Blindkarevik
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Post by Blindkarevik on Nov 4, 2015 16:43:05 GMT -5
If this is put in a museum or used for educational purposes, I see no problem with it. In fact, I think it'd be a great tool for other subjects in history as well. Some kids are very visual learners where you can talk, or make them read all day and they still won't retain much information... but show them something like this that is historically accurate and they'll suck up the information like a sponge.
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BRV
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Post by BRV on Nov 4, 2015 17:08:01 GMT -5
If this is put in a museum or used for educational purposes, I see no problem with it. In fact, I think it'd be a great tool for other subjects in history as well. Some kids are very visual learners where you can talk, or make them read all day and they still won't retain much information... but show them something like this that is historically accurate and they'll suck up the information like a sponge. That's kind of the way I view it. As a video game for a console or PC or mobile device, it's abhorrent and exploitative, because people are clearly trying to make a dollar off of the deaths of 3,000 people. That being said, if this were an exhibit at a 9/11 memorial museum, I'd tolerate it, because it would be exclusively for educational purposes. And as you said, it could be a tool for children or young adults who are more kinesthetic learners. From that point of view, it's somewhat similar to what is done at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC. At that museum, you receive a leaflet when you enter and you learn the story of a person who was actually in the Holocaust as you tour the museum, then before you leave, you find out whether that person survived. That's an invaluable educational tool. But if there were an online "Would you survive the Holocaust?" game in which you need to navigate your way through Dachau, that'd be reprehensible.
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Post by Speedy Cerviche on Nov 4, 2015 17:24:28 GMT -5
It looked more like a tech demo tbh. Also, JFK Reloaded was fun but I was awful at it.
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Post by bob on Nov 4, 2015 17:34:21 GMT -5
just...................why
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Post by mysterydriver on Nov 4, 2015 19:49:18 GMT -5
I wonder if they have an Easter egg where if you can run down a couple flights of steps you'll see Robert Pattinson's character from Remember Me eating a sandwich, oblivious of what is to come.
...Am I a bad person?
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Post by Andy Martin on Nov 4, 2015 21:54:44 GMT -5
Actually it's kinda cool, from a historical viewpoint. If they made it an actual "game" where you find an assault weapon and need to get yourself to the ground and out the building before the time t elapsed while fighting throngs of mini Satans I'd say it's in horrible taste, but to experience a true event in our history as horrifying as it is brings you into what was a historical day I'm pretty sure you just spoiled the plot to the next Call Of Duty game.
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4TheGlory
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Post by 4TheGlory on Nov 4, 2015 22:24:40 GMT -5
I know it is incomplete but it was missing a lot of the things that made 9/11 so creepy. The building in this looked so empty and abandoned. No one screaming for help, no buzzing of news helicopters, no constant wailing of sirens.
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Post by stealthamo on Nov 4, 2015 22:42:04 GMT -5
I wonder if they have an Easter egg where if you can run down a couple flights of steps you'll see Robert Pattinson's character from Remember Me eating a sandwich, oblivious of what is to come. ...Am I a bad person? Yes, but only because you made me think about Remember Me.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Nov 4, 2015 22:57:35 GMT -5
As Goku would say....Dark.
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Post by Giul T. on Nov 5, 2015 0:22:41 GMT -5
Anyone played this? ![](http://i.imgur.com/TKRYYcV.jpg?1) It's pretty good That's the game I immediately thought it was going to be.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 5, 2015 1:15:37 GMT -5
Presented as-is, it's perfectly fine. I could get behind a fully-formed simulation of what happened as an educational tool that demonstrates why the towers collapsed the way they did, and highlights the heroism of those who sacrificed their lives to give others a chance of surviving.
As others have said, if this were presented as a straight up game, or played from the terrorists' perspective it would be way overstepping the boundaries of good taste and decency.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 4:43:38 GMT -5
If this is put in a museum or used for educational purposes, I see no problem with it. In fact, I think it'd be a great tool for other subjects in history as well. Some kids are very visual learners where you can talk, or make them read all day and they still won't retain much information... but show them something like this that is historically accurate and they'll suck up the information like a sponge. What information? All that's there is how horrific it was. Anyone with the slightest shred of empathy can understand that without a VR simulator depicting it. There's zero educational or historical value here. This is something that was done just to be done, not with some greater purpose related to the common good. There's no value in it besides achievement in virtual reality programming or whatever you'd call it, and it doesn't even seem any good at that. And anyways, kids should be able to learn from reading, and especially listening. Those are life-skills that should be cultivated through education. We can't, and shouldn't, make a VR simulation for everything.
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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Nov 5, 2015 10:20:57 GMT -5
I think the most controversial/offensive game has to be that anti-gay game that Jim Sterling did a video on a while back.
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The Sam
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Post by The Sam on Nov 5, 2015 10:55:25 GMT -5
The most controversial game ever is a porn VR game where you experience 9/11. Is THIS "Frog Fractions 2"?
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Post by hassanchop on Nov 5, 2015 11:14:47 GMT -5
What if they made one about Flight 93, the last moments when the passengers tried to fight back?
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 5, 2015 12:25:23 GMT -5
If this is put in a museum or used for educational purposes, I see no problem with it. In fact, I think it'd be a great tool for other subjects in history as well. Some kids are very visual learners where you can talk, or make them read all day and they still won't retain much information... but show them something like this that is historically accurate and they'll suck up the information like a sponge. What information? All that's there is how horrific it was. Anyone with the slightest shred of empathy can understand that without a VR simulator depicting it. There's zero educational or historical value here. This is something that was done just to be done, not with some greater purpose related to the common good. There's no value in it besides achievement in virtual reality programming or whatever you'd call it, and it doesn't even seem any good at that. And anyways, kids should be able to learn from reading, and especially listening. Those are life-skills that should be cultivated through education. We can't, and shouldn't, make a VR simulation for everything. This is all true, but putting yourself in a first person perspective seeing how it happened is going to have more impact. 9/11 was a long time ago, to kids in school, it's just another fact they have to learn that happened before they were born, making a lesson more immersive and personal can be a great tool.
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Eunös ✈
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Nov 5, 2015 19:27:18 GMT -5
It's crazy to think that most of Todays School Kids weren't even born yet or were still Babies when 9/11 happened, Yet I still remember it well like it was yesterday.
As far as this goes.. I'm not offended by it personally, but than again I didn't lose anyone that day.
I've sometimes wondered what it must have been like being stuck in those Towers on that day, So this game has me slightly curious.
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Post by kidglov3s on Nov 5, 2015 19:46:07 GMT -5
What if they made one about Flight 93, the last moments when the passengers tried to fight back? And you play as one of two horndogs in the bathroom that were doin it as shit was goin down. (this information previously kept confidential to protect the innocent)
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 5, 2015 19:48:48 GMT -5
If you're going to do a game about 9/11, you keep it in the background.
For example you play a kid looking for his firefighter dad, or something, but in searching for him, he discovers an abstract, surreal world, like "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway".
When it's all over, he finds his dad alive and well. A happy ending.
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Post by brody on Nov 6, 2015 11:07:44 GMT -5
I have always wanted to play JFK Reloaded...
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