do we live in when owning a team and operating it however you want too is considered being "a very small part of the team".
I know that's not the cool side to take, but come on!
If some old crusty dude wants to write me million+ dollar checks, who gives a shit if he touches a trophy first!
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 2, 2015 16:54:08 GMT -5
What world do we live in when owning a team and operating it however you want too is considered being "a very small part of the team". I know that's not the cool side to take, but come on! If some old crusty dude wants to write me million+ dollar checks, who gives a shit if he touches a trophy first! Owners are a big part of the club or the organisation. Not the team. The team captain should be the one to lift a trophy first. |
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Post by Reflecto on Nov 2, 2015 17:23:04 GMT -5
All of you don't see the struggles made by these owners in order to get to this point for the team.
Like last night, the Royals' ownership group's struggle. After 30 years of the owners of Wal-Mart running the Royals the same way they ran their stores, nickel and diming the team with a poor product on the field to try and profit from revenue sharing at the expense of the sports fans and the fans of Kansas City, finally lucking into it taking against all odds and getting a team that can win games to finally actually win a title...it was a long road to find a way to turn a profit for 30 years with AAA-level baseball and somehow finding a way to win.
It's a great honor for the ownership as much as the team!
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Post by Nickybojelais on Nov 6, 2015 17:42:46 GMT -5
I absolutely agree with this.
The trophy presentation of any soccer, cricket or rugby tournament is jubilant. In front of all the fans, the players lift the trophy to music, confetti and champagne. The trophy presentation for the World Series last week was so dull in comparison, handing the trophy to some old man in a suit locked away in a dressing room visible to no fans.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 7, 2015 10:47:59 GMT -5
I honestly like it in baseball when they do the trophy presentations in the clubhouse; I enjoy watching the players get to celebrate as a group and seeing the champagne party when the trophy's coming out. What I don't like is that the trophies, as said above, first go to the owners...watching the Wilpons hoist the NL trophy a couple of weeks ago made me make sour faces.
MLB, however, has begun doing on-field trophy presentations when the home team clinches the pennant or World Series, so I guess they've begun changing that.
What sucks, to me, is when they take the time to set up a freaking stage and confetti guns for trophy presentations. It makes the whole thing look so phony and overproduced, and by the time they're presenting it that initial rush of joy for the players is starting to cut back a little bit. The NFL is horrendous about this, especially since basically every Super Bowl is a neutral site game.
That all said, yeah, the NHL has it down nicely: huge outburst of emotion from the team, handshake line, quickly walking the Cup out, then handing it off to the team captain so the club can party with it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 12:56:56 GMT -5
Lots of owners spend way too much money their team to make them a winning team and do everything to keep them their market despite losing millions every year. Owners like Katz refuse to fire there friends like Kevin Lowe despite having the lowest winning record of any GM/President of Hockey Operations of the past 10 years which makes Katz even more responsible than Lowe in turning oilers in a cesspool franchise.
You have cases like Dolan who does way too much with the Knicks making him the worst owner in the NBA but at the same time he limits on what the Rangers can spend on free agents and gives them complete creative control making the Rangers one of the best franchises in the NHL.
But yeah f*** the owners because they are filthy 1%'ers who don't spend hundreds of million dollars on a team and hire extensively hundreds of various professionals to run the business operations to keep the team profitable so they can make money to compete in the league and hire guys running the sports organization to make the team competitive both and in the now and the future.
Yeah that doesn't take skill in hiring the best people to run the teams who were often nobodies before. Like hiring on some nobody named Lou Lamoriello in 1987 to run the team is way more impressive than throwing big money atLou Lamoriello in 2015 based on his reputation despite his recent past record
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