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Post by RI Richmark on Dec 15, 2015 8:25:21 GMT -5
Bumping up for more votes
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 18, 2015 9:05:10 GMT -5
Bagwell Bonds Clemens Griffey Edgar McGriff Bic Mac Piazza Raines Sosa
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 17:10:03 GMT -5
Griffey Bonds Clemens
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Post by RI Richmark on Jan 3, 2016 16:39:40 GMT -5
Bumping for some last minute votes. Results revealed Tuesday.
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Post by BRV on Jan 3, 2016 21:31:26 GMT -5
Here are my seven inductees and the reasoning behind each selection.
- Jeff Bagwell: Career .297/.408/.540 line with 449 career home runs, one of the most dominant power hitters of his era, and a surprisingly stout defensive first baseman through the first half of his career. I can't understand all of this PED talk, because unlike alleged PED users, his career fell off a cliff when he hit his late 30s, as opposed to finding new life.
- Barry Bonds: You want to put it on his plaque that he was a PED guy? Be my guest. Babe Ruth didn't have to play against players of color. Hank Aaron hit his 755 home runs in an era when amphetamines were passed around like chewable vitamins. If you look hard enough, I'm sure you could find something to accuse every baseball player ever. But don't ignore the 494 home runs, 471 stolen bases, three MVP awards and nine All-Star appearances that he achieved before his alleged steroid use began. Also, he's baseball's all-time home run king. In an era when almost everybody was cheating, he was still the most feared hitter in the game.
- Roger Clemens: Like Bonds, he was a Hall of Famer before the alleged PED use, and like Bonds he deserves enshrinement. One of the most dominant power pitchers ever, plain and simple. And like Bonds, if you want to slap an asterisk on his plaque, feel free.
- Ken Griffey Jr.: Injuries derailed his quest to be the all-time home run king, but he was still one of the quintessential players of his generation. A once-in-a-lifetime talent, he slugged 630 home runs, was a 13-time All-Star, 10-time Gold Glove winner, and finished in the top 10 in MVP voting seven times. Before his career was sidetracked in 2000, he was well on his way to becoming arguably baseball's greatest player ever. Also, and while I'm not one to carp on the issue considering I have Bonds and Clemens on my ballot, he did it without a hint of steroid use. He was our era's Willie Mays and if anyone deserves unanimous entry into the Hall of Fame, it's The Kid.
- Mike Piazza: On the Mount Rushmore of the catching position, alongside Carlton Fisk, Johnny Bench and Pudge Rodriguez. A trainwreck defensively, but easily the most dominant offensive catcher of his generation. A lifetime .308 batting average ain't too shabby for a backstop.
- Tim Raines: Played in the era of Rickey Henderson, and was stuck for most of his career in Montreal, but he absolutely deserves to be in Cooperstown. One of the most feared baserunners ever, Raines stole 808 bases in 954 attempts, for an unfathomable stolen base percentage nearing 85 percent.
- Curt Schilling: My last two ballots did not include Schilling, but I've warmed to his candidacy over the past year or so. He doesn't have longevity on his side, having been an ace pitcher for about a decade and he never won a Cy Young Award, but he was a bulldog on the mound and was the kind of guy you could hand the ball to in October and know he'd get the job done. 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA in 19 postseason starts, Schilling was a driving force on three World Series champions and four World Series finalists spread over 14 years. While his starts in the 2004 postseason were memorable for how he gutted out an ankle injury, his performance in the 2001 World Series is one of the single most dominant playoff pitching performances ever.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jan 3, 2016 23:58:49 GMT -5
Griffey Jr. Hoffman Piazza Trammell
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Post by BRV on Jan 4, 2016 0:16:33 GMT -5
With about 32 percent of the ballots already public, the current Hall of Fame class would be Jeff Bagwell, Ken Griffey Jr., Mike Piazza, and Tim Raines, with Trevor Hoffman and Curt Schilling hovering around 60 percent, the two closest to reaching the 75 percent threshold.
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Post by RI Richmark on Jan 5, 2016 19:17:22 GMT -5
Well the votes are in and for the third straight year only two people got over the necessary 75% (40.5 votes) to qualify. They are: Ken Griffey Jr. One of baseball's all-time most popular players, Griffey became the first player in the FAN balloting to get the full 100% of the vote. Griffey was a 13 time All-Star, the AL MVP in 1997 and his is sixth all time in home runs with 630. He was also the youngest player to be named to the Major League Baseball All-Century Team in 1999. and Mike Piazza. For the second year in a row Piazzia was voted in by the fans this time with 48 votes (around 89%). Piazza's 427 homeruns are the most by any player at the position. He was a 12 time all star and a 10 time silver slugger. Of those who didn't make it, both Roger Clemens & Jeff Bagwell got the closest with 37 votes each(around 69%). Barry Bonds got 35 votes and Curt Schilling got 32. Garret Anderson, Brad Ausmus, Luis Castillo, David Eckstein, Troy Glaus, Mark Gruzielanek, Mike Hampton, Jason Kendall, Mike Lowell, Mike Sweeney, Billy Wagner and Randy Winn were named on less than 5% of the ballots (2.7 votes) and should be dropped from future. I may have more to add later but for now, Congratulations to Ken Griffey Jr. & Mike Pizzia and good luck to all the nominees in the real vote tommorrow.
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Post by Some Guy on Jan 5, 2016 19:55:34 GMT -5
If someone could explain why they'd vote for Roger Clemens but not Bonds, that'd be great.
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Post by BRV on Jan 5, 2016 21:20:29 GMT -5
For the second straight year, I have to emphasize that there are way worse voting blocs out there than the BBWAA. We're living proof of it.
EDIT - And as we approach the final hours before the Baseball Hall of Fame's class of 2016 is revealed, with 38 percent of the ballot known, the class right now would be Jeff Bagwell, Ken Griffey Jr., Mike Piazza, and Tim Raines.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 5, 2016 21:21:55 GMT -5
have a feeling this exactly what will happen tomorrow as well.
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Post by Some Guy on Jan 6, 2016 0:31:47 GMT -5
For the second straight year, I have to emphasize that there are way worse voting blocs out there than the BBWAA. We're living proof of it. EDIT - And as we approach the final hours before the Baseball Hall of Fame's class of 2016 is revealed, with 38 percent of the ballot known, the class right now would be Jeff Bagwell, Ken Griffey Jr., Mike Piazza, and Tim Raines. The older pricks won't vote in Bagwell and Piazza, and I doubt they really will recognize Raines either. Expect it to just be Griffey...MAYBE Piazza.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Jan 6, 2016 17:59:54 GMT -5
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Post by stealthamo on Jan 6, 2016 18:05:11 GMT -5
Piazza and Griffey are the inductees this year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 19:52:54 GMT -5
Great to see Ken Griffey Jr. go in. My favorite player of all-time. Good for Piazza too. He finally won the votes over.
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